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Mumbai : Prove Fire Temple Is Important To You, State Tells Parsis

We might as well leave India is this is what it's come to.

Cheers, Doc

Doc
I have had absolute fascination with Parsi architecture and religion too.
But, do you know any established Parsi architects .. preferably older than young ones ?

I mean
just look at this
Zoroastrian_Fire_Temple_in_Yazd.jpg
 
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Old strongholds of Zoroastrianism like Balkh would have scriptures because there is still community over there.Iran also has got lot of Parsis.

the temple is Atash Behram , the fire of the highest grade, there are 9 such temples, 8 in India, 1 in Iran. The 2 in Mumbai are affected by the metro underground works.

Balkh is in Afghanistan doubt there are any Zoroastrians, Yazd in Iran is the present centre of Zoroastrianism


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We might as well leave India is this is what it's come to.

Cheers, Doc

Built in 1830's it means its almost two centuries old. Can't it be claimed under world heritage site? Move the UNESCO.

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india is for smaller nuni size people only, the rest must prove why having bigger size is related to their religion.
 
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Aoa

I wonder where inciting a large segment of their population against another segment that runs into 100s of millions would be of much benefit to them.

Targeting each minority group is not going to lead to stability and prosperity. I wonder what they think will happen if they keep pushing and pushing.

India has its share of enemies. why give them opportunities.
 
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Masjid not integral to Muslims, Jallikattu not integral to Tamils , Fire Temple not integral to Parsis

Parsis once the largest financiers of BJP hate politics getting a taste of the Hindutva medicine

Perfect case of:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

@padamchen :lol:
 
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Doc
I have had absolute fascination with Parsi architecture and religion too.
But, do you know any established Parsi architects .. preferably older than young ones ?

I mean
just look at this
Zoroastrian_Fire_Temple_in_Yazd.jpg

Ancient Persian architecture is beautiful, no doubt. There are also Masjids and Palaces in that style as well.

The great mosques, libraries, palaces of Bukhara, Samarkand are also built in a Persian style.

If you ever visit Shah Jahan masjid in Thatta, Sindh then you will see the Persian Islamic influence.
 
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Doc
I have had absolute fascination with Parsi architecture and religion too.
But, do you know any established Parsi architects .. preferably older than young ones ?

I mean
just look at this
Zoroastrian_Fire_Temple_in_Yazd.jpg

Bro we have tons of very very good (and very expensive) architects.

Some of the biggest architect firms are Parsi owned and run. Shapoorji Pallonji is just one of the better known ones.

There are a lot of new Agiaris and Dar-e-Mehers that are built in the latter half of the last century in towns and cities that accumulated a sizeable Parsi community through migration and commerce.

These are generally in the neo-classical style. The older ones from the time Parsis first settled in each town or city are more traditional.

Nonetheless some elements like the columns, arches, faravahr, number of steps, wells, orientation, ventilation, etc externally remain common. And there are very detailed rules and rituals for the interiors. And a very long elaborate process of consecration of the Atash before it is installed.

Grades of Fires and Temples
Today, there are three grades of fires:
• Atash Bahram (or Atash Behram),
• Atash Adaran, and
• Atash Dadgah.

The three grades of fires have given rise to three principle (and somewhat arbitrary) grades of temples:
• Atash Bahram (or Atash Behram),
• Agiary (in India) or Atashkadeh (in Iran), and
• Darbe Meher/Dar-e-Mehr.

An Atash Bahram and an Agiary (also spelt Agiari) or Atashkadeh have an inner sanctum where the fire is maintained and where ceremonies of the inner circle are conducted. This rectangular sanctuary, demarcated by furrows, is called the pavi. Only ritually purified priests can enter the demarcated pavi area. The afargan or fire urn, is placed on an elevated marble platform at the south end of the pavi area. The ritual instrument table called the alat-khwan is placed towards one end of the pavi area.

Atash Bahram / Behram
Atash Bahram or Atash Behram is the name given to both the highest grade of fire and the temple that houses the Atash Bahram (Victorious Fire). Atash Bahrams are usually under the care of Dasturs, high priests, who are assisted by a team of subordinate priests.

The establishment and consecration of an Atash Bahram is the most elaborate of the three grades of fires. Fires are gathered from sixteen different sources, including lightening, fire from trades where a furnace is operated, and the hearth fires of the asronih (priests), the (r)atheshtarih (soldiers and civil servants), the vastaryoshih (farmers and herdsmen) and the hutokshih (artisans and labourers). The fires go through a consecration ritual before they join the others in the united fire. The consecration ceremony requires thirty two qualified priests and can take up to two years for completion.

There are nine Atash Bahrams: eight in India and one in Iran.

Iranshah Atash Bahram, Udvada, India
The Iranshah (King of Iran) Atash Bahram in Udvada, India, was established 1742 CE. Its fire is said to have been consecrated in 721 CE (roz/day Adar, mah/month Adar, 90 AY) at Sanjan, Gujarat, India, shortly after a large group of Zoroastrians fled to India's Gujarat coast following the Arab conquest of Iran.

The Atash Bahram in Udvada is called Iranshah, King of Iran, symbolically taking the place of the deposed Zoroastrian monarchy of Iran.

This is Ground Zero for Zoroastrians worldwide. Our Mecca ....

IranshahUdvadaPre2009.jpg


Desai / Bhagarsath Atash Bahram, Navsari, India
The fire of the Desai Atash Bahram in Navsari, India was consecrated December 2, 1765 ACE (roz/day Sarosh, mah/month Ardibehest, 1135 AY)
Address: Tarota Bazar, Navsari, Gujarat.

Navsari1.jpg


Dadiseth Atash Bahram, Mumbai, India
The Dadiseth (also spelt Dadyseth, Dadysett, Dadyset) Atash Bahram was Mumbai / Bombay's first Atash Bahram. It was built by Dadibhai Noshirwanji Dadyseth In 1771 CE.

The fire of the Dadiseth (Kadmi) Atash Bahram in Mumbai, India was consecrated September 29, 1783 (roz/day Govad, mah/month Aspandad, 1153 AY)
Address: Dadiseth Agiary Lane, Fanaswadi (near Chira Bazar), Dhobi Talao, (South) Mumbai.

KadmiDadiseth.jpg


Modi Atash Bahram, Surat, India
The fire of the Modi (Shenshai) Atash Bahram in Surat, India was consecrated November 19, 1823 (roz/day Sarosh, mah/month Ardibehest, 1193 AY)
Address: Sayyadpura, Bhagol, Surat, Gujarat.

Suratmody.jpg


Vakil Atash Bahram, Surat, India
The fire of the Vakil (Kadmi) Atash Bahram in Surat, India was consecrated December 5, 1823 (roz/day Ardibehest, mah/month Khordad, 1193 AY)
Address: Shahpore, Surat, Gujarat.

Suratkadmi.jpg


Wadia Atash Bahram, Mumbai, India
The fire of the Wadia (Shenshai) Atash Bahram in Mumbai, India was consecrated November 17, 1830 (roz/day Sarosh, mah/month Ardibehest, 1200 AY)
Address: Princess St, Dhobi Talao, Marine Lines, Mumbai.

MumbaiWadiaji.jpg


Banaji Atash Bahram, Mumbai, India
The fire of the Banaji (Kadmi) Atash Bahram in Mumbai, India was consecrated December 13, 1845 (roz/day Sarosh, mah/month Khordad, 1215 AY)
Address: Thakurdwar Road, Charni Rd, Mumbai.

KadmiMumbaiBanaji.jpg


Anjuman Atash Bahram, Mumbai, India
The fire of the Zartoshti Anjumanna Atash Bahram in Mumbai, India was consecrated October 17, 1897 (roz/day Ardibehest, mah/month Ardibehest, 1267 AY)
Address: J. Shankarsheth Road, Dhobi Talao, Marine Lines, Mumbai.

MumbaiAnjuman.jpg


Yazd Atash Bahram, Yazd, Iran
The present Yazd Atash Bahram building in Yazd, Iran, was established 1934. A plaque states the flame has "been burning since about 470 ACE and was transferred from Nahid-e-Pars temple to Ardakan, then to Yazd and to its present site."

Yazd1.jpg


Ushta te.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Bro we have tons of very very good (and very expensive) architects.

Some of the biggest architect firms are Parsi owned and run. Shapoorji Pallonji is just one of the better known ones.

There are a lot of new Agiaris and Dar-e-Mehers that are built in the latter half of the last century in towns and cities that accumulated a sizeable Parsi community through migration and commerce.

These are generally in the neo-classical style. The older ones from the time Parsis first settled in each town or city are more traditional.

Nonetheless some elements like the columns, arches, faravahr, number of steps, wells, orientation, ventilation, etc externally remain common. And there are very detailed rules and rituals for the interiors. And a very long elaborate process of consecration of the Atash before it is installed.

Grades of Fires and Temples
Today, there are three grades of fires:
• Atash Bahram (or Atash Behram),
• Atash Adaran, and
• Atash Dadgah.

The three grades of fires have given rise to three principle (and somewhat arbitrary) grades of temples:
• Atash Bahram (or Atash Behram),
• Agiary (in India) or Atashkadeh (in Iran), and
• Darbe Meher/Dar-e-Mehr.

An Atash Bahram and an Agiary (also spelt Agiari) or Atashkadeh have an inner sanctum where the fire is maintained and where ceremonies of the inner circle are conducted. This rectangular sanctuary, demarcated by furrows, is called the pavi. Only ritually purified priests can enter the demarcated pavi area. The afargan or fire urn, is placed on an elevated marble platform at the south end of the pavi area. The ritual instrument table called the alat-khwan is placed towards one end of the pavi area.

Atash Bahram / Behram
Atash Bahram or Atash Behram is the name given to both the highest grade of fire and the temple that houses the Atash Bahram (Victorious Fire). Atash Bahrams are usually under the care of Dasturs, high priests, who are assisted by a team of subordinate priests.

The establishment and consecration of an Atash Bahram is the most elaborate of the three grades of fires. Fires are gathered from sixteen different sources, including lightening, fire from trades where a furnace is operated, and the hearth fires of the asronih (priests), the (r)atheshtarih (soldiers and civil servants), the vastaryoshih (farmers and herdsmen) and the hutokshih (artisans and labourers). The fires go through a consecration ritual before they join the others in the united fire. The consecration ceremony requires thirty two qualified priests and can take up to two years for completion.

There are nine Atash Bahrams: eight in India and one in Iran.

Iranshah Atash Bahram, Udvada, India
The Iranshah (King of Iran) Atash Bahram in Udvada, India, was established 1742 CE. Its fire is said to have been consecrated in 721 CE (roz/day Adar, mah/month Adar, 90 AY) at Sanjan, Gujarat, India, shortly after a large group of Zoroastrians fled to India's Gujarat coast following the Arab conquest of Iran.

The Atash Bahram in Udvada is called Iranshah, King of Iran, symbolically taking the place of the deposed Zoroastrian monarchy of Iran.

This is Ground Zero for Zoroastrians worldwide. Our Mecca ....

IranshahUdvadaPre2009.jpg


Desai / Bhagarsath Atash Bahram, Navsari, India
The fire of the Desai Atash Bahram in Navsari, India was consecrated December 2, 1765 ACE (roz/day Sarosh, mah/month Ardibehest, 1135 AY)
Address: Tarota Bazar, Navsari, Gujarat.

Navsari1.jpg


Dadiseth Atash Bahram, Mumbai, India
The Dadiseth (also spelt Dadyseth, Dadysett, Dadyset) Atash Bahram was Mumbai / Bombay's first Atash Bahram. It was built by Dadibhai Noshirwanji Dadyseth In 1771 CE.

The fire of the Dadiseth (Kadmi) Atash Bahram in Mumbai, India was consecrated September 29, 1783 (roz/day Govad, mah/month Aspandad, 1153 AY)
Address: Dadiseth Agiary Lane, Fanaswadi (near Chira Bazar), Dhobi Talao, (South) Mumbai.

KadmiDadiseth.jpg


Modi Atash Bahram, Surat, India
The fire of the Modi (Shenshai) Atash Bahram in Surat, India was consecrated November 19, 1823 (roz/day Sarosh, mah/month Ardibehest, 1193 AY)
Address: Sayyadpura, Bhagol, Surat, Gujarat.

Suratmody.jpg


Vakil Atash Bahram, Surat, India
The fire of the Vakil (Kadmi) Atash Bahram in Surat, India was consecrated December 5, 1823 (roz/day Ardibehest, mah/month Khordad, 1193 AY)
Address: Shahpore, Surat, Gujarat.

Suratkadmi.jpg


Wadia Atash Bahram, Mumbai, India
The fire of the Wadia (Shenshai) Atash Bahram in Mumbai, India was consecrated November 17, 1830 (roz/day Sarosh, mah/month Ardibehest, 1200 AY)
Address: Princess St, Dhobi Talao, Marine Lines, Mumbai.

MumbaiWadiaji.jpg


Banaji Atash Bahram, Mumbai, India
The fire of the Banaji (Kadmi) Atash Bahram in Mumbai, India was consecrated December 13, 1845 (roz/day Sarosh, mah/month Khordad, 1215 AY)
Address: Thakurdwar Road, Charni Rd, Mumbai.

KadmiMumbaiBanaji.jpg


Anjuman Atash Bahram, Mumbai, India
The fire of the Zartoshti Anjumanna Atash Bahram in Mumbai, India was consecrated October 17, 1897 (roz/day Ardibehest, mah/month Ardibehest, 1267 AY)
Address: J. Shankarsheth Road, Dhobi Talao, Marine Lines, Mumbai.

MumbaiAnjuman.jpg


Yazd Atash Bahram, Yazd, Iran
The present Yazd Atash Bahram building in Yazd, Iran, was established 1934. A plaque states the flame has "been burning since about 470 ACE and was transferred from Nahid-e-Pars temple to Ardakan, then to Yazd and to its present site."

Yazd1.jpg


Ushta te.

Cheers, Doc


Simply fascinating ..
I am so very interested in learning this .. even at this age.
Nonetheless some elements like the columns, arches, faravahr, number of steps, wells, orientation, ventilation, etc externally remain common. And there are very detailed rules and rituals for the interiors. And a very long elaborate process of consecration of the Atash before it is installed.

Now where can I find these rules and principles.
Name a place, or person or organization please.

Ancient Persian architecture is beautiful, no doubt. There are also Masjids and Palaces in that style as well.

The great mosques, libraries, palaces of Bukhara, Samarkand are also built in a Persian style.

If you ever visit Shah Jahan masjid in Thatta, Sindh then you will see the Persian Islamic influence.

I think there is difference in persian and parsi architecture.
former is derived from the later.
It's the original principles that I am interested to learn.
 
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Simply fascinating ..
I am so very interested in learning this .. even at this age.

Now where can I find these rules and principles.
Name a place, or person or organization please.

I think there is difference in persian and parsi architecture.
former is derived from the later.
It's the original principles that I am interested to learn.

templeAgiary.jpg


Grades of Fires and Temples
Today, there are three grades of fires:
• Atash Bahram (or Atash Behram),
• Atash Adaran, and
• Atash Dadgah.

The three grades of fires have given rise to three principle (and somewhat arbitrary) grades of temples:
• Atash Bahram (or Atash Behram),
• Agiary (in India) or Atashkadeh (in Iran), and
• Darbe Meher/Dar-e-Mehr.

An Atash Bahram and an Agiary (also spelt Agiari) or Atashkadeh have an inner sanctum where the fire is maintained and where ceremonies of the inner circle are conducted. This rectangular sanctuary, demarcated by furrows, is called the pavi. Only ritually purified priests can enter the pavi. The afringan or fire urn, is placed on an elevated marble platform at the south end of the pavi. Towards the north end of the pavi is the ritual instrument table, or alat-khwan.

Atash Adaran, Agiary, Atashkadeh
An Atash Adaran or fire of fires, is the second grade of fire and is generally housed in an Agiari (also spelt Agiary, Agyari, Agiyari - India, Gujerati) or Atashkadeh (Iran, Farsi), both meaning a house of fire.

Agiaries and Atashkadeh do not require a high priest and can be attended by Mobeds.

The fire is built from the hearth fires of representatives from four professions: the asronih (priests), the (r)atheshtarih (soldiers and civil servants), the vastaryoshih (farmers and herdsmen) and the hutokshih (artisans and labourers). The consecration of the Adaran fire requires eight priests and can take between two and three weeks. With some Agiaries, the priest maintains a consecrated fire at home, brings the fire to the Agiary when required, and later takes it back home.

insideAgiari.jpg


Atashkadeh, Tehran, Iran

Tehran.jpg


Early History of Mumbai's (Bombay's) Fire Temples

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Seven Islands of Bombay

The history of Bombay /Mumbai's fire temples parallels the history of Parsi settlement in Bombay and indeed the formation of Bombay as a city and the financial hub of India.

Even before the British takeover of the seven islands of Bombay in February 1665 CE, the Parsi Kharshedji Pochaji Panday had provided the original Portuguese possessors with materials and men to build the first fortification on the island of Bom-Bahia (later anglicized to Bombay) meaning good bay in Portuguese - the area of which came to be known as Castle and the Fort district of Bombay.

CatherineBraganza.jpg

Catherine of Braganza

When they took possession of the islands as part of Portuguese Catherine of Braganza's dowry to King Charles II of Britain, the British expressed disappointment their with the territory. However, during the next one hundred and fifty years, the Parsees saw the islands' potential and shaped the islands' early development and physical outline.

The Dorabji family were among the early Parsi inhabitants of Bombay. In 1692, when the British garrison of Bombay had been decimated by a cholera epidemic, Rustamji Dorabji rallied the Koli fisherman and other residents to defend Bombay from an attack by the Muslim Sidi of Janjira. In recognition of his leadership and valour, the British appointed Rustamji with the hereditary title of patel or chief, a position that carried the authority of collecting taxes from the residents. Together with the Patel family, the Banaji and Modi families also rose to prominence in Bombay, and the men of these families were referred to as seth or sett.

The Parsees erected the first tower of silence between 1670 and 1675. During the same period, Hirji Vacha Modi constructed Bombay's first fire temple that housed an Atash Adaran, in the Fort area. Regrettably, the temple did not survive the fire of 1803. In 1709 CE, Banaji Limji built Bombay's second fire temple, also located in the Fort district.

Banaji.jpg

Seth Banaji Limji Shenshai Agiary
Banaji Street, Fort,
Fire consecrated: Adar day, Adar month, 1078 AY (June 25, 1709)
Oldest surviving fire temple in Mumbai

In 1730 Manockji (spelt Maneckji today) Nowroji, son of the great international Parsi trader Rustam Monock, arrived in Bombay from Surat and lost no time in purchasing a large tract of land on which he built a fire temple. Beside the fire temple, Manockji also built a wadi or colony for Parsees to accommodate a growing Parsi population, which by 1811, stood at 10,042 in Bombay town and Island. In the Fort area itself had a total population of 10,801 in 1813, out of which the Parsees numbered 5,364.

The Manockji fire temple was badly damaged in the fire of 1803 and its consecrated fire was temporarily moved to the Soonaiji Agiary at Gowalia Tank. Wealthy Parsi merchants of that time donated funds for the repairs while the less well-off, contributed eggs and mugs of toddy that toddy, items that were mixed with the reconstruction mortar. The fire was reinstalled and enthroned in 1845.

The next oldest surviving fire temple, the Maneckji Navroji Sett Shenshai Agiary, is located less than a kilometre away.

ManeckjiLg.jpg

Maneckji Navroji Sett Shenshai Agiary
225 Perin Nariman Street, Fort, behind Citi Bank
Fire consecrated: Adar day, Adar month, 1102 AY (June 19, 1733)
Second oldest surviving fire temple in Mumbai

In 1786 and 1798, Mancherji Jivanji Readymoney and Dadibhai Nusserwanji Dadiseth respectively built private dakhmas for themselves and their families in Bombay.

We include below a photograph of the Seth Jamshedji Dadabhai Amaria Agiary as an example of the architecture of the early Agiaries.

Amaria.jpg

Seth Jamshedji Dadabhai Amaria or Sodawaterwalla, Shenshai Agiary
Anandilal Podar Marg at Maharshi Karve Rd, Dhobi Talao, near Marine Lines Station
Fire consecrated: Farvardin day, Farvardin month, 1254 AY (October 6, 1884)
Photo: Mark Fitch, Bethesda, MD, USA
Resource: The Parsis of India by Jesse S. Palsetia, BRILL, 2001.

Atash Dadgah, Dar-e-Meher or Darbe Mehr

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Priest lighting an Atash Dadgah

The Atash Dadgah, the court fire, is the third grade of fire. Dadgah means court in Persian. The grade came to include home and heart fires. Today, the Atash Dadgah refers to any fire used in worship that is not consecrated. This grade of fire does not require a priest in attendance and can be attended to by the laity.

For the pragmatic, consecrating the Atash Dadgah is optional. For the orthodox, every fire used in worship is consecrated. If preferred, the fire can be consecrated within the course of a few hours by two priests who take turns reciting the 72 verses of the Yasna (a book of the the Zoroastrian scriptures - the Avesta). Consecration may also include the readings from the Vendidad.

Dar-e-Mehr or Darbe Mehr means the door of kindness and love. The name was used by Fasli Zoroastrians for their temple and by the Iranian Zoroastrians for the Tehran fire temple. The name by itself does not imply the grade of fire used within. However, because it is the name given to the Zoroastrian places of worship financed by an endowment from Arbab Rustam Guiv, and because the fires in these Darbe Mehrs were not necessarily consecrated or attended to by priests, the name Darbe Mehr is frequently associated with the Atash Dadgah grade of fire.

Most of the Atash in the USA and Europe and Canada and Australia and indeed Sri Lanka and Myanmar and Africa and China are of this kind.

Cheers, Doc
 
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A plaque states the flame has "been burning since about 470 ACE and was transferred from Nahid-e-Pars temple to Ardakan, then to Yazd and to its present site."

Wow.. Thats amazing, And the architecture stunning, Btw are there any remnants of Parsies or Zoroastrians in modern day Pakistan ? They survived in Iran and India so i reckon there must be a footprint in Pakistan as well.. Given that even tiny Sri Lanka have a sprinkling of Parsi's
 
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templeAgiary.jpg


Grades of Fires and Temples
Today, there are three grades of fires:
• Atash Bahram (or Atash Behram),
• Atash Adaran, and
• Atash Dadgah.

The three grades of fires have given rise to three principle (and somewhat arbitrary) grades of temples:
• Atash Bahram (or Atash Behram),
• Agiary (in India) or Atashkadeh (in Iran), and
• Darbe Meher/Dar-e-Mehr.

An Atash Bahram and an Agiary (also spelt Agiari) or Atashkadeh have an inner sanctum where the fire is maintained and where ceremonies of the inner circle are conducted. This rectangular sanctuary, demarcated by furrows, is called the pavi. Only ritually purified priests can enter the pavi. The afringan or fire urn, is placed on an elevated marble platform at the south end of the pavi. Towards the north end of the pavi is the ritual instrument table, or alat-khwan.

Atash Adaran, Agiary, Atashkadeh
An Atash Adaran or fire of fires, is the second grade of fire and is generally housed in an Agiari (also spelt Agiary, Agyari, Agiyari - India, Gujerati) or Atashkadeh (Iran, Farsi), both meaning a house of fire.

Agiaries and Atashkadeh do not require a high priest and can be attended by Mobeds.

The fire is built from the hearth fires of representatives from four professions: the asronih (priests), the (r)atheshtarih (soldiers and civil servants), the vastaryoshih (farmers and herdsmen) and the hutokshih (artisans and labourers). The consecration of the Adaran fire requires eight priests and can take between two and three weeks. With some Agiaries, the priest maintains a consecrated fire at home, brings the fire to the Agiary when required, and later takes it back home.

insideAgiari.jpg


Atashkadeh, Tehran, Iran

Tehran.jpg


Early History of Mumbai's (Bombay's) Fire Temples

SevenIslandsBombay.png


Seven Islands of Bombay

The history of Bombay /Mumbai's fire temples parallels the history of Parsi settlement in Bombay and indeed the formation of Bombay as a city and the financial hub of India.

Even before the British takeover of the seven islands of Bombay in February 1665 CE, the Parsi Kharshedji Pochaji Panday had provided the original Portuguese possessors with materials and men to build the first fortification on the island of Bom-Bahia (later anglicized to Bombay) meaning good bay in Portuguese - the area of which came to be known as Castle and the Fort district of Bombay.

CatherineBraganza.jpg

Catherine of Braganza

When they took possession of the islands as part of Portuguese Catherine of Braganza's dowry to King Charles II of Britain, the British expressed disappointment their with the territory. However, during the next one hundred and fifty years, the Parsees saw the islands' potential and shaped the islands' early development and physical outline.

The Dorabji family were among the early Parsi inhabitants of Bombay. In 1692, when the British garrison of Bombay had been decimated by a cholera epidemic, Rustamji Dorabji rallied the Koli fisherman and other residents to defend Bombay from an attack by the Muslim Sidi of Janjira. In recognition of his leadership and valour, the British appointed Rustamji with the hereditary title of patel or chief, a position that carried the authority of collecting taxes from the residents. Together with the Patel family, the Banaji and Modi families also rose to prominence in Bombay, and the men of these families were referred to as seth or sett.

The Parsees erected the first tower of silence between 1670 and 1675. During the same period, Hirji Vacha Modi constructed Bombay's first fire temple that housed an Atash Adaran, in the Fort area. Regrettably, the temple did not survive the fire of 1803. In 1709 CE, Banaji Limji built Bombay's second fire temple, also located in the Fort district.

Banaji.jpg

Seth Banaji Limji Shenshai Agiary
Banaji Street, Fort,
Fire consecrated: Adar day, Adar month, 1078 AY (June 25, 1709)
Oldest surviving fire temple in Mumbai

In 1730 Manockji (spelt Maneckji today) Nowroji, son of the great international Parsi trader Rustam Monock, arrived in Bombay from Surat and lost no time in purchasing a large tract of land on which he built a fire temple. Beside the fire temple, Manockji also built a wadi or colony for Parsees to accommodate a growing Parsi population, which by 1811, stood at 10,042 in Bombay town and Island. In the Fort area itself had a total population of 10,801 in 1813, out of which the Parsees numbered 5,364.

The Manockji fire temple was badly damaged in the fire of 1803 and its consecrated fire was temporarily moved to the Soonaiji Agiary at Gowalia Tank. Wealthy Parsi merchants of that time donated funds for the repairs while the less well-off, contributed eggs and mugs of toddy that toddy, items that were mixed with the reconstruction mortar. The fire was reinstalled and enthroned in 1845.

The next oldest surviving fire temple, the Maneckji Navroji Sett Shenshai Agiary, is located less than a kilometre away.

ManeckjiLg.jpg

Maneckji Navroji Sett Shenshai Agiary
225 Perin Nariman Street, Fort, behind Citi Bank
Fire consecrated: Adar day, Adar month, 1102 AY (June 19, 1733)
Second oldest surviving fire temple in Mumbai

In 1786 and 1798, Mancherji Jivanji Readymoney and Dadibhai Nusserwanji Dadiseth respectively built private dakhmas for themselves and their families in Bombay.

We include below a photograph of the Seth Jamshedji Dadabhai Amaria Agiary as an example of the architecture of the early Agiaries.

Amaria.jpg

Seth Jamshedji Dadabhai Amaria or Sodawaterwalla, Shenshai Agiary
Anandilal Podar Marg at Maharshi Karve Rd, Dhobi Talao, near Marine Lines Station
Fire consecrated: Farvardin day, Farvardin month, 1254 AY (October 6, 1884)
Photo: Mark Fitch, Bethesda, MD, USA
Resource: The Parsis of India by Jesse S. Palsetia, BRILL, 2001.

Atash Dadgah, Dar-e-Meher or Darbe Mehr

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Priest lighting an Atash Dadgah

The Atash Dadgah, the court fire, is the third grade of fire. Dadgah means court in Persian. The grade came to include home and heart fires. Today, the Atash Dadgah refers to any fire used in worship that is not consecrated. This grade of fire does not require a priest in attendance and can be attended to by the laity.

For the pragmatic, consecrating the Atash Dadgah is optional. For the orthodox, every fire used in worship is consecrated. If preferred, the fire can be consecrated within the course of a few hours by two priests who take turns reciting the 72 verses of the Yasna (a book of the the Zoroastrian scriptures - the Avesta). Consecration may also include the readings from the Vendidad.

Dar-e-Mehr or Darbe Mehr means the door of kindness and love. The name was used by Fasli Zoroastrians for their temple and by the Iranian Zoroastrians for the Tehran fire temple. The name by itself does not imply the grade of fire used within. However, because it is the name given to the Zoroastrian places of worship financed by an endowment from Arbab Rustam Guiv, and because the fires in these Darbe Mehrs were not necessarily consecrated or attended to by priests, the name Darbe Mehr is frequently associated with the Atash Dadgah grade of fire.

Most of the Atash in the USA and Europe and Canada and Australia and indeed Sri Lanka and Myanmar and Africa and China are of this kind.

Cheers, Doc

You do know I speak Urdu, and thus understand most of Farsi words.
so unless it is from old Paras no need to translate.
 
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Wow.. Thats amazing, And the architecture stunning, Btw are there any remnants of Parsies or Zoroastrians in modern day Pakistan ? They survived in Iran and India so i reckon there must be a footprint in Pakistan as well.. Given that even tiny Sri Lanka have a springing of Parsi's

Yes. I had family in Lahore Cantt from dad's side. They are now in the US with some kids in Europe. Met some uncles and aunts once in a Navjote in Mumbai when I was a kid.

And Karachi like Bombay is a Parsi hub. They have a Tower of Silence there too if I'm not mistaken.

Cheers, Doc
 
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