No to CPEC unless Pakistan Provide Trade Access to India! Ghani

[PakBlood]

It is also worth mentioning that 36.8% of all Afghan imports -the largest share - come from Pakistan, It's going to hurt them more then it is going to hurt us, perhaps Afghanistan is simply tossing itself into an Indian trap, the gap created by blocking trade with us could be replaced by India, thus increasing Indian influence and making the country even less supportive of warm ties with us.

 

[AZ1]

Pakistanis need to learn the art of diplomacy

Don't put all your EGGS into CHINA,s Basket......... You will become their Slaves

Pakistan needs to have strong economic ties with Afghanistan YOU cannot afford to have both Iran & Afghanistan in the INDIA CAMP

India ALREADY HAS Emirates In their camp .

China alone is not enough ..

you people laugh but that is was you second biggest export market AND your exports have fallen by 30% in 3 years.

Iran and uae can not be in one basket either they will fight and us sanctions iran is out.

 

[Musafir117]

Ok then, no problem even if border is blocked from pakistan's side.

I guess there is a proposal from China and Pakistan to extend the CPEC to Afghanistan. why you need to include this country in CPEC if you are not want any trade relations?

Why we need to finish trading with them? If they don’t want so let it be who care! We have another route to access centeral Asia without using Afghan hell routes.

 

[Storm Force]

Iran and uae can not be in one basket either they will fight and us sanctions iran is out.

I am talking about Pakistan.

THIS attitude that china alone is everything is nonsense and dangerous

The more countries you trade with and have diplomatic support with the better.

STARTING WITH AFGHANISTAN.

There is a reason why INDIA threatens diplomatic isolation to pakistan.

India has excellent military and trade relations with many of your neighbours

be it

Qatar
Emirates
Afghanistan
Uzbekistan
Turkmenistan

And of COURSE USA

Pakistan needs to treat Afghans with dignity and has a sovereign state not their personal asset

 

[War Thunder]

why laugh as if CPEC is center of the world?

India is developing its own trade routes.

Actually it is
india is always developing something that never works This time she is developing trade routes

 

[AZ1]

I am talking about Pakistan.

THIS attitude that china alone is everything is nonsense and dangerous

The more countries you trade with and have diplomatic support with the better.

STARTING WITH AFGHANISTAN.

There is a reason why INDIA threatens diplomatic isolation to pakistan.

India has excellent military and trade relations with many of your neighbours

be it

Qatar
Emirates
Afghanistan
Uzbekistan
Turkmenistan

And of COURSE USA

Pakistan needs to treat Afghans with dignity and has a sovereign state not their personal asset

we have beem treating afgham nicely from start until they start speaking garbage. We can not allow india this is what afghan has to realize and they know it. Why afghan insisting including india? We have trade on national interests not of liking disliking. We are ready to trade afghan but without condition not dying.eventually they will.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

If you read Ghani's statement, he is not begging. He is laying his terms for the trade agreement.

Pakistan's trade with Afghanistan went down to 1/3rd in the recent times.

And our econimic gains due to CPEC in that time was insurmountable. A 1/3 down is meaningless for Pakistan due to our current paradigm. Ghani can also take back 5-10 million of his fellow people residing in our country.

 

[Baby Leone]

I am talking about Pakistan.

THIS attitude that china alone is everything is nonsense and dangerous

The more countries you trade with and have diplomatic support with the better.

STARTING WITH AFGHANISTAN.

There is a reason why INDIA threatens diplomatic isolation to pakistan.

India has excellent military and trade relations with many of your neighbours

be it

Qatar
Emirates
Afghanistan
Uzbekistan
Turkmenistan

And of COURSE USA

Pakistan needs to treat Afghans with dignity and has a sovereign state not their personal asset

first learn to make friends in your own neighbors then teach us about your shitty relations with the above mentioned countries
and in the above list of countries which India has "Historic" relations with, except Afghanistan Pakistan have better and historic relations with all above mentioned countries in real sense.

Advise for you and your indians brothers dont watch too much of india tv it will effect your brain and you guys will become a laughing stock more then what your country is now a days. and for you geographical knowledge none of the above country except Afghanistan is direct neighbor of Pakistan

 

[BABA AGHORI]

we have beem treating afgham nicely from start until they start speaking garbage. We can not allow india this is what afghan has to realize and they know it. Why afghan insisting including india? We have trade on national interests not of liking disliking. We are ready to trade afghan but without condition not dying.eventually they will.

It is Pakistan who is putting conditions that it will not allow Afg. to trade with India not the other way around.
. So Afg. just responded. Existing transit agreement is expired. Let us make a new one. With we getting a transit to India.

 

[Falcon26]

1) finish fencing the wall
2) send each & every Afghani back to their country
3) impose economic & political cost on Kabul.

See how fast these rats come around begging for accommodation. Until and unless they know they can bark without any consequences, expect more verbal diarrhea.

A country that barley controls 40% of its territory despite the presence of the biggest militaries in the world has the gall to speak of putting conditions on CPEC & Pakistan’s relations with India. What deluded world do these people live in?

 

[Taimoor Khan]

CPEC stands for "China-Pakistan economic corridor". Where Afghanistan come into this?

What he should have said that Kabul regime wont become part of OBOR, which is the overall project for regional connectivity. Within the frame work of OBOR, CPEC can be used by other regional countries if agreed by Pakistan and China.

Afghanistan can always be circumvented via China for Pakistan access to central Asia. You got world class infrastructure there connecting China with central Asia. who in right frame of mind want to use Afghan soil for regional trade under present and foreseeable circumstances?

Do Afghans actually know what they are talking about?

 

[AZ1]

It is Pakistan who is putting conditions that it will not allow Afg. to trade with India not the other way around.
. So Afg. just responded. Existing transit agreement is expired. Let us make a new one. With we getting a transit to India.

Afghanistan can do trade with alternate route. We will not allow Indian to get benefit using our soil and use that money to send terrorist to Pakistan. Remember KALBUSHAN . Don't cry here and there build your port use them or use air corridor whatever and this is just a start. Now indians are coming to their senses that the need Pakistan for trade to other countries after loosing hope from air corridor and chabahar port.

 

[Storm Force]

CPEC stands for "China-Pakistan economic corridor". Where Afghanistan come into this?

What he should have said that Kabul regime wont become part of OBOR, which is the overall project for regional connectivity. Within the frame work of OBOR, CPEC can be used by other regional countries if agreed by Pakistan and China.

Afghanistan can always be circumvented via China for Pakistan access to central Asia. You got world class infrastructure there connecting China with central Asia. who in right frame of mind want to use Afghan soil for regional trade under present and foreseeable circumstances?

Do Afghans actually know what they are talking about?

You people will learn the hardway unfortunately

You have LOST USA to India

And now you HAVE LOST AFGHANISTAN which was suppose to give you strategic depth.

You people are once again making huge strategic/diplomatic mistakes and then you wonder why the WEST and your neighbours don't support you over INDIA/KASHMIR

 

[AZ1]

You people will learn the hardway unfortunately

You have LOST USA to India

And now you HAVE LOST AFGHANISTAN which was suppose to give you strategic depth.

You people are once again making huge strategic/diplomatic mistakes and then you wonder why the WEST and your neighbours don't support you over INDIA/KASHMIR

Okay then you indians should be happy now? right why crying to give access to Afghanistan to India lol.

 

[Kambojaric]

you people laugh but that is was you second biggest export market AND your exports have fallen by 30% in 3 years.

Pakistani exports have declined in recent years due to an overvalued rupee (PKR), which is entirely due to domestic reasons (in general layman Pakistani mindset a strong valued currency is a sign of economic strength), hence the govt has refused to let the market dictate the rupees value. Afghanistan has nothing to do with this general decline in exports.

*https://wits.worldbank.org/en/Widge...RD-VL/Show/AFG;CHN;ARE;GBR;USA/ChartType/line' >

As for placing all eggs in "one basket", Russia-Pakistan ties are on an upwards trajectory, Iran and Saudi want to join the CPEC project (https://www.dawn.com/news/1311031, https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2017/09/22/saudi-arabia-to-join-cpec-saudi-representative/). Relations with Turkey are great.

The only two countries with whom relations have worsened are the US and Afghanistan. The former is due to wider geopolitical issues that have little to do with Pakistan (US needs India to counter China's rise, which means relations with Pakistan have to be downgraded due to Indo-Pak relations), as for the latter, the Kabul government is using the age old technique of diverting domestic attention away from the governments incompetence by rallying them against a foreign threat. Thus far Afghan officials have not only blamed Pakistan for the worsening security situation in the country, but also Iran and Russia and possibly even China (not 100% on the last one).

Public patience with Afghanistan however is at a record low in Pakistan. Millions have for decades lived in Pakistan, utilized Pakistani state services and received education here, only for Pakistan to receive little to no thanks in return. Hence Afghanistans concerns arouse little empathy let alone sympathy in Pakistan now. At the end of the day Pakistan has the sea and as a consequence the whole world available to it as far as increasing exports in the future are concerned. Chahbahar has meanwhile been under construction for a decade? Even if it becomes operational Afghanistan ultimately loses out as Pakistani ports are much closer to Afghanistan's core. Karachi for example is 400-500km closer to Kabul than Chabahar. On top of this the Karachi route is well developed whereas the Chahbahar route requires transport through the greater Balochistan region (which is affected by militancy and smuggling).