New political part..PTI nazriyati or reimagined Pakistan?

[Zibago]

i mean establishment launched him that is fine, new party or part of pmln doesnot matter.....his reputation everybody knows... him and aleem khan weere one of the worse things in pti.....Glad we got rid of these! Launch him a hundred times with everything that you got , its not going to matter!

And all of that over some RUDA plots

IJI 3.0

PDM was IJI 2.0


I was saying the same the other day.
Time to raise the bar. Even if it's another defunct qualification like B.A.


No but it will divide the vote. as @Zhukov said. That's the game plan.

These new parties will slice the vote of pmln

 

[SD 10]

And all of that over some RUDA plots


These new parties will slice the vote of pmln

yups same happened with Tlp, it was launched to counter Pti and yet all the hardcore tlp supporter i see daily in central punjab are from Pmln!!!! Its an own goal

 

[JackTheRipper]

Its Fate will be like Pak Sarzameen Party (PSP)

Pak Sarzameen Party - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://www.bolnews.com/2023/03/27/photos/politics/jahangir-tareen-group-reactivates-in-politics-of-country/index.html/3361231

 

[JackTheRipper]

Plenty of MNAs and MPAs will leave PTI, what people need to understand is certain electables, horses will never go against the establishment because politics is a career for them, they want to make millions from it and not have do or die moto like IK. All they need is another clean party to join.

Why call the party Haqeeqi Pakistan Tehreek e Insaaf or Tehreek e Insaaf Nazraiati. Why not come up with their own name. Copy party will fail.

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JKT group mulls forming PTI Nazriyati to contest polls

LAHORE: Members of the Jahangir Khan Tareen’s Group have proposed the creation of a new political party, called Pakistan Tehreek Insaf Nazriyati or Haqeeqi Tehreek e Insaaf, to participate...

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PTI is in its existence due to Imran Khan,
If IK is no more PTI fate will be like PSP or PML Q

Highly Chances Tehreek e Insaaf Nazraiati like mission will be failed.
Because IK is becoming more and more popular.

People consider Tareen, Aleem groups are bad eggs.

 

[POPEYE-Sailor]

YA ALLAH aeee mare Parwadegar Pakistan k sarry sisat dano ko aur estblishment ky firono ko mout de dea aur IK ko kimyab ata farma.

 

[Edevelop]

Tbh, it’s already not a clean party. I remember how Mustafa Khokar punched that poor old man at the hotel. Miftah ismael is only semi competent. The others have a stench of corruption around them that actually was a liability for PTI- Tareen and Aleem Khan, so good riddance. It’s already a failed project.

The only party that I could partially see challenge PTI would be JI. But the people at the helm would have to be JI people. Not this Tareen, Aleem Khan, PMLN, PPP faces that are frankly a liability for a PTI type party.

I don't know about JI. Like PTI they can only gather people on the streets. They didn't win even during Zia's helm and regardless they are unfit to rule. We need educated experts in relevant ministries who know how to manage and run our economy which is of utmost importance.

You fujetuaaas, you fools , this is not 80 era , 90% PTI supporters are well educated and well informed , log tumary munh par thapad marain gay aor khan ko la kar he chorain ga inshallah

90% of PTI supporters are made up of overseas Pakistanis, elites of defence housing societies and some lower middle class folks who are paid to attend live rallies or propagate online. Their only genuine support is in KPK which unlike Punjab, will not need to hire politicians from other parties.

PTI is in its existence due to Imran Khan,
If IK is no more PTI fate will be like PSP or PML Q

Highly Chances Tehreek e Insaaf Nazraiati like mission will be failed.
Because IK is becoming more and more popular.

People consider Tareen, Aleem groups are bad eggs.

It is absolutely a one man party and at age 73 IK is currently one of the oldest political leaders out there who is losing time to rule. Other than that rest of the PTI is made up of tried and tested PML-Q politicians such as Sheikh Rasheed, Pervez Elahi, Ijaz ul Haq, Aleem Khan, JKT, Fawad Chaudhary, etc which will meet its fate like the PML-Q we saw after Musharraf left. As for Shah Mehmood, he is a rat who will jump back on PPP bandwagon when opportunity presents.

 

[HAIDER]

Establishment brain child ...

 

[Jango]

And this party's symbol is going to be exactly like a bat, and their canidate's name will be right below the PTI candidate, with the 'Nazariyati' part of the name either shortened, hidden, or obscured in some way.

 

[ziaulislam]

PTI - Tareen Group
PTI - Elahi Group
PTI - Khattak Group

These 3 groups have come forward for reconciliation and to be given access back into the country's political fold.

No NRO shall be given to any of the PTI groups.

"Also PTI Ayesha gullaie fan"
and
"PTI maryum safdar fan"

You forgot about these

I don't know about JI. Like PTI they can only gather people on the streets. They didn't win even during Zia's helm and regardless they are unfit to rule. We need educated experts in relevant ministries who know how to manage and run our economy which is of utmost importance.

90% of PTI supporters are made up of overseas Pakistanis, elites of defence housing societies and some lower middle class folks who are paid to attend live rallies or propagate online. Their only genuine support is in KPK which unlike Punjab, will not need to hire politicians from other parties.

It is absolutely a one man party and at age 73 IK is currently one of the oldest political leaders out there who is losing time to rule. Other than that rest of the PTI is made up of tried and tested PML-Q politicians such as Sheikh Rasheed, Pervez Elahi, Ijaz ul Haq, Aleem Khan, JKT, Fawad Chaudhary, etc which will meet its fate like the PML-Q we saw after Musharraf left. As for Shah Mehmood, he is a rat who will jump back on PPP bandwagon when opportunity presents.

Damn why doesn't any one pay me.
Can you link me up with some PTI Punjab members so I can make some money to attend relies etc

 

[undercover JIX]

If anyone remember, Sheikh Rasheed after his arrest said that, they asked him to lead anew PTI ( May be nazriyati) but he refused.

So finally they found someone desperate, and game continues....

 

[Menace2Society]

Same corrupt sellout faces

 

[Jango]

90% of PTI supporters are made up of overseas Pakistanis, elites of defence housing societies and some lower middle class folks who are paid to attend live rallies or propagate online. Their only genuine support is in KPK which unlike Punjab, will not need to hire politicians from other parties.

Canada kay pani main koi chlorine kay ilawa bhi koi chemical hota hai?

First it was only a fan club, then it became a social media party, then a burger party, then an upper middle class party, magr mausoof abhi bhi 2016 main hi atkay huay hain with the defence housing societies and elite narrative. Janab 2023 agaya hai, wake up.

Yehi masla hai hamari establishment ka bhi, aur bakion ka bhi. They still thought PTI was that party. Now even PTI's own critics admit PTI is not that burger party anymore. There was a clip of Mazhar Javed I saw a couple of days ago, listen to him:

My village has around 350-400 people, mostly farmers and uneducated including my own family. No one paid them, but bar about 50 all are PTI. Same is the case with the adjoining villages.

My family has around 40-50 people (closer family). They are educated, and they post online and express their views. Kabhi aik rupya nhn mila. Yeh paisay jdhr say miltay hain mujhay bhi bata do, never hurts to have another income stream

See the following pictures from Mar 25:

Are you seeing the diversity in class here?

As I often say, burying your head in the sand doesn't mean the world doesn't exist.

 

[Maula Jatt]

90% of PTI supporters are made up of overseas Pakistanis, elites of defence housing societies and some lower middle class folks who are paid to attend live rallies or propagate online. Their only genuine support is in KPK which unlike Punjab, will not need to hire politicians from other parties.

Aye vhoti Changi gal kiti aye Veerey, phull support
Teh fer kadon election karaane de payen o? Election ton kyon phach deyo?

 

[Edevelop]

Canada kay pani main koi chlorine kay ilawa bhi koi chemical hota hai?

First it was only a fan club, then it became a social media party, then a burger party, then an upper middle class party, magr mausoof abhi bhi 2016 main hi atkay huay hain with the defence housing societies and elite narrative. Janab 2023 agaya hai, wake up.

Yehi masla hai hamari establishment ka bhi, aur bakion ka bhi. They still thought PTI was that party. Now even PTI's own critics admit PTI is not that burger party anymore. There was a clip of Mazhar Javed I saw a couple of days ago, listen to him:

My village has around 350-400 people, mostly farmers and uneducated including my own family. No one paid them, but bar about 50 all are PTI. Same is the case with the adjoining villages.

My family has around 40-50 people (closer family). They are educated, and they post online and express their views. Kabhi aik rupya nhn mila. Yeh paisay jdhr say miltay hain mujhay bhi bata do, never hurts to have another income stream

See the following pictures from Mar 25:

Are you seeing the diversity in class here?

As I often say, burying your head in the sand doesn't mean the world doesn't exist.

First of all, if you are a moderator, you are suppose to be impartial. Your hypocrisy shows when every now and then you people ban fools nightmare and his only fault is he posts threads exposing PTI's true colours. I'll wait for the day you do the same to ghazi42 and countless other members who spend half a day every day doing propaganda. Secondly, indulging in personal attack particularly of where I live shows your level of upbringing. I will not comment anything further.

Now coming back to topic:

Jamaat e Islami and other religious parties are very good in bringing people on the streets. Has that ever translated into votes in general elections?????? Nope....

These pictures mean nothing definitive. It could mean:

1. Permanent residents and employees happen to be there due to a densely populated area. Just because cameras caught them doesn't necessarily mean they are supporters. This is a valee kom who likes to watch a show.

2 People who want free food which is common amongst lower classes

3. People who want entertainment in the form of music and dance usually common amongst upper classes. And oh for girls it's common to get harassed there.

4. Genuine supporters but not necessarily natives of the city or town where the protest is happening

5. Paid people. Not saying it's likely but cannot be ruled out. We saw Tahir ul Qadri's people getting paid in the past and PTI was their partner in crime.

Aye vhoti Changi gal kiti aye Veerey, phull support
Teh fer kadon election karaane de payen o? Election ton kyon phach deyo?

Election jadon ve hovay menu kee. Meh tay circus vekriyan. I support no one. Pakistan's problems are its people who must realize jahalat is the biggest issue and it is what they should be fighting against.

 

[Jango]

First of all, if you are a moderator, you are suppose to be impartial.

I am supposed to be impartial in my moderation, not in my political or social views.

Your hypocrisy shows when every now and then you people ban fools nightmare and his only fault is he posts threads exposing PTI's true colours. I'll wait for the day you do the same to ghazi42 and countless other members who spend half a day every day doing propaganda. Secondly, indulging in personal attack particularly of where I live shows your level of upbringing. I will not comment anything further.

@Norwegian, perhaps the most pro-PTI person on this forum is perma banned, or I think it's for a year, not sure. Same with a few others. Anyone can make a million posts on the forum, if they are from a proper source, and are not pointless oneliners or trolling. So please, let us do the moderation.

Now coming back to topic:

Jamaat e Islami and other religious parties are very good in bringing people on the streets. Has that ever translated into votes in general elections?????? Nope....

And how does JI exactly figure into this whole conversation?

These pictures mean nothing definitive. It could mean:

1. Permanent residents and employees happen to be there due to a densely populated area. Just because cameras caught them doesn't necessarily mean they are supporters. This is a valee kom who likes to watch a show.

Yes, people with PTI flags draped all over and and caps aren't PTI followers. Log wele thay, is liay containers say guzar kar lakh banda akatha ho gaya raat kay 2 bajay keechar walay ground main. Sadqay jaoon.

2 People who want free food which is common amongst lower classes

Jalson par kaunsa free food milta hai PTI kay? Lakh banday ko ab PTI khana day gi at Minar-e-Pakistan? Give me one picture or video from any source that food was given on 25 March. I have been to a few jalsas myself, never seen a single deg being given.

3. People who want to entertainment in the form of music and dance usually common amongst upper classes. And oh for girls it's common to get harassed there.

Oh and here comes the misogynistic views. I wonder why am I even arguing with you if this is the best rebuttal you can come up with. Should have known better. After all, an apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Jeez man, did you honestly say this? People come to PTI jalsas for this?

Upper class kay paas aur bauhaut behtar jagayen hain janay kay liay agr nachna hi ho.