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New China-Pakistan Axis Undermines U.S. in Afghanistan, Strengthens Uighur Persecution
A previously unreported intelligence arrangement between Beijing and Islamabad reveals increasingly potent influence in Afghanistan and elsewhere in the region.


By Paul D. Shinkman, Senior Writer, National Security Aug. 6, 2020, at 12:10 p.m.






CHINA AND PAKISTAN HAVE begun an unprecedented intelligence-sharing arrangement in an attempt to secure Beijing's influence in Afghanistan at the expense of the American government, U.S. News has learned.
The new relationship is the culmination of a series of previously unreported moves, designed to help China exploit its economic investments in Afghanistan while also stifling outcry over its persecution of the Uighur minority Muslim population near China's western border with Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The timing of the new relationship has become deeply consequential as President Donald Trump intensifies his designs to withdraw U.S. forces from Afghanistan after 20 years of war. It has created new concerns among American intelligence officials, who believe China will capitalize on ongoing problems in the administration's effort to secure a peace deal with the Taliban and that Beijing will further expand its influence into other contested parts of the region.

"The reality is now dawning within the intelligence community," says a source familiar with a U.S. assessment who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "We are now leaving Afghanistan, but who are we leaving it to?"

In a seemingly unprecedented move, China has granted the Pakistani Defense Ministry access to one of the most secretive gatherings within its military infrastructure as a show of good faith. Little is known about the Joint Staff Department within China's elite Central Military Commission, including who attends, but access has historically been limited only to senior Chinese leaders. However, as a part of Beijing's realization it needs Pakistan's experience in neighboring Afghanistan as well as Islamabad's connections to the insurgent groups operating there who will determine the war-torn country's fate, it has invited a Pakistani general to sit in on its highly restricted meetings as an observer.

Working together, China and Pakistan have secured pledges from Taliban leaders not to provide safe haven or support to their fellow Muslim Uighurs from neighboring western China who have become a central concern of Beijing's. The arrangement far exceeds any accommodation the Afghan insurgent network has ever afforded the U.S. with regard to Washington's concerns about al-Qaida presence in Afghanistan.

These revelations are a part of a new U.S. intelligence assessment detailed for U.S. News with wide-reaching implications, including granting China a strategic – and deadly – advantage in other regional aspirations, principally its ongoing border dispute with India, Pakistan's chief rival.

Trump Signs Bill Pressuring China Over Uighur Muslim Crackdown ]
Neither the Pakistani nor the Chinese governments responded to requests for comment about the arrangement or how it could affect future relations with the U.S.


Current U.S. government officials and analysts who spoke with U.S. News described how closely Pakistan fits into China's ambitions for its southern and western border regions, and that shifting priorities in Beijing necessitate more cooperation than before with a limited number of outside countries.

"If the Chinese are bringing Pakistan more 'behind the curtain,' in terms of intelligence and military cooperation, it will be tailored to their common interests like confronting India over territorial disputes," says Vikram Singh, a former top official at the Pentagon for South and Southeast Asian affairs, now senior adviser at the U.S. Institute of Peace's Asia Center. "Pakistan's leadership has really backed China on Uighur internment, even though Pakistanis are upset by the repression of Muslims in Xinjiang."

And the idea of new intelligence sharing is not unprecedented. The New York Times reported earlier this month that China and Iran created a new military and economic pact, to include new forms of collaboration on intelligence.

Though Pakistan's alliance with China is not new, the latest developments represent a dramatic escalation of the partnership in recent years. And they follow tensions with the Obama and Trump administrations that spiked in 2018 when long-standing American concerns tumbled into public view, centering on Islamabad's support for the same terrorist networks that the U.S. was trying to defeat in neighboring Afghanistan. Pakistan at the time pledged to cease intelligence sharing with the U.S., and Washington said it would cut off hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Pakistan.

At that time, Chinese President Xi Jinping felt mounting pressure regarding the economic investments China had made in Afghanistan in prior years – principally in mineral wealth costing billions of dollars but left largely inaccessible due to the ongoing violence there. Beijing also faced surging condemnation globally for its attempts to clamp down on the Uighurs, native to the part of Xinjiang province in western China that Beijing considers a threat to its unilateral control of the vast nation.

Uighur extremists have previously looked to the Taliban in Afghanistan as a potential source of support for an insurgent campaign against Beijing. China's latest moves have all but ensured that will not take place. And they follow other military adventures there – Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, told a small group of reporters in December shortly after visiting the region that China has deployed a battalion of troops across its border into a narrow sliver of land connecting to Afghanistan's extreme northeast as a part of an experiment in working with local forces to determine if future direct partnerships are possible.

Relations between the U.S. and Pakistan have marginally improved in recent years, not in the least due to Islamabad's participation in U.S.-led negotiations with the Taliban over a shaky peace deal. However, U.S. intelligence now assesses that Pakistan believes it can manipulate its relationship with the Americans in a way it cannot with its gargantuan northern neighbor.

Indeed, China's partnership with Pakistan is not limited to enticing it into cooperation. Beijing has also gained significant economic leverage over Pakistan through its Belt and Road Initiative, including projects to create new transportation networks through the country to its southerly coast, known as the Chinese-Pakistan Economic Corridor, which Beijing sorely needs to maintain shipping access to its economic interests in and around the Indian Ocean.

Trump’s Consideration of Afghanistan Withdrawal Spurs Criticism ]
China also benefits from Pakistan's insights on other regional concerns. U.S. intelligence officials noticed that Chinese forces had a greater understanding than before into Indian troop positions and movements ahead of the deadly border clash on June 15. The officials believe Pakistan's military leadership likely shared their intelligence assessments of the Indian army's disposition with their Chinese counterparts. This comes as China has used its influential position within the U.N. to support Pakistan's claims on the contested region of Kashmir amid new forcefulness from India.


The arrangement appears to have also worked in muzzling Pakistan over China's more provocative actions in recent months. Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan has shown particular discipline in not criticizing China about its treatment of the Uighurs – a notable achievement in that Pakistan is a principally Muslim nation. The U.S. assessment reflects a belief that his silence serves as a critical component of Beijing's attempts to appear legitimate in its treatment of that ethnic sect.

In response to a detailed question last year about his silence, Khan hinted at a new understanding with Beijing.

"With the Chinese, we have a special relationship. And – it's the way China functions – any issues like these we talk to them privately, we don't make public statements, because that's how China is," Khan said during an event organized by the Council on Foreign Relations in September.

Khan referenced the series of bailouts China afforded his country shortly after he became prime minister amid an economic crisis in 2018.

"China came to help when we were right at the rock bottom," he said.

May marked the 69th anniversary of Pakistan and China's formal diplomatic ties. A spokesman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry described the occasion to say the relationship remains "firm as a rock."


Paul D. Shinkman, Senior Writer, National Security
 
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This should not be a surprise to anybody, especially the US, who should treat Pakistan as China’s ally in South Asia.

As for Afghanistan, a nest of vipers, China and Pakistan can have it.
 
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One way or another, this will have an impact on the Turkish-Pakistani relationship.
 
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New China-Pakistan Axis Undermines U.S. in Afghanistan, Strengthens Uighur Persecution
A previously unreported intelligence arrangement between Beijing and Islamabad reveals increasingly potent influence in Afghanistan and elsewhere in the region.


By Paul D. Shinkman, Senior Writer, National Security Aug. 6, 2020, at 12:10 p.m.






CHINA AND PAKISTAN HAVE begun an unprecedented intelligence-sharing arrangement in an attempt to secure Beijing's influence in Afghanistan at the expense of the American government, U.S. News has learned.
The new relationship is the culmination of a series of previously unreported moves, designed to help China exploit its economic investments in Afghanistan while also stifling outcry over its persecution of the Uighur minority Muslim population near China's western border with Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The timing of the new relationship has become deeply consequential as President Donald Trump intensifies his designs to withdraw U.S. forces from Afghanistan after 20 years of war. It has created new concerns among American intelligence officials, who believe China will capitalize on ongoing problems in the administration's effort to secure a peace deal with the Taliban and that Beijing will further expand its influence into other contested parts of the region.

"The reality is now dawning within the intelligence community," says a source familiar with a U.S. assessment who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "We are now leaving Afghanistan, but who are we leaving it to?"

In a seemingly unprecedented move, China has granted the Pakistani Defense Ministry access to one of the most secretive gatherings within its military infrastructure as a show of good faith. Little is known about the Joint Staff Department within China's elite Central Military Commission, including who attends, but access has historically been limited only to senior Chinese leaders. However, as a part of Beijing's realization it needs Pakistan's experience in neighboring Afghanistan as well as Islamabad's connections to the insurgent groups operating there who will determine the war-torn country's fate, it has invited a Pakistani general to sit in on its highly restricted meetings as an observer.

Working together, China and Pakistan have secured pledges from Taliban leaders not to provide safe haven or support to their fellow Muslim Uighurs from neighboring western China who have become a central concern of Beijing's. The arrangement far exceeds any accommodation the Afghan insurgent network has ever afforded the U.S. with regard to Washington's concerns about al-Qaida presence in Afghanistan.

These revelations are a part of a new U.S. intelligence assessment detailed for U.S. News with wide-reaching implications, including granting China a strategic – and deadly – advantage in other regional aspirations, principally its ongoing border dispute with India, Pakistan's chief rival.

Trump Signs Bill Pressuring China Over Uighur Muslim Crackdown ]
Neither the Pakistani nor the Chinese governments responded to requests for comment about the arrangement or how it could affect future relations with the U.S.


Current U.S. government officials and analysts who spoke with U.S. News described how closely Pakistan fits into China's ambitions for its southern and western border regions, and that shifting priorities in Beijing necessitate more cooperation than before with a limited number of outside countries.

"If the Chinese are bringing Pakistan more 'behind the curtain,' in terms of intelligence and military cooperation, it will be tailored to their common interests like confronting India over territorial disputes," says Vikram Singh, a former top official at the Pentagon for South and Southeast Asian affairs, now senior adviser at the U.S. Institute of Peace's Asia Center. "Pakistan's leadership has really backed China on Uighur internment, even though Pakistanis are upset by the repression of Muslims in Xinjiang."

And the idea of new intelligence sharing is not unprecedented. The New York Times reported earlier this month that China and Iran created a new military and economic pact, to include new forms of collaboration on intelligence.

Though Pakistan's alliance with China is not new, the latest developments represent a dramatic escalation of the partnership in recent years. And they follow tensions with the Obama and Trump administrations that spiked in 2018 when long-standing American concerns tumbled into public view, centering on Islamabad's support for the same terrorist networks that the U.S. was trying to defeat in neighboring Afghanistan. Pakistan at the time pledged to cease intelligence sharing with the U.S., and Washington said it would cut off hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Pakistan.

At that time, Chinese President Xi Jinping felt mounting pressure regarding the economic investments China had made in Afghanistan in prior years – principally in mineral wealth costing billions of dollars but left largely inaccessible due to the ongoing violence there. Beijing also faced surging condemnation globally for its attempts to clamp down on the Uighurs, native to the part of Xinjiang province in western China that Beijing considers a threat to its unilateral control of the vast nation.

Uighur extremists have previously looked to the Taliban in Afghanistan as a potential source of support for an insurgent campaign against Beijing. China's latest moves have all but ensured that will not take place. And they follow other military adventures there – Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, told a small group of reporters in December shortly after visiting the region that China has deployed a battalion of troops across its border into a narrow sliver of land connecting to Afghanistan's extreme northeast as a part of an experiment in working with local forces to determine if future direct partnerships are possible.

Relations between the U.S. and Pakistan have marginally improved in recent years, not in the least due to Islamabad's participation in U.S.-led negotiations with the Taliban over a shaky peace deal. However, U.S. intelligence now assesses that Pakistan believes it can manipulate its relationship with the Americans in a way it cannot with its gargantuan northern neighbor.

Indeed, China's partnership with Pakistan is not limited to enticing it into cooperation. Beijing has also gained significant economic leverage over Pakistan through its Belt and Road Initiative, including projects to create new transportation networks through the country to its southerly coast, known as the Chinese-Pakistan Economic Corridor, which Beijing sorely needs to maintain shipping access to its economic interests in and around the Indian Ocean.

Trump’s Consideration of Afghanistan Withdrawal Spurs Criticism ]
China also benefits from Pakistan's insights on other regional concerns. U.S. intelligence officials noticed that Chinese forces had a greater understanding than before into Indian troop positions and movements ahead of the deadly border clash on June 15. The officials believe Pakistan's military leadership likely shared their intelligence assessments of the Indian army's disposition with their Chinese counterparts. This comes as China has used its influential position within the U.N. to support Pakistan's claims on the contested region of Kashmir amid new forcefulness from India.


The arrangement appears to have also worked in muzzling Pakistan over China's more provocative actions in recent months. Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan has shown particular discipline in not criticizing China about its treatment of the Uighurs – a notable achievement in that Pakistan is a principally Muslim nation. The U.S. assessment reflects a belief that his silence serves as a critical component of Beijing's attempts to appear legitimate in its treatment of that ethnic sect.

In response to a detailed question last year about his silence, Khan hinted at a new understanding with Beijing.

"With the Chinese, we have a special relationship. And – it's the way China functions – any issues like these we talk to them privately, we don't make public statements, because that's how China is," Khan said during an event organized by the Council on Foreign Relations in September.

Khan referenced the series of bailouts China afforded his country shortly after he became prime minister amid an economic crisis in 2018.

"China came to help when we were right at the rock bottom," he said.

May marked the 69th anniversary of Pakistan and China's formal diplomatic ties. A spokesman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry described the occasion to say the relationship remains "firm as a rock."


Paul D. Shinkman, Senior Writer, National Security
I guess US maybe planning regime change for Pakistan.
 
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From friendship to strategic relationships ship.


Pakistan has everything to gain from this partnership. US can cry a river if they wish. Pakistan has been really proactive in recent years. The war on terror opened eyes of Pakistan establishment when the enemies were hellbent to wipe out Pakistan, denuclearise the country.


Pakistan is stronger than ever, this strength mainly comes from stability within Pakistan. As economy picks up Pakistan will become even stronger and vocal.
 
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Could you kindly elaborate on that statement?

There'll never be any kind of open hostility between the two countries and this whole issue won't undermine even a single defense-related project between Turkey and Pakistan but you can see changing dynamics already.

The 'special bond' between Turkey and Pakistan is fading away and slowly turning into a 'work relationship' due to the fact that the Pakistani government(s) has/ve surrendered the country to China's mercy. Pakistan has effectively become a vassal state of Beijing. I mean, Turkey - a NATO member - has more freedoms to act the way she wants than Pakistan being in a golden prison built by the Chinese.

Up until now, Pakistan did a successful job balancing between Turkish interests in East Turkistan and China's genocidal policies. However, you can see that the IK government is prioritizing China's position, thus, crossing a small border which they usually refused to do so.

This process isn't set in stone, though. It can change.

From my perspective, Pakistan is putting all of her eggs in one basket and this is a factually wrong foreign policy. They get closer to China in an environment where more and more nations become hostile towards Beijing and start questioning them.

Time will show.
 
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US media claims and there you go... it doesn't work like that. Exiting US/NATO is well aware what's happening and how that is being done and why. Perhaps, just of few grieving parties that been utilizing Afghanistan land for their own ambitions; now trying badly & manipulating such things so that Trump/NATO will not leave. US itself is not the beneficiary of any situation if it stays but you can calculate as who is going to benefit from Afghanistan in presence of US as compare to her exit.

The so-called claimant forgot that Afghanistan peace talks have been happening in presence of China, Pakistan & Russia so the parties he tried to address, are already aware. These Intelligence sharing aren't new but the one in sorrow has to say otherwise and try harder to stop the peace deal.
 
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Salaam


There'll never be any kind of open hostility between the two countries and this whole issue won't undermine even a single defense-related project between Turkey and Pakistan but you can see changing dynamics already.

The 'special bond' between Turkey and Pakistan is fading away and slowly turning into a 'work relationship' due to the fact that the Pakistani government(s) has/ve surrendered the country to China's mercy. Pakistan has effectively become a vassal state of Beijing. I mean, Turkey - a NATO member - has more freedoms to act the way she wants than Pakistan being in a golden prison built by the Chinese.

Up until now, Pakistan did a successful job balancing between Turkish interests in East Turkistan and China's genocidal policies. However, you can see that the IK government is prioritizing China's position, thus, crossing a small border which they usually refused to do so.

This process isn't set in stone, though. It can change.

From my perspective, Pakistan is putting all of her eggs in one basket and this is a factually wrong foreign policy. They get closer to China in an environment where more and more nations become hostile towards Beijing and start questioning them.

Time will show.

I think with regards to the biggest concern Pakistan has, Kashmir and the conflict with India, it has started to become clear that there is only one reasonable basket in which Pakistan can put it's eggs in; China.

Others can give a diplomatic support but at the end of the day no one can, at the moment, come close to what the Chinese can provide on this issue. Concrete financial, Diplomatic and military (even if by supplying equipment and hardware) support.

It goes without saying that this is simply because of the convergence of interests of both China and Pakistan.

Pakistan would've struggled hard to deal with an increasingly aggressive US supported India on its own. With China entering the field the dynamics have changed considerably.


With regards to Turkey, Pakistan wouldn't go against any core interests of Turkey and I think the Turks understand that. Kashmir and the conflict with India is an existential issue for Pakistan and it would be foolish of Pakistan to not approach the matter in a pragmatic way.

The relationship between Pakistan and Turkey has a lot of potential for not just the two but the Muslim world as well and, I think, both countries realize that fact.
 
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"We are now leaving Afghanistan, but who are we leaving it to?"
... to whomever can stabilize the country.

For the love of trillions of dollars wasted, a decade of war and conflict, hundreds of thousands killed in Afghanistan ... stop obsessing about this goddamn US 'loss of influence' and welcome any arrangement that can bring peace and stability to Afghanistan and the region.
 
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One way or another, this will have an impact on the Turkish-Pakistani relationship.

Do not underestimate the relationship between Pakistan and Turkey,
China is a very close ally and a dear friend,

Turkey is our blood brother, always take the long view, never short term.
For it is in the long term where we end up, always on the side of our family,
stay blessed brother.
 
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US tried to blame us for all the ills of their own policies. Bush used to listen to the point of view of Musharraf and things were getting on well most of the time. Obama decided to side-lined and antagonize us and introduced India to the Afghanistan equation. Now it hurts India to find herself isolated and Indian author for the article is crying like a baby and looking for sympathy. Like before US left Osama on top of the mountain deserted and discarded after using him and we got the same fruit for our endeavours for US war on terror and security. After deserting us, now what US was expecting from us to be eaten alive by beasts sitting their own our own?? Our neighbour and friend came to our help and pointed to the road which was safe for us. At least we have got some some respect for a country who betrayed us countless times that we are letting US get out of Afghanistan still tails attached to their backsides.
 
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There'll never be any kind of open hostility between the two countries and this whole issue won't undermine even a single defense-related project between Turkey and Pakistan but you can see changing dynamics already.

The 'special bond' between Turkey and Pakistan is fading away and slowly turning into a 'work relationship' due to the fact that the Pakistani government(s) has/ve surrendered the country to China's mercy. Pakistan has effectively become a vassal state of Beijing. I mean, Turkey - a NATO member - has more freedoms to act the way she wants than Pakistan being in a golden prison built by the Chinese.

Up until now, Pakistan did a successful job balancing between Turkish interests in East Turkistan and China's genocidal policies. However, you can see that the IK government is prioritizing China's position, thus, crossing a small border which they usually refused to do so.

This process isn't set in stone, though. It can change.

From my perspective, Pakistan is putting all of her eggs in one basket and this is a factually wrong foreign policy. They get closer to China in an environment where more and more nations become hostile towards Beijing and start questioning them.

Time will show.
Your analysis is based on a completely flawed assumption - that Pakistan is just accepting Chinese diktat under Chinese pressure.

Pakistan is deliberately pursuing policies to secure her national interests and national security in Afghanistan and the region. To that end there are extremely limited options open to Pakistan. The US and her allied Western nations, in courting India to counter China, have essentially closed the door on any kind of broad based strategic relationship with Pakistan. The GCC Arabs and Pakistan have been drifting apart, especially since Pakistan refused to join them in their half-baked, poorly thought out war in Yemen.

Pakistan, surrounded as it is by a conflict ridden Afghanistan that claims half of her territory and is the source of much of the terrorism in Pakistan, and an expansionist India governed by a rabid, hate-mongering and ideologically extremist regime, has almost no other choices in terms of cooperation and collaboration with a global power to offset the challenges it faces.

Comparisons to Turkey's current status and aggressive foreign policy are misplaced and incorrect. Turkey similarly, in the past, rode the coattails of the West, building bridges with Israel and 'compromising on just causes' while it built up its economy, industry, military and defence sectors. Turkey's current status of pursuing independent and aggressive foreign policies is a result of those compromises made decades earlier. And please don't misunderstand me - I do not begrudge Turkey for making those compromises. Turkey did what it had to do to get stronger similar to what Pakistan is doing now. Pakistan’s misfortune is that we wasted decades under corrupt and short-sighted rulers. Imran Khan is the only democratically elected leader that genuinely has the desire and vision to build Pakistan up, and he and Pakistan will need time to change the direction of the country and build up its economy and industry and enable it to stand independently.

So with all due respect, Turks should not be criticizing Pakistan for leaning on China, because at the current moment Pakistan has no other options, and Pakistan's national interests and national security should be the primary factor driving Pakistani policy. If you have suggestions for alternatives, please feel free to provide them
 
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