News from Bangladesh-Updates and Discussion

[leonblack08]

Its not the discussion about the role of fighters which you alluding to. It was and is the FACT that Awami league bought something just to deceive people of their defense commitment. You are so desperately trying to mask Awami wrong doing with gibberish.

R-77 or R27, these missile were bought by later government NOT by Awami one. Show us the proof otherwise.

And no one compared two types of aircraft. it was facts regarding purchasing. Don’t caught up with indian habit of twisting statement.

Pity my Bro...
When these Defence equipments are bought they are usually for a period of time and within which the supplier provides everything and Govt. pays the suppliers during this time,in case you don't know.

The first batch of 8 migs were brought at 1999 and second were scheduled for 2001.In between there was a change of govt. and the duty fell on BNP govt. to pay the rest of the money.
BNP stopped paying Russia when they found some equipments were undergraded,which is good for BNP's part.But again started paying them after discussions between both parties.

you see when the F-7 BGs were flying from China to BD,they were not carrying any missiles but eventually they got their missiles.

Now one thing I forgot to mention,The best frigate in BD navy was brought during AL period.This frigate type is said to the most modern frigate of its class in the region according to the Bangladesh Navy.Now it is commissioned as BNS Khalid Bin Walid.

In 1994-95, the then government, in principal, decided to purchase a naval frigate for Bangladesh Navy, but it did not mature due to indecision. In the following year (1995-96), a decision was taken. According to schedule, the frigate was to be received on June 18, 2001.The frigate was first commissioned on June 20 in 2001 as BNS Bangabandhu in Bangladesh Navy.

May be BNP purchased in quantity,16 F-7s compared to 8 migs,but look at the quality.

If AL had not bought anything during their tenure then you could have said AL does not want strong army.But they did buy things,so we can't blame them.

 

[leonblack08]

A sacred statement for your type to be enlightened. Muslim rulers had lost Spanish, Mughal and Ottoman Empires PRIMERILY because of their niceness/etiquette in the first place. And Jamaati's present down fall are no different from theirs. Now tell me where is Jamati signature on it since you are claiming JAMAATI GOVERNMENT is mine. I can tell you for sure though why BNP, JI had to comply with WAR PARTY's demand. Remember how Mush gave in by one phone threat of either you were with us or them? BNP's hybrid top brass wasn't any different in uplifting their imans either at that context. Was JAMAATIS involve in it, I doubted it although their guilt in association with BNP was questionable in Muslim BNP's suicidal through secular nationalist's hands?

Sometimes good flavor gets tasteless when it is not an usual one like Roosevelt once said that Nicaragua was his SOB, so he was acceptable but Saddam wasn’t to his post-decissors because his was a differnt breed.

Please don't compare Jamatis with Moors or Turks,they are too HIGH CLASS for Jamat.

 

[Raquib]

Pity my Bro...
When these Defence equipments are bought they are usually for a period of time and within which the supplier provides everything and Govt. pays the suppliers during this time,in case you don't know.

The first batch of 8 migs were brought at 1999 and second were scheduled for 2001.In between there was a change of govt. and the duty fell on BNP govt. to pay the rest of the money.
BNP stopped paying Russia when they found some equipments were undergraded,which is good for BNP's part.But again started paying them after discussions between both parties.

you see when the F-7 BGs were flying from China to BD,they were not carrying any missiles but eventually they got their missiles.

Now one thing I forgot to mention,The best frigate in BD navy was brought during AL period.This frigate type is said to the most modern frigate of its class in the region according to the Bangladesh Navy.Now it is commissioned as BNS Khalid Bin Walid.

In 1994-95, the then government, in principal, decided to purchase a naval frigate for Bangladesh Navy, but it did not mature due to indecision. In the following year (1995-96), a decision was taken. According to schedule, the frigate was to be received on June 18, 2001.The frigate was first commissioned on June 20 in 2001 as BNS Bangabandhu in Bangladesh Navy.

May be BNP purchased in quantity,16 F-7s compared to 8 migs,but look at the quality.

If AL had not bought anything during their tenure then you could have said AL does not want strong army.But they did buy things,so we can't blame them.

agree dude...

 

[idune]

I heard Hasina on the television that, her govt would form "South Asian Task Force" which would be dealling with the terrorist organization across the South Asia region...whats your oppinion regarding this matter???

That is the framework under which Bangladesh intelligence (DGFI, NSI, RAB etc), defense forces and defense policy will be controlled by India. “South Asian Taskforce” is just ambiguity skin that will be created to establish indian control over other weaker states in south Asia. Policy dictate will come from Delhi offcourse in name of cooperation Awami league govt will sell out vital element of our independence.

I do not think Pakistan will participate in such indian scheme.

In first press conf Hasina gave, one Chinese journalist asked about what would Hasina govt do to deep cooperation set by pervious govt. She was visibly uneasy and did not answer the question. This should provide clue where she is going to take us.

 

[leonblack08]

A potent Toyota Camry Camry is better than engine less Mercedes, wouldn't you agree? Our Mig-29s were already used when those were purchased and were grounded for years. It was BNP GOVT that re-negotiated the deal and made them flyable. Now, let me tell you one thing, every defence purchase has to be detailed out unlike what BDMILITARY (AKA amcc AKA Roh Afza AKA Gripen59 AK 50 other false names according to Maruf of BDSDF) tells others. Having said that I want to ask what are the serial numbers of R-73, R-77 etc? Furthermore, our Migs aren't even close to a position to make them SMT standard. Then how are they BVR capable? What Asique tells us are outright lie and exaggeration, which infect don't serve us but make us fools and who is he deceiving, anyway? By any standard F-7 BGs are very good in point defence. IND retrofitted 125 of its old Mig-21s with ISROs avionics, electronics whilest ours came with better condition initially than Indians. Infect F-7BGs were celebrated as poor man's F-16s. So, discounting them as vintage isn't rational IMHO.

Can YOU give me a serial number for the Migs??NO
Does this mean there are no Migs in the country??It is simply beyond our reach.Don't you know in the web sites of BD army,navy and air force there are no details of arms we have??does this mean we don't have any??
How do you know our Migs can't be upgraded to SMT??Any link please.

Infect F-7BGs were celebrated as poor man's F-16s. So, discounting them as vintage isn't rational IMHO.

Did I say F-7s are junk??Go read my posts if you have any doubt.
But you can't compare them to Migs.Both play different roles and both are important to BAF.

 

[M_Saint]

You are totally unaware of things around.

We have only 9 thousand troops in UN missions.It is good for them because they are getting money,new equipment which are not included in Army budget and last and most important of all,they are gaining experience.
If you don't have the capabilities to understand these matters then refrain from commenting on these matters.

Yes, we have around 9000 troops which is actually 2nd in numbers and I infect meet the 'Cream of the Crops' of that lot. What you don't understand here is that they have become the SWALLOEST OPPORTUNISTS, TRAITOROUS BASTARDS, SOLD OUT MONEY MAKERS and the WORST MO FOS of all in our Sub-continent. For their greed for $200.00 millions, BD has lost more than $10.00 billions in last 2 years (Loss of GDP by 2 points, Stagnation of FDIs are the most destructing things in that regard). If they hadn't got sold out for money then the out going illegal entity wouldn't have lasted in power for 1 day. The General bastards and their cohorts are the ones, who have sold their hearts to INDIAN HEGEMONISTIC causes like their predecessors who had eaten in PAK barracks and had fought for IND. Their deep rooted doctrinarians are from Bengali nationalism which infect had been given birth to break PAK up. But these H.S.C passed morons don't even know where their heads and tails are although they pretend to be enlightened. The most worrying factor is that they have been pointing guns to our own people and hunting patriotic politicians by INDO, ISROs instruction Is that a good trade off for $200 million? But these idiots don't even realize that IND doesn't even want them to exist and scheming to cease their institution has already started.

That's why I vehemently oppose any PAK MIL's help toward these traitors since all of the material, logistical supports would help IND and enemies of mankind.

 

[leonblack08]

That is the framework under which Bangladesh intelligence (DGFI, NSI, RAB etc), defense forces and defense policy will be controlled by India. “South Asian Taskforce” is just ambiguity skin that will be created to establish indian control over other weaker states in south Asia. Policy dictate will come from Delhi offcourse in name of cooperation Awami league govt will sell out vital element of our independence.

I do not think Pakistan will participate in such indian scheme.

In first press conf Hasina gave, one Chinese journalist asked about what would Hasina govt do to deep cooperation set by pervious govt. She was visibly uneasy and did not answer the question. This should provide clue where she is going to take us.

Oh you are twisting things man!!I have seen what she said.The Chinese lady's English was difficult to pick by me although my ears are fine Alhamdulillah.She has problem with her ears due to grenade attacks.
She said she wants friendship with China and wants China to invest in BD.
What's wrong in it???

I have doubt over the TASK force though.I think it will not work.

 

[leonblack08]

Yes, we have around 9000 troops which is actually 2nd in numbers and I infect meet the 'Cream of the Crops' of that lot. What you don't understand here is that they have become the SWALLOEST OPPORTUNISTS, TRAITOROUS BASTARDS, SOLD OUT MONEY MAKERS and the WORST MO FOS of all in our Sub-continent. For their greed for $200.00 millions, BD has lost more than $10.00 billions in last 2 years (Loss of GDP by 2 points, Stagnation of FDIs are the most destructing things in that regard). If they hadn't got sold out for money then the out going illegal entity wouldn't have lasted in power for 1 day. The General bastards and their cohorts are the ones, who have sold their hearts to INDIAN HEGEMONISTIC causes like their predecessors who had eaten in PAK barracks and had fought for IND. Their deep rooted doctrinarians are from Bengali nationalism which infect had been given birth to break PAK up. But these H.S.C passed morons don't even know where their heads and tails are although they pretend to be enlightened. The most worrying factor is that they have been pointing guns to our own people and hunting patriotic politicians by INDO, ISROs instruction Is that a good trade off for $200 million? But these idiots don't even realize that IND doesn't even want them to exist and scheming to cease their institution has already started.

That's why I vehemently oppose any PAK MIL's help toward them since all of the material, logistical supports would help IND and enemies of mankind.

Please give a link when you make any claim.How do you know we lost 10 billion or lost 2% GDP because of army??

I understand you people are pissed at the army because you think they helped AL.But don't you think you are spoiling the image of your own army in this process??
Think logically because many outsider will read your posts and they will create a negative impression about BD army in their minds.

 

[leonblack08]

Looks like we have couple of Bangla n!gger-loving moderators. Deleting posts that are calling out these traitorous bastards is frowned upon I guess.

If we had nukes back then in 71, I'm sure we would have made the region a quiet peaceful and highly radiated neighborhood. This election reflects what everyone always knew, Bangla's are of inferior stock and still attached to their cow worshiping cousins.

You are sick...go to bed boy.

 

[Raquib]

Oh you are twisting things man!!I have seen what she said.The Chinese lady's English was difficult to pick by me although my ears are fine Alhamdulillah.She has problem with her ears due to grenade attacks.
She said she wants friendship with China and wants China to invest in BD.
What's wrong in it???

I have doubt over the TASK force though.I think it will not work.

I dont want any Indian interference in Bangladesh...thats it...and I believe all the Bangladeshi people do the same thing...it will just **** up equanimity if Awami Leage embarks upon working under India...

Long Live Bangladesh...

 

[Raquib]

Looks like we have couple of Bangla n!gger-loving moderators. Deleting posts that are calling out these traitorous bastards is frowned upon I guess.

If we had nukes back then in 71, I'm sure we would have made the region a quiet peaceful and highly radiated neighborhood. This election reflects what everyone always knew, Bangla's are of inferior stock and still attached to their cow worshiping cousins.

how'd you get a PC in a mental hospital...which is connected to the INTERNET too!!!

 

[leonblack08]

how'd you get a PC in a mental hospital...which is connected to the INTERNET too!!!

may be he escaped...

 

[Raquib]

may be he escaped...

 

[leonblack08]

Election was transparent, credible: EU observers


European Union Election Observation Mission (EUEOM) today said the December 29 election was transparent and credible which marked an important step towards re-establishing democratic governance in the country.

At a press conference at Dhaka Sheraton Hotel this afternoon, EU mission chief Graf Lambsdorff said professionalism, transparency and credibility were the hallmarks of the elections.

On BNP Chairperson Khaleda Zia's claim that the election result does not reflect people's will, Lambsdorff said the result was accurate and they found no instance of fraud in the election process and vote counting.

BNP had earlier alleged irregularities in 220 polling centers in 72 constituencies.

Lambsdorff said, "There can be some irregularities in some centres and that should be investigated. But the number out of around 35,000 of polling centres where irregularities alleged is very small and it will not affect the results of the election."

The EUEOM also assessed that the elections was held in a remarkably peaceful environment.

The EU mission also hailed the roles of the caretaker government and the Election Commission.

"There were no instance of bias to any party by the caretaker government, Election Commission also deserved high marks and it is well deserved for preparing the voter list, printing ballot papers in a very short period of time, the performance of the presiding officers and vote counting," he said.

Replying to a question whether the parliament could be made effective with little representation of the opposition as BNP got only 29 seats, the EUEOM chief said still the parliament could be made effective and for that only political will is needed.

"Deputy speaker and parliamentary committees' chairmen can come from the opposition party," he said.

The EUEOM's preliminary report shows instances of intimidation in 2.8 percent polling centers observed.

According to the report, the political parties conducted their election campaigns in an open and free environment and the media enjoyed a free environment over the election.

The Daily Star - Details News

 

[Durran3]

Hey Congratulations to Bangladesh on winning a very important election.

I don't know why alot of Pakistani's on these boards are hostile towards Bangladesh. I am happy the Jamaat lost and they should be banned EVERYWHERE even in Paksitan they cause nothing but problems.... look at what they did in NWFP.

I believe in Freedom of Speech but i don't believe in a thing like a RELIGIOUS PARTY. I hate Religious clergy as a governing body. Jamaat parties are for weak minded people who can't think for themselves and are looking towards complete totalitarianism. Anyways.. the only way to root out corruption is to have a stable national assembly that remains consistent over time because it flushes out the bad and brings in the good. Its a long process that may take years and even decades but there has to be a place to START.

Good luck Bangladesh and a happy new year to everyone on the Board.