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Mysore India's Cleanest City, Bangaluru Cleanest Capital, Filthy Delhi In Bottom 100 #SwachhBharat r

It isn't, but a nation that spends on maintenance of old heritage buildings, would by default be passionate enough about cleanliness.

If you meant old delhi,that place is going nowhere.Many redevelopment plans have been proposed,but the inhabitants will oppose any such plan .
 
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That pic is not Bengaluru, check my previous port in the thread to see the pics .

I was wondering as well. Bengaluru does not have much water around it, but in the pic, you can clearly see a large sea in the background. Don't they check the source of the images before putting them online?
 
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Here is the world list.
Unfortunately thr sub continent is on top including iran
 

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Bangalore is a dump for most part except the central areas. If Bangalore is considered clean shudder to think about the rest of the country.

Exactly! Bangalore, for most part, is anything but clean. Especially with the cleaning crew that goes on strikes for weeks at a time, resulting into buildup of garbage the size of hills.

But cleanliness is a problem for a majority of underdeveloped world. Cleanliness is almost always the last thing on the mind of a hungry person. Give it sometime, educate people, improve awareness/economy/infrastructure and our cities will get cleaner eventually. The Chinese experience gives me hope.

Anyway I like this concept of ranking the cities. This is a start, and will give the city administrators across the country something to aim for.
 
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Exactly! Bangalore, for most part, is anything but clean. Especially with the cleaning crew that goes on strikes for weeks at a time, resulting into buildup of garbage the size of hills.

But cleanliness is a problem for a majority of underdeveloped world. Cleanliness is almost always the last thing on the mind of a hungry person. Give it sometime, educate people, improve awareness/economy/infrastructure and our cities will get cleaner eventually. The Chinese experience gives me hope.

Anyway I like this concept of ranking the cities. This is a start, and will give the city administrators across the country something to aim for.

The problem is lack of pride and not poverty. Many poor countries are far far cleaner. Our education system has singularly failed in instilling any pride in being an Indian or developing a sense of duty towards the nation. If anything, it instills a sense of shame in being an Indian. Much of the apathy which results in garbage strewn around our cities is due to that.
 
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The problem is lack of pride and not poverty. Many poor countries are far far cleaner. Our education system has singularly failed in instilling any pride in being an Indian or developing a sense of duty towards the nation. If anything, it instills a sense of shame in being an Indian. Much of the apathy which results in garbage strewn around our cities is due to that.

I am of the opinion that poverty and hunger, anywhere, doesn't understand pride.

The day you bring people out of poverty and secure them with something more than just a day's worth meal, they will start caring for themselves, their environment and maintain cleanliness/discipline and start feeling proud.

Prosperity, almost always, precedes pride/cleanliness/discipline.

The best illustration is that almost all countries that are clean and well-disciplined today became prosperous first. And conversely, the poorer you get, the less proud/disciplined/clean you get.
 
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I am of the opinion that poverty and hunger, anywhere, doesn't understand pride.

The day you bring people out of poverty and secure them with something more than just a day's worth meal, they will start caring for themselves, their environment and maintain cleanliness/discipline and start feeling proud.

Prosperity, almost always, precedes pride/cleanliness/discipline.

The best illustration is that almost all countries that are clean and well-disciplined today became prosperous first. And conversely, the poorer you get, the less proud/disciplined/clean you get.

Not true really. Industrialized Europe was one of the most polluted places on the planet until environmental consciousness crept in and yes they had the bucks to back it up. Even today USA pollutes a lot more than India does.

All South East Asian countries were cleaner than India even when they were as poor as India. Just look at Sri Lanka. It was never as filthy as India.

Actually, I do not remember India being this dirty a couple of decades ago. There was no plastic anywhere. Much of the garbage generated was wet garbage and everything else was recycled.
 
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I can pretty comprehensively talk about bangalore. Heaps of plastic bags will keep flying on the road sides. Civic services seemed inexistent.
 
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Mysore India's Cleanest City, Bangaluru Cleanest Capital, Filthy Delhi In Bottom 100 #SwachhBharat ranking

Indiatimes
August 9, 2015

The Swachh Bharat rankings released by the Union Urban Development Ministry have changed just how you looked at a lot of Indian cities.

Delhi's downward spiral continues
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You love Delhi for it's forest cover - but the rankings found that things beyond the beautiful tree-lined streets, manicured round-abouts of Lutyen's Delhi, things are filthy, very filthy. While the New Delhi Municipal Area (essentially central Lutyen's Delhi) was 16th cleanest municipality on the list, immediately outside the circle of power things were starkly different. The rest of Delhi ranked 379th on a list of 476 cities. Even the pride of Delhi - the elite Lutyen's zone could only manage a 16th rank.

Mysore is the new hero
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The city of Tipu Sultan and home of the world-famous Dusshera celebrations leads the list of clean cities with minimal open defecation and extensive adoption of solid waste management practices.

Bengaluru - The cleanest capital in India
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Agreed, this one is a little bit of a doozie. Bengaluru's reputation of un-ending traffic jams, overall chaos and IT dominates the conversation in a city with arguably the best weather in India. Bengaluru has emerged as the cleanest capital in India making it a one-two for Karnataka. Karnataka has done exceptionally well with another three cities making it to the list of top 10. West Bengal has also done well with 25 cities and towns from the state finding place in the top 100 cities.

South has taken the cleanliness challenge a lot more seriously than the North
Yup. Southern cities seem to have done better than other parts with 39 of them finding place in the top 100, followed by 27 from the eastern part, 15 from the western, 12 from the northern India. Seven cities from Northeastern states have also made to the list.

Delhi Vs Mumbai
The city of chaos, traffic jams and the sea Mumbai has beaten Delhi the city of wide-open roads. Greater Mumbai actually stands way above the capital, 147th in the list (Delhi is 379th), and Navi Mumbai ranks an impressive No 3.

Chandigarh which was the cleanest city on the rankings in 2014 has now slipped to rank 21.

Cleanest 10

1. Mysore

2. Thiruchirapalli (Tamil Nadu)

3. Navi Mumbai

4. Kochi (Kerala)

5. Hassan (Karnataka)

6. Mandya (Karnataka)

7. Bengaluru (Karnataka)

8. Thiruvananthapuram (Kerala)

9. Halisahar (West Bengal)

10. Gangtok (Sikkim)

Filthiest 10 (from the filthiest to the least filthy)
1. Damoh (MP)

2. Bhind (MP)

3. Palwal (Haryana)

4. Bhiwani (Haryana)

5. Chittorgarh (Rajasthan)

6. Bulandshahar (UP)

7. Neemuch (MP)

8. Rewari (Haryana)

9. Hindaun (Rajasthan)

10. Sambalpur (Odisha)

How the ranking is decided
The ranking used three methodologies - primary data from the municipal bodies, field inspection and ground interaction with people. The survey also assessed the status of disposal of sewage from septik tanks, waste water treatment, drinking water quality, surface quality of water bodies, and mortality due to water-borne diseases.

Mysore India's Cleanest City, Bangaluru Cleanest Capital, Filthy Delhi In Bottom 100 #SwachhBharat ranking
wow...4 out of top 10 is from Karnataka? Impressed.

Btw...Mysore was as filthy as any other Indian cities only a few years ago. But the transformation was quite quick & impressive. Have been there quite so often both before & after. Can be a model for any other cities in Iindia. Apparently lot of credit goes to Shobha Karandlaje. Don't really know if there's any merit to that argument.
 
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Not true really. Industrialized Europe was one of the most polluted places on the planet until environmental consciousness crept in and yes they had the bucks to back it up. Even today USA pollutes a lot more than India does.

Well, I guess we could agree to disagree but there are tons of examples to the contrary. The 18th Century cities like Paris, London or even very recently China, were dumps literally 'plagued' by plague and perhaps were worse than some of the Indian cities today.

I think even the environmental consciousness grew only after the Europeans/Americans attained a certain level of prosperity. That is certainly TRUE for Chinese at least. The pollution in American cities went down drastically only at the turn of last century when they started gaining prosperity.

The pollution caused by USA today is not the same as the dirt/uncleanliness we are talking about here. Their pollution is mostly caused by far-off coal-fired power plants and their automobiles for which there doesn't seem to be any other alternative.

All South East Asian countries were cleaner than India even when they were as poor as India. Just look at Sri Lanka. It was never as filthy as India.

I don't think SE Asian countries and Sri Lanka are good examples since there are other overriding factors like the sense of 'fight for survival' against much powerful neighbors (think imperial Japan/China) and they equated their pride to their own survival. And I don't even know for sure if those countries was ever uniformly as poor as India has been.

Actually, I do not remember India being this dirty a couple of decades ago. There was no plastic anywhere. Much of the garbage generated was wet garbage and everything else was recycled.

That is because there was no plastic in use in India, mate. And India had a lot less population to contend with, in the cities. The villages, as I recall, were dirty back then too. Perhaps the population has exasperated the situation a lot more.

But if you go long back again in time when India was not as poor, India wasn't as filthy as well.

China (with similar population levels, pollution and filth as India) best illustrates how prosperity translates to clean cities.
 
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