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ISLAMABAD - A five-member US Congressional delegation held a secret meeting with former President Pervez Musharraf on Wednesday at his Chak Shahzad sub-jail residence, reliable sources confirmed to The Nation.

Led by Senator Joe Donnelly, the delegation included Senators Heidi Heitkamp, Tammy Baldwin and Chris Murphy, and Congressman Peter Welch. US Ambassador to Pakistan Richard Olson also accompanied them. They discussed with Musharraf the current status of his trail and its impact on his party and country’s political situation.
The former dictator reportedly told the US legislators that he did not want to leave the country as a deserter but with dignity and honour. He told them that he, being an Army commando, was not afraid of cases against him but he wanted justice from the investigators and the higher courts.
This meeting is significant as some media reports say that the military establishment as well as the present caretaker government wanted a safe and dignified passage for the former military ruler to leave the country. But Musharraf’s close aides insist that he won’t leave the country without settling the cases against him.
Sources also said that Musharraf told the US legislators that he did not trust the courts because the lawyers’ community and judges seek to take revenge from him because of his past actions against the judiciary. He also complained that his close associates too were in hot waters these days and facing fake cases from the lawyers’ community.
When contacted, Islamabad Deputy Commissioner Aamir Saeed said that he was unaware of this meeting and that “no permission was issued by my office to this affect”. Despite repeated attempts, Islamabad chief commissioner could not be reached on phone for confirmation of the news. US embassy spokesperson was also not available to comment.
Musharraf, who returned from exile in March to hoping for a political comeback has been entangled in a number of cases, the most serious one being the treason trial. The latest blow to his ambitions came when on Tuesday the Peshawar High Court handed him the lifetime ban from contesting elections.
The same day Army Chief Gen Ashfaq Kayani, in a speech at army headquarters marking Martyr’s Day, hinted that he was unhappy with the detention of the retired general. In a veiled reference to the legal troubles dogging Musharraf, who has been placed under and over treason-related charges, he said: “In my opinion, it is not merely retribution, but awareness and participation of the masses that can truly end this game of hide-and-seek between democracy and dictatorship.”
Staff Reporters add: Before concluding their three-day visit, the congressional team met with Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, Defence Secretary Lt-Gen (r) Asif Yaseen Malik, Foreign Secretary Jalil Abbas Jilani, Election Commission Secretary Ishtiak Ahmad Khan and representatives of civil society and discussed the current status of bilateral relations, forthcoming elections in Pakistan and regional issues, including the situation in Afghanistan.
The delegation expressed the hope that consolidation of democracy in Pakistan would further deepen bilateral relations between Pakistan and the United States. They noted that May 11 elections will mark a historic democratic transition, and reaffirmed the US commitment to build a bilateral partnership with the government elected by the voters.
During the meeting at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Foreign Secretary Jalil Abbas Jilani underscored the importance of Pakistan’s traditional relationship with the US and apprised the legislators about various facets of this relationship, particularly the people to people contacts and their benefit. He appreciated the US support for growth of democracy in Pakistan. He also briefed the US side on recent developments with regard to peace and stability in Afghanistan.
The congressional delegation acknowledged the importance of Pak-US relationship in the current international environment and reiterated support to the development of democracy and democratic institutions in Pakistan. The US side also took note of Pakistan’s efforts for regional peace and prosperity.
On their visit to the Ministry of Defence, the US delegation was briefed on important issues relating to bilateral ties, particularly those related to cooperation in war against militancy and terrorism. The US congressmen expressed satisfaction over Pakistan’s efforts, role and support in the war against terror.
Later, a meeting held between Senator Donelly and Defence Secretary Asif Yasin focused on regional security matters. Donnelly observed that there was a rapid improvement in Pak-US ties in the post-Salala incident and the relationship was on an improved trajectory. The improvement in the relations can be seen by visible increase in cooperation and restoration of ground lines, the senator noted.

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he won’t leave the country without settling the cases against him

Infact he is a great leader ...............

why would he need to leave the country if he 'settles' the cases against him. By settling did you mean doing secret deal with judiciary and some political parties?
 
Nonsense. He didn't return to Pakistan to go into exile. He should be allowed to contest elections.

You can't bar someone from contesting elections based on mere allegations otherwise every other politician has been maligned with allegations and investigations are pending against them.
 
American delegation meeting him confirms he is an American puppet and working for their interest, his famous slogan, "Pakistan first" was just an eye wash. should be hanged for toppling an elected government, suspending constitution, suspending chief justice, supporting terrorists to spread anarchy in Karachi on may 11 for attempting to kill suspended chief justice. His dead body can be sent to his American masters for burial in a gora grave yard, that is if they accept traitors bodies.


If he has forgotten, this is what that American delegation thought of him, when he was in power.

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Nonsense. He didn't return to Pakistan to go into exile. He should be allowed to contest elections.

You can't bar someone from contesting elections based on mere allegations otherwise every other politician has been maligned with allegations and investigations are pending against them.


He is not going to be allowed to contest Jack - even his defense -- So we must move past and a opportunity may present itself at a later date -- What matters now are the cases - Treason is off the table - but that does not mean it will continue to stay off the table, lal Masjid and he Bugti case are secondary to the case of the Judges - the CJP and his family may well walk on water - but it is clear that Justice in Pakistan has a particularly political tinge to it.

So to my thinking, lets leave the election stuff aside for the time being - The Kiyani suggestion that politics of retribution be avoided will fall on deaf ears, so the focus should be on his defense and on a speedy basis
 
Nonsense. He didn't return to Pakistan to go into exile. He should be allowed to contest elections.

You can't bar someone from contesting elections based on mere allegations otherwise every other politician has been maligned with allegations and investigations are pending against them.


Unfortunately for him, allegations are claims against someone that are yet to be proven.
But in Musharraf's case, the entire country is witness to what he and the SC did to the consitution.

Now he wants to run from this country with the same "Grace" as he displayed in running from the court.

He was allowed to gracefully exit Pakistan last time, but this time the judges are not willing to let go of their personal grudge.
 
Well, at first I am skeptical at the authenticity of this news and it is based on 'sources'. I wont be surprised if tomorrow there is a denial of it. But suppose its true, then my response is same as one of the posters on the news link has posted:-

If people in Pakistan cannot stop this judiciary which is running amok and stop the CJP who should be called CJT (chief judicial terrorist) who is always foaming at the mouth then some one else should. I approve of American involvement because the people gunning for Musharraf are pro Taliban terrorists . The judges sitting on the Superior Court benches are not judges but revenge seeking pygmies who have no business to be judges . Imagine most of these judges including the CJT supported the take over by Musharraf and gave him a mandate to amend the constitution. These guys took oath under the PCO and now they are trying to condemn Musharraf . If Musharraf is guilty then these guys are doubly guilty of Treason and should be hanged before anything happens to Musharraf.
 
he should face trial of suspending the constitution, example must be set as a warning for the rest of them !!

This is exactly why Kiyani says that he can't win against the Islamist enemy without "unflinching support of the masses" - because what happens if he and his officers are tried at a later date for doing their duty as they saw it then but political winds have changed now?

Mr. Musharraf is "Charged", not convicted, lets keep that in mind - political winds are not going to just blow one way - and the CJP and company will also retire one day, and they too will face political winds that will bring into contest their activism even as mllions of cases go unresolved in Pakistan
 
I always ranked Musharaf above PML(N)/PPP..I was THE only guy among my friends who was sad when Musharraf retired...But his time has passed...

His supporters : Please, vote PTI in upcoming elections... If you claim to be supporting Musharraf and his cause--you have no option but to vote PTI! Musharraf himself would LOVE to see PTI ( a third political force) in power...Humain in feudal families' parties se jaan churaani hai ab...Don't waste your vote. Not voting = voting for PML(N)/PPP status quo!
 
This is exactly why Kiyani says that he can't win against the Islamist enemy without "unflinching support of the masses" - because what happens if he and his officers are tried at a later date for doing their duty as they saw it then but political winds have changed now?

Mr. Musharraf is "Charged", not convicted, lets keep that in mind - political winds are not going to just blow one way - and the CJP and company will also retire one day, and they too will face political winds that will bring into contest their activism even as mllions of cases go unresolved in Pakistan


That is important. Gen Musharraf is charged, but has not yet been convicted of anything. I am sure some sort of "deal" is inevitable, given the way we always do things. However, a fig leaf of due process will be painted on the deal to make it respectable.
 
why would he need to leave the country if he 'settles' the cases against him. By settling did you mean doing secret deal with judiciary and some political parties?

Why not he will leave country after settling cases ... He then will be free to go anywhere ... He is a respected person all over the world ..............
 

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