"No Army Ops happened in Myanmar"-Says NSCN(Khaplang)

[shah1398]

Have you read the thread before posting comments

Was replying to what U said.My point was aimed at part of the thread which said
"Myanmar denies Indian Army soldiers killed rebels inside its territory".

 

[kaonalpha]

Meh

 

[cerberus]

Was replying to what U said.My point was aimed at part of the thread which said
"Myanmar denies Indian Army soldiers killed rebels inside its territory".

Base on what FB post which turns out to be false

There is no such post on mynmmar presidential office official FB page

 

[Death Adder]

Indian media spread fake and old pictures of so called hot pursuit.

 

[me_itsme]

Indian media spread fake and old pictures of so called hot pursuit.

Thats Indian media for you. Crappiest media ever.

 

[damiendehorn]

Well lets say that all this is true and india did do surgical strikes into myanmar, question is why for the past five or six decades have they note done such strikes into pakistan or bangladesh when the indian governments have been jumping up and down about camps there?

 

[Screambowl]

Well lets say that all this is true and india did do surgical strikes into myanmar, question is why for the past five or six decades have they note done such strikes into pakistan or bangladesh when the indian governments have been jumping up and down about camps there?

fix six decades ago there was no Bangladesh and when we did strike to support East Pakistanis, now we have Bangladesh.

The surgical strikes were there when Pakistan funded Khalistan and Kashmir separation movement. RAW's CIT-X used to carry out cross border strikes which controlled the Khalistan movement.

after that in 1999 All covert ops were terminated on PM'S order and it's only now in last 1-2 years it looks like it's revived.

 

[damiendehorn]

fix six decades ago there was no Bangladesh and when we did strike to support East Pakistanis, now we have Bangladesh.

The surgical strikes were there when Pakistan funded Khalistan and Kashmir separation movement. RAW's CIT-X used to carry out cross border strikes which controlled the Khalistan movement.

after that in 1999 All covert ops were terminated on PM'S order and it's only now in last 1-2 years it looks like it's revived.

Please show any proof of these surgical strikes that you are talking about, or are you making it up?

 

[Screambowl]

Please show any proof of these surgical strikes that you are talking about, or are you making it up?

Pakistan has the proof, they are trying to prove that Mukti Bahani was supported by India and etc Please ask them

 

[damiendehorn]

Pakistan has the proof, they are trying to prove that Mukti Bahani was supported by India and etc Please ask them

You spoke about surgical indian army operations in pakistan in the 90s. Please provide proof. How come, indian governments have been complaining about ULFA camps in Bangladesh for decades and did nothing about them?

 

[Screambowl]

You spoke about surgical indian army operations in pakistan in the 90s. Please provide proof. How come, indian governments have been complaining about ULFA camps in Bangladesh for decades and did nothing about them?

What about the IB and RAW's snatch operation in Nepal? And from where Yasin Bhatkal (Indian Mujahideen terrorist) was caught?
Then there are the cross-border operations conducted across the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir by Special Forces and Ghatak platoons of infantry units deployed in the area. These cross-border operations are usually tactical in nature, conducted over a few hours with targets selected close to the LoC, to cause short-term damage and send a message to the other side.

* Among the cross-border operations tacitly acknowledged by the government is “Operation All Clear” conducted inside Bhutan in December 2003 to eliminate North Eastern militant groups based in South Bhutan. About 30 militant camps —13 ULFA, 12 NDFB and 5 KLO — were the target of intelligence-based operations which included troops from 3 Corps. The then Army chief, General N C Vij, had announced that 650 militants had been “neutralised” — either killed or captured — during the operations.

* In April-May 1995, following the signing of an MoU for “maintenance of peace and tranquility in border areas”, India and Myanmar (then Burma) conducted a joint military operation, “Operation Golden Bird”. The Indian Army’s 57 Mountain Division blocked a column of around 200 NSCN, ULFA and KLO militants moving through the Myanmar-Mizoram border towards Manipur, after it picked up a consignment of weapons on the Bangladesh coast near Cox’s Bazar.

- See more at: Myanmar strike: Not the first time Army conducted cross-border operations | The Indian Express

 

[damiendehorn]

What about the IB and RAW's snatch operation in Nepal? And from where Yasin Bhatkal (Indian Mujahideen terrorist) was caught?
Then there are the cross-border operations conducted across the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir by Special Forces and Ghatak platoons of infantry units deployed in the area. These cross-border operations are usually tactical in nature, conducted over a few hours with targets selected close to the LoC, to cause short-term damage and send a message to the other side.

* Among the cross-border operations tacitly acknowledged by the government is “Operation All Clear” conducted inside Bhutan in December 2003 to eliminate North Eastern militant groups based in South Bhutan. About 30 militant camps —13 ULFA, 12 NDFB and 5 KLO — were the target of intelligence-based operations which included troops from 3 Corps. The then Army chief, General N C Vij, had announced that 650 militants had been “neutralised” — either killed or captured — during the operations.

* In April-May 1995, following the signing of an MoU for “maintenance of peace and tranquility in border areas”, India and Myanmar (then Burma) conducted a joint military operation, “Operation Golden Bird”. The Indian Army’s 57 Mountain Division blocked a column of around 200 NSCN, ULFA and KLO militants moving through the Myanmar-Mizoram border towards Manipur, after it picked up a consignment of weapons on the Bangladesh coast near Cox’s Bazar.

- See more at: Myanmar strike: Not the first time Army conducted cross-border operations | The Indian Express

So only actions in bhutan and nepal.....yet you guys were carping on about ULFA camps and traing centres in Bangladesh for decades....why no operations to take them out?

 

[feedermen]

NDTV: Air Strikes or Special Forces: How the Myanmar Attack was Meticulously Planned
All India | Reported by Sudhi Ranjan Sen, Edited by Anindita Sanyal | Updated: June 11, 2015

This photo released to the media by the Indian Army shows the operations inside Myanmar


NEW DELHI: Action within 72 hours - that was what the political leadership had suggested to the Army to liquidate the militant camps across Myanmar. And one of the ways considered to achieve it was the use of Sukhoi and MIG 29 fighter jets, top sources told NDTV.

The first plan had to be dropped because of logistical problems. The second - due to the possibility of huge collateral damage, the sources said.

But action was imperative. Retaliatory strikes had to be taken against militants who ambushed an Army convoy last week killing 18 army men, the heaviest casualty the Army has seen in two decades.

Two militant camps were zeroed on, an officer said. The first one was in Onjha - a few km from Chashad on India-Myanmar border in Manipur - which housed a medley of militants. The more important one was in Ponyu in Myanmar - a few kilometres from the Nagaland border - which housed the militants of NSCN(K), that played a key role in the Manipur attack.

Cancelling a visit to Bangladesh with Prime Minister Narendra Modi, National Security Advisor Ajit Doval headed for Manipur. So did Army chief Dalbir Singh Suhag, who was to visit the UK.

The two men suggested a surgical attack by 21 Para (Special Forces), a top official in the security infrastructure told NDTV.

The 21 Para (Special Forces) which were selected to carry out the strike, are an elite corps. They train at night and are trained for combat firing, reflex shooting, underwater diving, handling of explosives, free falls, para jumping and deprivation exercises - which means doing all this without food and water for long stretches. Their main weapon -- Israeli-made Tavor Rifles.

The strike was planned for Monday but had to be postponed by a day to get clearance from the Prime Minister, sources said.

Meticulous planning several days; the operation lasted around 45 minutes.

A little after midnight on Tuesday, around 80 Special Forces troops were dropped a little ahead of the border by Dhruv helicopters, from where they stealthily made their way through the dense forests of Myanmar to the Ponyu and Ojia camps.

They smashed the camps - which were said to house nearly 150 militants. After the operation, they walked back to the pick-up point, from where they were evacuated by helicopters.

Why India did not keep Myanmar in loop
TNN | Jun 11, 2015, 07.03 AM IST

It was a bold operation by Indian Army to avenge Manipur attack.

NEW DELHI: There's deep distrust of the Myanmar Army in the Indian security establishment when it comes to operations against NSCN(K) because of the Naga rebel group's close ties with the security establishment in Myanmar.

The NSCN(K) is led by S S Khaplang, a Myanmar citizen who operates mostly from the Taga region of that country. A couple of years ago, the insurgent group signed a ceasefire agreement with the Myanmar army.

The agreement provides NSCN(K) a significant amount of free movement within Myanmar and into India through the porous border. What adds further to suspicion of the Myanmar army is that insurgent groups, now operating under the NSCN(K) umbrella, have been providing "protection" money to Myanmar military's middle and lower functionaries. Several militant groups such as Paresh Barua's ULFA(I), Kamtapur Liberation Organization and NDFB have also been operating under Khaplang's overall guidance. These groups pay "protection" money to the Myanmar Army for facilitating free movement across the border.

"It is not so much the NSCN(K) but other groups that have been paying the Myanmar Army. The relationship is very cosy," a senior source said explaining why Indian agencies are wary of the Myanmar army. This also explains why India did not alert Myanmar before carrying out the hot pursuit of terrorists who had killed 18 soldiers at Chandel last week. "Information could have leaked. The fallout of any such leak could've been disastrous," he explained.

One reason why a few dozen Indian soldiers could go up to 5km into Myanmar, and carry out the operations without a single casualty is seen as a huge achievement by army sources. "It was only possible because of the complete secrecy," one of them said.

 

[Dazzler]

Its getting funny, so much embarrassment for the Indian political establishment these days from so many corners that I couldn't even count. Congress were way better ..

 

[Screambowl]

So only actions in bhutan and nepal.....yet you guys were carping on about ULFA camps and traing centres in Bangladesh for decades....why no operations to take them out?

Bangladesh is a route and access point