What's new

Nawaz's 16 foreign visits in 15 months cost 3 million dollars

WishLivePak

SENIOR MEMBER
Joined
May 24, 2014
Messages
4,424
Reaction score
-4
Country
Pakistan
Location
Canada
PM’s foreign visits in 15 months cost exchequer Rs294 million - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Pretty cheap for a head of state. That's about $200,000 per trip or 2 crore rupees. But there's more, the trip to the UN cost nearly a million dollar. So in essence, now 15 trips cost around $133,000.

Now I know all the potians are going to come in here and say "look this dude flying on tax payers money! let's kick him out of power! screw democrazy, bring martial law and raheel sharif as president!"

But sorry to burst your bubble, but the costs are not Nawaz's alone. His private plane is filled with other members, be it family or cabinet. There has to be security arrangements. Same goes for Raheel sheriff. He recently ordered a 30 million dollars VVIP private jet for the armed forces. He took his wife to London in it. There were other army officers too. Even if Imran is in power, the security team will have to go to Afghanistan, intelligence officers etc. Many things come into play in background that isn't shared. All we know is the cost. And that cost is much lower than some other foreign leaders, such as Briton's, India's and so forth. Flying economy class is not an economically solution due to security checks and so forth. Also, imagine if the prime minister has to work and there are kids crying or bunch of people asking for autographs or angry potians who want to grab Nawaz by his collar.

With all that said, we can compare Nawaz's visit to UN that cost 1 million dollar and his visit to US that cost $350,000. In the UN's visit, he was there from 23-29 whereas in the US, he was there from 20-23. So daily security cost, vehicle rental and etc is bound to increase. However, in the UN's visit, he was there for 6 days unlike 3 days later. So the total cost should've been $700,000. It is not known (may additional cabinet members flew etc) why $300,000 extra cost the nations taxpayers.

Nawaz's regional visit cost some 10-50k dollars. Example, Nawaz's day long visit to Afghanistan cost $10,000. PIA's ticket may cost some $300-$500. With security arrangements, other people flying with him, $10,000 is a low amount.

Again, potians be like "oh look this guy defending Nawaz." Point is, be it Nawaz, Imran (who also travels private jet and lives lavishly) or Raheel (who ordered $30 million jet and took his wife with him), these are all common things. No matter who replaces these guys, these things are bound to happen.

The only thing we can argue about is, Nawaz shouldn't fly on state's money because he's billionare and Imran khan can fly on tax payers money because he's not billionare.

Finally, this is the beauty of democracy no matter how much you abuse it. If it was some dictator, he'd never share the costs. But thanks to democracy do we have many liberties such as this.


Some of the costs of visit to US, as example:

Consulate members or ambassadors will fly or arrive to where PM is heading.
PM will bring cabinet member or family member along.
There will be security team also arriving, perhaps before and during.
Hotel for PM and security teams as well as cabinet member or family.
Bullet proof car rental.


Above is just to name a few. The cost from national yearly budget is 0.01%. 3 million from 33 billion
 
Last edited:
. . . . .
16 in 15?month:hitwall: all fruitless for Pakistan:hitwall:
How can you say they were all fruitless?

When one pursues a trip, business or whatever, they're not 100% sure it'll be successful. There is no gurantee. You have to go, meet in person to see.

So it is 30 Crore PNR. Not too much I think.
Yeah, even if it was a million dollar, PTI mcult members will still complain. Nothing satisifies them.

If it was $0, then they'd say this is publicity stunt.
 
.
How much investment into Pakistan has these visit resulted in ?
 
.
no surpise even in PPP government party head of PMLN was mostly abroad . !6 business trips in such 2 years is not a big deal . As the wealth statement of PMLN shows in past their industry grows 5 times in each tenure in power. He is working hard for it
 
. . .
Is there something in this world called a 'free trip' if Nawaz who is the prime minister and holder of foreign ministry should not do foreign visits then who should ? Do we die in hatred with one another and let India take advantage of our mistakes ? Do we want India to loose tensions with our allies while we sit and watch ?
 
. .
But sorry to burst your bubble, but the costs are not Nawaz's alone. His private plane is filled with other members, be it family or cabinet. There has to be security arrangements. Same goes for Raheel sheriff.

Let me burst your bubble first. I know the protocol more then you my friend. Once ""someone briefly"" (Double quote) telling how PM nawaz sharif and Zardari spending money on protocols. He was also a chief manager of Ch.Iftikar in Karachi when Ch.Ift took Sou-moto action on Karachi situation 3 years ago. He and his team which include security also engaged with current and previous regimes.

PM Nawaz Sharif using Pakistan flight carrier many times. PIA flight to UK cancelled as Nawaz Sharif takes a 300 seat Boeing 777 to Ankara for 3 days and because of that PIA lost huge $$$. On every trip Ganja bring his children with tax payer money and completely "violate the law". His children and sometime his relative travel with him and once ""again double quoted"" PM relative was stopped by the security when PM going for some meeting with "some" countries top brass because they children and relative are not allowed and the counterpart question PM why your relatives are here.....

Each and every visit must have some outcomes. There is ZERO outcome of all visit in past 2 years of PM Pakistan. On the other side again Burst your bubble, Raheel Sharif (Invited by US JCOS Gen. Martin Dempse) he was a guest and all the $$ expsense on his travel to US was the responsibility of US State dept not Raheel Sharif. His trip was extended due to Kerry, Centcom Chief and other high officials of US top brass.

Royal (UK) Visit was also "Invitation". The $$ spending on Gen Raheel Sharif was allocated (between) GHQ budget in which most of the that trip money never used for foreign trips and added in next budget.

Again burst your bubble - "Before passing non-sense statements do some research and if you fail to get any powerful argument, don't post your ****** comments everytime in every thread.

When a country struggling especially financially, their asshole PMs Presiz try to save money and decrease their trips. They try to bring investment when they are on foreign trips unlike Pakistan where not a single nation giving any respect to illegal mandate PM and his tola who is just spending tax payer money and from past 2 years ZERO investment or no buddy give a shit to such shitty so called democracy and engage CHIEF of that country because they know who has the power and right credibility for discuss geopolitical matters.
 
Last edited:
.
Let me burst your bubble first. I know the protocol more then you my friend. Once ""someone briefly"" (Double quote) telling how PM nawaz sharif and Zardari spending money on protocols. He was also a chief manager of Ch.Iftikar in Karachi when Ch.Ift took Sou-moto action on Karachi situation 3 years ago. He and his team which include security also engaged with current and previous regimes.

PM Nawaz Sharif using Pakistan flight carrier many times. PIA flight to UK cancelled as Nawaz Sharif takes a 300 seat Boeing 777 to Ankara for 3 days and because of that PIA lost huge $$$. On every trip Ganja bring his children with tax payer money and completely "violate the law". His children and sometime his relative travel with him and once ""again double quoted"" PM relative was stopped by the security when PM going for some meeting with "some" countries top brass because they children and relative are not allowed and the counterpart question PM why your relatives are here.....

Each and every visit must have some outcomes. There is ZERO outcome of all visit in past 2 years of PM Pakistan. On the other side again Burst your bubble, Raheel Sharif (Invited by US JCOS Gen. Martin Dempse) he was a guest and all the $$ expsense on his travel to US was the responsibility of US State dept not Raheel Sharif. His trip was extended due to Kerry, Centcom Chief and other high officials of US top brass.

Royal (UK) Visit was also "Invitation". The $$ spending on Gen Raheel Sharif was allocated (between) GHQ budget in which most of the that trip money never used for foreign trips and added in next budget.

Again burst your bubble - "Before passing non-sense statements do some research and if you fail to get any powerful argument, don't post your ****** comments everytime in every thread.

When a country struggling especially financially, their asshole PMs Presiz try to save money and decrease their trips. They try to bring investment when they are on foreign trips unlike Pakistan where not a single nation giving any respect to illegal mandate PM and his tola who is just spending tax payer money and from past 2 years ZERO investment or no buddy give a shit to such shitty so called democracy and engage CHIEF of that country because they know who has the power and right credibility for discuss geopolitical matters.
Lol, someone's mad. I guess I did burst your bubble.

First of all, I in now way came off "hey I know protocol guys, here it is." I just gave my views.

1) So what if Nawaz brings family along? He is head of state. Even Obama takes his family along and kids. Other heads of states also take family along. Even Raheel brought his wife along to UK in a new 30m jet.

2) How many times did Nawaz use the 777? Anyway, in recent times he has used a320, with which I do not agree either. He already has VVIP jet. So yes, he is absolutely wrong to use any of PIA's aircraft. Should rather rent a corporate plane.

3) lol zero outcomes in past 2 years. Every visit does not have an outcome. Many of his visits did have outcome. Such as the one where he met president Obama. Nawaz isn't going to come in front of nation and discuss everything happening in background.

4) Oh you bursting my bubble? Well, if you learn to read, you'll know that you cannot burst it and you burst yours. Did US pay for the 30 million dollar jet? And I was talking about his trip to UK, not US. He took his wife to that visit. Oh and you do agree that that money came from taxpayers. Just trying to sugar coat the criticism saying "but it came from GHQ budget." GHQ gets its budget from tax payers. Invitation or not (After all, Nawaz was also invited numerous times), money came out of tax payers pocket. He could've given that budget to build a school or something instead of must using it or purchasing a new jet.

5) Calling president and prime minister asshole. Explains a lot the sort of language used in your home and what your parents taught you. Good job. You can't even keep yourself down while having an argument. It just looks like you are SO butt hurt, like real mad. I guess I did burst your bubble?

6) Oh God. Your last paragraph. You. Are. So. Mad.

7) The world has accepted mandate and so has Imran. Second, there is much investments coming along. Not every visit is fruitful nor should be considered as such. We don't know what is discussed behind closed doors. It could be security matter, as not every visit is about money. For example, visit to US and Afghanistan on security matters won't be shared with general public word for word.

8) Learn the difference between then and than. Also learn to use periods, commas, otherwise it seems like you're crying so much.
 
.
Explains a lot the sort of language used in your home and what your parents taught you. Good job. You can't even keep yourself down while having an argument. It just looks like you are SO butt hurt, like real mad. I guess I did burst your bubble?

Next time bring parents into your shity comments. I will seriously bring your parents into your every debate and will make you similar to your "Display picture" enuff said!

PS: Investment is VISIBLE widely everywhere in the world LOL @ your logic.
 
.
Back
Top Bottom