Mysterious event between the Indo-Pak clash

[ziaulislam]

Dude get your facts right.
JF17 was always able to shoot AIM 120c.
F-16 is not the only BVR armed fighter. JF-17 Carries the SD-10 which is better than AIM 120.

india could have acquired the missile parts from any of their exercises with any airforce that uses those missiles or just painted over some metal sheet. And not to forget the labeling and serial number of the missile shown by them belongs to the Taiwanese airforce.

Pakistan has shown evidence of what we have blown. india is yet to show any. If they took out an F-16 then why are they claiming the Mig-21 wreckage to be F-16 which is already debunked by their own experts on their own media if you had cared to explore other threads here instead of coming up with a new fantasy of your own.

Why not show satellite images/reccon pod images..that's what makes me wonder ..they easily can

 

[Areesh]

It actually might collbarte Pakistani story of another fighter shotdown lol

Exactly

IAF right now is the only airforce in military aviation history that uses pieces of enemy missiles to prove that they shot down an enemy aircraft

No other airforce has this distinction. Bharatis should be proud

 

[alee92nawaz]

Mysterious event between India and Pakistan. Armed Forces of the both sides hiding the facts from their respective public and i guess with the governments as well.

DG ISPR officially stated that we have shoot down two aircrafts. One wreckage fell inside Pakistan’s territory and another one in IOK side. The aircraft which fell inside the IOK looks like SU30 and in the video, people and Indian Army officers surrounded the wreckage saying “2 pilot hain maray huway” in a clear voice.

DG said, we have TWO PILOTS in which one admitted in CMH. After few hours he said no we have only one pilot. He is a Director general of Pakistan Armed Forces not a keyboard warrior. He never took statements from the internet nor passing unverified information without getting high level briefing. One more thing, he clearly stated “We have never used any F16s”.

Now on the other side, IAF completely silent on Pakistan claim of "SU30MKI" shootdown by Pakistan. But there is another story (event) there in IOK and that was a heli crashed at the same time of engagements btw both sides. One of the father said on the TV “I want revenge from Pakistan”, IAF states that his son died in the crash. If his son died in the crash, why he want revenge from Pakistan then?Is that a mysterious pilot was a SU30 MKI???

Now another story, Today Indian Tri chief have shared the US made BVR missile AIM120 wreckage and claims that IAF shootdown F16 which later fell inside the Pakistan side but we have got the BVR parts. Keep in mins that BVR is only compatible with F16s.

Something is missing between both sides. Govts are not aware of that even.. both Armed forces hiding something very important (might both silently with mutual understanding — securing the credibility of their FRONT LINE Fighters like F16s and SU30MKI).

The PDF shared by someone on this forum carrying a fake typo name (Tiawan instead of Taiwan). Military deals, agreements and documents going through hundred thousands of phases and is that possible the document or agreement or list created in the notepad? oh comeon. Lets aside India narrative here. Is that easy for India to make a fake missile and direction take on head to head against the AMERICAN MADE Military hardware manufacturing with fake information?????

They will **** India if its fake on a serious note, is that we are establishing that PAkistan if not use F16 then WE HAVE MODIFIED JF17 (compatible to fire American missile) this is serious breach of agreement and Pakistan if really did that then going to face some serious sanctions.

Or

Americans want to put some coverup the massive India embarrassment which they are facing across the world, help them with some parts okay go ahead share this shit and stop crying...??? because obviously they dont send the whole F16 wreckage lol

If this is a case then they don't need to show BVR Serial!!!

Now this event will never ever come out in front of the public. Both armed forces hiding some serious facts...

Fishy!!!

People may disagree but something is fishy.

 

[Telescopic Sight]

ISPR said the offensive formation that went into IOK and then shot down bisons consisted of JFT and not f16

This missile might have been fired some other formation of f16 against IAF aircraft

The thing however is how it is a proof that IAF shot down a f16. That's the thing.

It is very odd that iaf did that . Makes no sense to claim missile pieces as proof for a shoot down.

but this means ispr lied non stop about no Vipers being used at all. p

That changes many things , no?

 

[Dark-Destroyer]

Exactly

IAF right now is the only airforce in military aviation history that uses pieces of enemy missiles to prove that they shot down an enemy aircraft

No other airforce has this distinction. Bharatis should be proud

Lol they continue to supersede their behgarti everytime

 

[alee92nawaz]

http://archive.defense.gov/Contracts/Contract.aspx?ContractID=3384

View attachment 543073

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/fact...as-sold-to-taiwan.604789/page-2#post-11225828

Taiwan document is bullshit.

 

[Death Professor]

http://archive.defense.gov/Contracts/Contract.aspx?ContractID=3384

report dated 2006. contracts can be cancelled.

newer report from FY 2009 page 30: serial FA867505C0070 description AMRAAM AIR VEHICLE, FMS, AIM-120C5 Country Taiwan

 

[El Sidd]

report dated 2006. contracts can be cancelled.

newer report from FY 2009 page 30: serial FA867505C0070 description AMRAAM AIR VEHICLE, FMS, AIM-120C5 Country Taiwan

maybe Taiwan has launched Ghazwa e Hind on India.

Quite surprising i would say

 

[MilSpec]

And atlesst we both can agree that BVR is neither a evidence if f16 involved in that op nor an evidence of f16 shotdown

Last time when IAF shot Pakistani jets it showed their remains

Two pilots thing is probably a misunderstanding of one being treated

Well;
I am not here to double down on speculation, as far as F16 being shot down, thats an assertion made by some reputed defence corrospondents like Shiv Aroor and Vishnu Som, so it is a assertion with some credentials, as far as solid proof, if there was concrete evidence of F16 wreckage or other evidence with india it would have or will surface, untill then it remains an assertion.

An Aim120C5 debry with S.No belonging to Pakistani order is the only tangible evidence, it shows that a Aim120C5 was fired now whether it was fired from a F16 or a Suzuki Mehran with a link 16, that is purely for up for readers to argue with, I won't get into that.

The contention on this forum has been that the S.No has been from Taiwan (spelled incorrectly ) from REPORT TO CONGRESS ON SALES OF SIGNIFICANT MILITARY EQUIPMENT TO FOREIGN ENTITIES. from the year 2009, the same report of 2011 states US sold RQ-4 Global Hawk to Pakistan, which we know is not true, and thus I personally will not provide credence to this report.

My post was just to clarify on AIM 120C5 S.No. rest of the hoopla is just entertaining to read.

 

[Areesh]

It is very odd that iaf did that . Makes no sense to claim missile pieces as proof for a shoot down.

but this means ispr lied non stop about no Vipers being used at all. p

That changes many things , no?

Not really. ISPR said that the formation that went into IOK and then bombed it and then shot down bison consisted of JFT.

What if there was another formation that fired amraam at IAF aircraft? ISPR claim would stand true since offensive formation didn't consist of jf17

There is another scenario

IAF provided amraam story "proof" after more than 24 hours of bison getting shot down. What if some other paf f16 formation after ISPR press conference shot a missile at IAF aircraft later in the day?

The thing however is that a piece of missile is no proof that iaf shot down a f16.

Lol they continue to supersede their behgarti everytime

Both IAF and bharatis. Bonded by nationality and baighairti

 

[Dark-Destroyer]

Well;
I am not here to double down on speculation, as far as F16 being shot down, thats an assertion made by some reputed defence corrospondents like Shiv Aroor and Vishnu Som, so it is a assertion with some credentials, as far as solid proof, if there was concrete evidence of F16 wreckage or other evidence with india it would have or will surface, untill then it remains an assertion.

An Aim120C5 debry with S.No belonging to Pakistani order is the only tangible evidence, it shows that a Aim120C5 was fired now whether it was fired from a F16 or a Suzuki Mehran with a link 16, that is purely for up for readers to argue with, I won't get into that.

The contention on this forum has been that the S.No has been from Taiwan (spelled incorrectly ) from REPORT TO CONGRESS ON SALES OF SIGNIFICANT MILITARY EQUIPMENT TO FOREIGN ENTITIES. from the year 2009, the same report of 2011 states US sold RQ-4 Global Hawk to Pakistan, which we know is not true, and thus I personally will not provide credence to this report.

My post was just to clarify on AIM 120C5 S.No. rest of the hoopla is just entertaining to read.

Seems like it could have been fired from a tataaa

 

[Telescopic Sight]

Not really. ISPR said that the formation that went into IOK and then bombed it and then shot down bison consisted of JFT.

The thing however is that a piece of missile is no proof that oaf shot down a f16.

It is no proof,I've agreed with you and others repeatedly.[/QUOTE]

 

[Zee-shaun]

Sir, you are a genious!

 

[HAIDER]

The Indians are in a shock and behaving like headless Chicken, first they said none of their fighters or pilots are missing, then they admitted one and the pilot MIA, despite reports and footage of second IAF crash in IOK, the Indians remained silent on it, instead they are crying to America holding a piece of missile and saying your weapons in Pakistani hands are killing us. The irony is although PAF has AMRAAMs in it's inventory, the missile in Indian possession was purportedly supplied to Taiwan to counter PLAAF.....how can it possibly end in Pakistani hands. Now Indians are admitting the second aircraft with the loss of two pilots was also a MiG-21.
Although there are dual seat MiG-21s but surely would you send a trainer version to intercept PAF aircraft which were allegedly involved in bombing targets in IOK. Thin or damn invisible.

If India is flying migs , then you can imaging the depleting condition of Indian air fleet. It seems it is in very bad shape.

 

[El Sidd]

Sir, you are a genious!

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