MRTP-33 Fast Attack Boats

[MJaa]

Chill, you don't have to convince me, given what I already said in post #53. Just pointing out what needs to be counted.

Nonetheless:


That's 7,925 kg or 12,304kg, respectively according to the Naval Institute Guide to World Naval Weapon Systems (by Norman Friedman).

However, according to here:


Considering the different numbers, it could be that both are correct and that the difference (12304-5900=6404) is the weight of the metal structure on which one set of 4 missiles in canisters rests.

But this seems unlikely, also given the individual missile weights (4x 690kg = 2760 kg).

More likely is that the weight quoted by Norman Friendman is for a set of 2x4 rather than 1x4. If so, the Naval Institute Guide puts a 4-round Mk141 launcher assembly at 6152kg, which quite is close to the other quote for this assembly, namely 5900kg. That would mean the Mk140 assembly equals 50% of 7925 kg i.e. 3963kg, of which 2760kg (4x690kg) is actual missiles. (100*2760)/3963=70%

Applied to 4 C802 > 4x 715 = 2860 = 70% > 100%= 4107 kg at least for a lightweight assembly.

However, as we know, c802 canister assemblies on ships appears bulkier than those of RGM-84: there may not be a lightweight version.

Sticking then with the Mk141 assembly: 6152kg of which 2760kg is missiles (45%), when applied to c802 gives 2860=45% > 100%=6383kg, which would be too heavy for MRTP-33 (just like 6152 of Mk141 would be, incidentally).

But these numbers includes the metal frame on which the 4 canisters rest! Which may not be needed with MRTP-33. Question is whether the metal frames weigh more than 1152-1383kg ...

As per Jane's Naval Weapon Systems There are two launcher systems; the Mark 140 for fast attack craft and corvettes and the Mark 141 for larger warships. The Mark 141 features shock-resistant and thick-wall assemblies, which are usually used in larger vessels. Each has a support structure while the front ends of the launcher tubes are held by a clamp frame assembly. The central and rear ends are held by stacking frames with the thick wall assemblies providing armour protection for the missiles against fragments. The Mark 140 features aluminium launcher containers designed for 15 firing refurbishment cycles. These containers are held together and to the aluminium support structure by stacking frames. Both can launch missiles at the rate of one every 2 seconds but, with four launcher-containers, the Mark 140 weighs 4.02 tonnes while the Mark 141 weighs 5.9 tonnes. Usually ships carry a pair of launcher systems. The launcher-containers are inclined at an angle of 35º while the launcher systems either face forwards, but offset from the centreline, or are at 90º to the centreline facing starboard and port. The Mark 140 system is 4.65 m long, 1.38 m wide and 3.85 m high and requires 6.42 m2. However, with the development of indirect attack versions using `dog leg' flights (Block 1 C/D), the launchers can now face any direction. Normally launcher systems have four launcher-containers. The missiles were originally removed from the launcher-container annually for inspection but may now be left for four years with surface-launched weapons and five years for submarine-launched weapons.


Mark 140 Four launcher-containers weighs 4.02 tonnes with each harpoon weight is (with booster) 681.9 kg and C802A weights 715kgs so it is 1.05 times Heavier then Harpoon and if we use same percentage container should weight around 4.2 tonnes rest of the 0.8 tonnes is still there for any error in calculations

 

[Penguin]

My kind of post

 

[Mehmet]

Anybody know what the mission profile of the Pak MRTP-33s are going to be? From my understanding this ship is modular meaning that it can be equipped with different weapons as required.

 

[REHAN NIAZI FALCON]

last week i met one of her crew. he was really praising her speed. according to him she is doing patrolling duty very excellently and is very much loved by navy men.

 

[Obambam]

Would be nice to see Pakistan with both the Turkish MRTP-33 and the Chinese Houbei class Type 022.

 

[Areesh]

Would be nice to see Pakistan with both the Turkish MRTP-33 and the Chinese Houbei class Type 022.

It would be MRTP33+ Type 037 class FAC's. PN is buying two Type 037 class FAC's.

 

[Arsalan]

the Type 037 class FAC's will surely be good value for money.
termed as submarine chasers, these are also effective in mine laying and patrol duties.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Which (4)500 ton FAC did we chose penguin?

Sorry for being offtopic.

 

[Obambam]

It would be MRTP33+ Type 037 class FAC's. PN is buying two Type 037 class FAC's.

Agreed. It makes better sense to couple MRTP33+ Type 037 class submarine chaser together.
I spoke with thoughts purely based on the image of how they will both look togther. Sexy and intimidating to say the least.

 

[Haseebullah]

When the hell are we going to see the type 022!!!?

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Type 37 Sub Chaser have been put in reserve with Chinese Navy!!!! These are obsolete boats and the concept of sub chasers is also obsolete.

 

[Penguin]

Type 37 Sub Chaser have been put in reserve with Chinese Navy!!!! These are obsolete boats and the concept of sub chasers is also obsolete.

Indeed, theere is a real big difference between the Type 037 (Hainan Class) Submarine Chaser

and the Type 037-II (Houjian Class) Missile Corvette!

 

[Penguin]

Which (4)500 ton FAC did we chose penguin?

Sorry for being offtopic.

I'm not sure a choice has been made already! And while we've speculated on contenders here, I've not seen anything firm on who's bidding on the tender.

 

[monitor]

Mark 208 Multipurpose Concealed Launcher System

The Mark 208 Multipurpose Concealed Launcher System was design strictly for use on the Vindicator class fast attack craft. They are designed to maximize stealth while being able to support several configurations. The Mark 208 MCLS can handle up to eight missiles in total at the maximum size or fewer if they are larger. Each Mark 208 MCLS has a single launch tube capable of holding weapons as long as 28.00 ft. and as wide as 48.00 inches and can sustain a maximum weight of 40,000.00 lb. However, this can be segregated into four tubes capable of holding weapons as long as 28.00 ft., as wide as 24.00 inches, and as heavy as 7,500.00 lb. This allows the MCLS to carry many weapons in the Layartebian arsenal.

 

[Penguin]

Mark 208 Multipurpose Concealed Launcher System

The Mark 208 Multipurpose Concealed Launcher System was design strictly for use on the Vindicator class fast attack craft. They are designed to maximize stealth while being able to support several configurations. The Mark 208 MCLS can handle up to eight missiles in total at the maximum size or fewer if they are larger. Each Mark 208 MCLS has a single launch tube capable of holding weapons as long as 28.00 ft. and as wide as 48.00 inches and can sustain a maximum weight of 40,000.00 lb. However, this can be segregated into four tubes capable of holding weapons as long as 28.00 ft., as wide as 24.00 inches, and as heavy as 7,500.00 lb. This allows the MCLS to carry many weapons in the Layartebian arsenal.

Taken from: .·. the forsaken outlaw .·.

Which presents the Chinese Type 022 pic as the so called Vindicator class, and would have it equipped with Rolls Royce engines and "1 M310A1 Swiftkill 45MM Autocannon with 750 rounds"
.·. the forsaken outlaw .·.

<chuckle>
fictional stuff.