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Though it's an lit old article but worth a lot to read Karachi and it's politics and reasons MQM emerge, Karachi need a political solution as problems laying there are genuine and can't solve by force to neglect it's voice. As much as PPP responsible the mess they created PMLN which dominating only a special place is same responsible the route cause mention in article. @Gazi and other karachiets and non karachiets ( mean not living there )
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The most common account of the formation of the Muttahida (originally Mohajir) Qaumi Movement (MQM) involves claims that it was a party conceived in 1984 by the military dictatorship of General Ziaul Haq as a way to counterbalance the influence of certain political forces in Sindh. However, there is precious little clarity on the part of those political historians who toe this claim.

The Jamat-i-Islami (JI) was the first party to assert that the Zia regime had ‘created MQM’ to sideline JI’s influence in Karachi, even though between 1977 and 1984, the JI was openly supporting Zia. In the late 1980s, Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) insisted that the MQM had been formed by Pakistan’s intelligence agencies to curb the PPP in Sindh, whereas Sindhi nationalist parties were of the view that MQM came into being at the behest of the Zia regime because of the way Sindhi nationalists had protested during the violent anti-Zia MRD movement in Sindh in 1983.

Nevertheless, if one were to summarise the collective thesis on the subject by academics who have written extensively on the MQM – such as Muhammad Wasim, Laurent Gayer and Oskar Vaarkaik – one can suggest that, though, there was some involvement of Zia’s agencies in the formation of the MQM, this experiment soon backfired when the MQM quickly spun out of the agencies’ orbit and became an aggressively independent entity.

The MQM’s arrival was not simply about a Mohajir-centric student organisation (APMSO) evolving into a mainstream political party born out of political and economic frustrations of Mohajirs. One can treat this as an immediate historical snippet, but it is certainly not the complete story. Academics specialising in the politics of Sindh, such as Amir Ali Chandio and Dr Tanvir Tahir, trace back the formation of the political Mohajir ethnicity way back to the 1960s.

Along with Punjabis, Mohajirs dominated Pakistan’s initial ruling and economic elite and thus both these communities continued to invest their political support in either federalist or religious parties or in military dictatorships. Even those Mohajirs and Punjabis who joined outfits led by Sindhi, Pashtun, Bengali and Baloch nationalists (such as the National Awami Party (NAP), were largely part of the NAP’s Marxist wing that wanted to eschew politics of ethnicity and work towards a bourgeoisie-led socialist proletarian revolution.

But by the late 1960s, much of the country’s leftist tendencies were absorbed by the emergent PPP, and thus progressive non-Punjabi and non-Mohajir nationalists became more exclusivist. Consequently, the first ever demand to separate Karachi from Sindh (as a Mohajir-dominated province), actually came from an influential faction of the National Students Federation (NSF) that was associated with the NAP.

In 1969 Amir H. Kazmi, the head of his own faction of the Marxist NSF, was the first to raise the banner of Mohajir nationalism.

But few Mohajirs took the notion seriously, as they were still firmly imbedded in the concept of federalism and (like Punjabis) repulsed by ethnic nationalism. But as most of the left-leaning Punjabi and Sindhi intelligentsia and working classes and peasants invested their support in the federalist PPP, Mohajirs stuck to continue backing the equally federalist Islamic parties.

By the late 1960s Mohajirs had already begun to be dislodged from the Punjab-dominated ruling and economic elite with the gradual entry of the dictator Ayub-Khan-initiated entrance of the hardworking Pashtuns in the cherished fold. The rise of the PPP led by Z A Bhutto further added to the sense of dread rising amongst Mohajirs. This erupted in the shape of 1972 ‘language riots’ in Karachi when the Bhutto regime reintroduced Sindhi in educational institutions and Mohajirs saw this as ‘an attack on Urdu.’

The aftermath of the riots saw the formation of a city government movement (CGM). Studded with Mohajir intellectuals, former Karachi-based leftist student leaders and some businessmen, it again called for Karachi to be separated from Sindh.

This movement too failed to take off until the 1978 formation of Altaf Hussain’s APMSO. Ironically, Hussain, a former sympathiser of the JI, conceived his student outfit as a secular Mohajir organisation radically opposed to religious parties (which he accused of exploiting Mohajirs’ patriotism ‘to fatten Punjab’s political-economic hegemony’). In this he was bitterly opposed by JI’s student wing, the Islami Jamiat Tuleba (IJT).

The much overlooked reason behind the APMSO’s evolution into MQM is an economic one. According to famous Sindhi scholar, Ibrahim Joyo, ‘Punjabi economic hegemony’ increased immensely in Sindh during the dictatorship of Ziaul Haq. This situation had a negative impact on Karachi’s leading business communities (Memons, Gujaratis and other non-Punjabi business outfits). In such a situation these communities formed the Maha Sindh (MS) — an organisation set up to protect the interests of Karachi’s Memon, Gujarati and Mohajir businessmen and traders.

According to celebrated Sindhi intellectual Khaliq Junejo, the MS then encouraged and financed the formation of a ‘street-strong’ Karachi-based party: the MQM. It can be argued that it is this aspect of the MQM’s formation that sometimes gets mistaken into meaning that the party came about with the help of the Zia regime. This is so because the business communities in Karachi (stung by Bhutto’s nationalisation policies) were anti-Bhutto and had hailed his overthrow by Zia in 1977.

But by the early 1980s, they had been deluded by Zia’s supposedly ‘pro-Punjabi’ economic maneuvers in Sindh and felt the need to have their own political outfit. MQM was the result.
Smokers’ Corner: MQM: the missing link - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
Well, in the end thanks to establishment for making MQM more stronger and stronger to putting their Forced temporary solution which nothing but a sand of wall.
 
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Though it's an lit old article but worth a lot to read Karachi and it's politics and reasons MQM emerge, Karachi need a political solution as problems laying there are genuine and can't solve by force to neglect it's voice. As much as PPP responsible the mess they created PMLN which dominating only a special place is same responsible the route cause mention in article. @Gazi and other karachiets and non karachiets ( mean not living there )
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The most common account of the formation of the Muttahida (originally Mohajir) Qaumi Movement (MQM) involves claims that it was a party conceived in 1984 by the military dictatorship of General Ziaul Haq as a way to counterbalance the influence of certain political forces in Sindh. However, there is precious little clarity on the part of those political historians who toe this claim.

The Jamat-i-Islami (JI) was the first party to assert that the Zia regime had ‘created MQM’ to sideline JI’s influence in Karachi, even though between 1977 and 1984, the JI was openly supporting Zia. In the late 1980s, Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) insisted that the MQM had been formed by Pakistan’s intelligence agencies to curb the PPP in Sindh, whereas Sindhi nationalist parties were of the view that MQM came into being at the behest of the Zia regime because of the way Sindhi nationalists had protested during the violent anti-Zia MRD movement in Sindh in 1983.

Nevertheless, if one were to summarise the collective thesis on the subject by academics who have written extensively on the MQM – such as Muhammad Wasim, Laurent Gayer and Oskar Vaarkaik – one can suggest that, though, there was some involvement of Zia’s agencies in the formation of the MQM, this experiment soon backfired when the MQM quickly spun out of the agencies’ orbit and became an aggressively independent entity.

The MQM’s arrival was not simply about a Mohajir-centric student organisation (APMSO) evolving into a mainstream political party born out of political and economic frustrations of Mohajirs. One can treat this as an immediate historical snippet, but it is certainly not the complete story. Academics specialising in the politics of Sindh, such as Amir Ali Chandio and Dr Tanvir Tahir, trace back the formation of the political Mohajir ethnicity way back to the 1960s.

Along with Punjabis, Mohajirs dominated Pakistan’s initial ruling and economic elite and thus both these communities continued to invest their political support in either federalist or religious parties or in military dictatorships. Even those Mohajirs and Punjabis who joined outfits led by Sindhi, Pashtun, Bengali and Baloch nationalists (such as the National Awami Party (NAP), were largely part of the NAP’s Marxist wing that wanted to eschew politics of ethnicity and work towards a bourgeoisie-led socialist proletarian revolution.

But by the late 1960s, much of the country’s leftist tendencies were absorbed by the emergent PPP, and thus progressive non-Punjabi and non-Mohajir nationalists became more exclusivist. Consequently, the first ever demand to separate Karachi from Sindh (as a Mohajir-dominated province), actually came from an influential faction of the National Students Federation (NSF) that was associated with the NAP.

In 1969 Amir H. Kazmi, the head of his own faction of the Marxist NSF, was the first to raise the banner of Mohajir nationalism.

But few Mohajirs took the notion seriously, as they were still firmly imbedded in the concept of federalism and (like Punjabis) repulsed by ethnic nationalism. But as most of the left-leaning Punjabi and Sindhi intelligentsia and working classes and peasants invested their support in the federalist PPP, Mohajirs stuck to continue backing the equally federalist Islamic parties.

By the late 1960s Mohajirs had already begun to be dislodged from the Punjab-dominated ruling and economic elite with the gradual entry of the dictator Ayub-Khan-initiated entrance of the hardworking Pashtuns in the cherished fold. The rise of the PPP led by Z A Bhutto further added to the sense of dread rising amongst Mohajirs. This erupted in the shape of 1972 ‘language riots’ in Karachi when the Bhutto regime reintroduced Sindhi in educational institutions and Mohajirs saw this as ‘an attack on Urdu.’

The aftermath of the riots saw the formation of a city government movement (CGM). Studded with Mohajir intellectuals, former Karachi-based leftist student leaders and some businessmen, it again called for Karachi to be separated from Sindh.

This movement too failed to take off until the 1978 formation of Altaf Hussain’s APMSO. Ironically, Hussain, a former sympathiser of the JI, conceived his student outfit as a secular Mohajir organisation radically opposed to religious parties (which he accused of exploiting Mohajirs’ patriotism ‘to fatten Punjab’s political-economic hegemony’). In this he was bitterly opposed by JI’s student wing, the Islami Jamiat Tuleba (IJT).

The much overlooked reason behind the APMSO’s evolution into MQM is an economic one. According to famous Sindhi scholar, Ibrahim Joyo, ‘Punjabi economic hegemony’ increased immensely in Sindh during the dictatorship of Ziaul Haq. This situation had a negative impact on Karachi’s leading business communities (Memons, Gujaratis and other non-Punjabi business outfits). In such a situation these communities formed the Maha Sindh (MS) — an organisation set up to protect the interests of Karachi’s Memon, Gujarati and Mohajir businessmen and traders.

According to celebrated Sindhi intellectual Khaliq Junejo, the MS then encouraged and financed the formation of a ‘street-strong’ Karachi-based party: the MQM. It can be argued that it is this aspect of the MQM’s formation that sometimes gets mistaken into meaning that the party came about with the help of the Zia regime. This is so because the business communities in Karachi (stung by Bhutto’s nationalisation policies) were anti-Bhutto and had hailed his overthrow by Zia in 1977.

But by the early 1980s, they had been deluded by Zia’s supposedly ‘pro-Punjabi’ economic maneuvers in Sindh and felt the need to have their own political outfit. MQM was the result.
Smokers’ Corner: MQM: the missing link - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
Well, in the end thanks to establishment for making MQM more stronger and stronger to putting their Forced temporary solution which nothing but a sand of wall.

I respect NFP but on this I disagree.

The only link missing in case of hard core MQM is the link to brain.

Sorry to say.
 
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I respect NFP but on this I disagree.

The only link missing in case of hard core MQM is the link to brain.

Sorry to say.
Just Answer me a simple Question Which City needs Metro the most in Pakistan???

Karachi, Lahore or Rawalpindi/Islamabad
 
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I respect NFP but on this I disagree.

The only link missing in case of hard core MQM is the link to brain.

Sorry to say.
Ao Fauji pahh I didn't quote you but was accepting you:smile: any part to discuss of article?aate sath hi aap personal ho Gaye the thing you advices to other doing by yourself.
 
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Just Answer me a simple Question Which City needs Metro the most in Pakistan???

Karachi, Lahore or Rawalpindi/Islamabad

Which city destroyed with its own hand, its own mass transit system?

Karachi, Lahore, or Pindi. ?

Ao Fauji pahh I didn't quote you but was accepting you:smile: any part to discuss of article?aate sath hi aap personal ho Gaye the thing you advices to other doing by yourself.

Kuru bhai

I'll be personal if I insult you as one.

Criticizing MQM aka party is not getting personal. Unless Altaf Bhai is posting on PDF as Kuru bhai.

If that is the case, I mean you are Altaf bhai Aaaloo goll guppa, then please let me know.

Thank you.
 
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Which city destroyed with its own hand, its own mass transit system?

Karachi, Lahore, or Pindi. ?



Kuru bhai

I'll be personal if I insult you as one.

Criticizing MQM aka party is not getting personal. Unless Altaf Bhai is posting on PDF as Kuru bhai.

If that is the case, I mean you are Altaf bhai Aaaloo goll guppa, then please let me know.

Thank you.
Fauji pahh this thread is not about AH the points NFP talking are the issues which lead to emerge MQM.
 
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Which city destroyed with its own hand, its own mass transit system?

Karachi, Lahore, or Pindi. ?

But when did Karachi ever had Karachi to govern? Karachi has always, always been governed by interior Sindh and thus the result.
 
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I was reading this book on Karachi Karachi: Ordered Disorder and the Struggle for the City: Amazon.co.uk: Laurent Gayer: 9781849043113: Books, but only made it half way through and couldn't read up further because of work related issues.....
I don't recall myself reading anything about mqm being created solely by the Agencies or the govt....instead APMSO emerged to counterbalance the diverse forces in karachi, as there were many players in the city....the influence of Sindi feudal lords had to be countered too....i think i better start reading the book again....it was a good one
Though it's an lit old article but worth a lot to read Karachi and it's politics and reasons MQM emerge, Karachi need a political solution as problems laying there are genuine and can't solve by force to neglect it's voice. As much as PPP responsible the mess they created PMLN which dominating only a special place is same responsible the route cause mention in article. @Gazi and other karachiets and non karachiets ( mean not living there )
.....
The most common account of the formation of the Muttahida (originally Mohajir) Qaumi Movement (MQM) involves claims that it was a party conceived in 1984 by the military dictatorship of General Ziaul Haq as a way to counterbalance the influence of certain political forces in Sindh. However, there is precious little clarity on the part of those political historians who toe this claim.

The Jamat-i-Islami (JI) was the first party to assert that the Zia regime had ‘created MQM’ to sideline JI’s influence in Karachi, even though between 1977 and 1984, the JI was openly supporting Zia. In the late 1980s, Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) insisted that the MQM had been formed by Pakistan’s intelligence agencies to curb the PPP in Sindh, whereas Sindhi nationalist parties were of the view that MQM came into being at the behest of the Zia regime because of the way Sindhi nationalists had protested during the violent anti-Zia MRD movement in Sindh in 1983.

Nevertheless, if one were to summarise the collective thesis on the subject by academics who have written extensively on the MQM – such as Muhammad Wasim, Laurent Gayer and Oskar Vaarkaik – one can suggest that, though, there was some involvement of Zia’s agencies in the formation of the MQM, this experiment soon backfired when the MQM quickly spun out of the agencies’ orbit and became an aggressively independent entity.

The MQM’s arrival was not simply about a Mohajir-centric student organisation (APMSO) evolving into a mainstream political party born out of political and economic frustrations of Mohajirs. One can treat this as an immediate historical snippet, but it is certainly not the complete story. Academics specialising in the politics of Sindh, such as Amir Ali Chandio and Dr Tanvir Tahir, trace back the formation of the political Mohajir ethnicity way back to the 1960s.

Along with Punjabis, Mohajirs dominated Pakistan’s initial ruling and economic elite and thus both these communities continued to invest their political support in either federalist or religious parties or in military dictatorships. Even those Mohajirs and Punjabis who joined outfits led by Sindhi, Pashtun, Bengali and Baloch nationalists (such as the National Awami Party (NAP), were largely part of the NAP’s Marxist wing that wanted to eschew politics of ethnicity and work towards a bourgeoisie-led socialist proletarian revolution.

But by the late 1960s, much of the country’s leftist tendencies were absorbed by the emergent PPP, and thus progressive non-Punjabi and non-Mohajir nationalists became more exclusivist. Consequently, the first ever demand to separate Karachi from Sindh (as a Mohajir-dominated province), actually came from an influential faction of the National Students Federation (NSF) that was associated with the NAP.

In 1969 Amir H. Kazmi, the head of his own faction of the Marxist NSF, was the first to raise the banner of Mohajir nationalism.

But few Mohajirs took the notion seriously, as they were still firmly imbedded in the concept of federalism and (like Punjabis) repulsed by ethnic nationalism. But as most of the left-leaning Punjabi and Sindhi intelligentsia and working classes and peasants invested their support in the federalist PPP, Mohajirs stuck to continue backing the equally federalist Islamic parties.

By the late 1960s Mohajirs had already begun to be dislodged from the Punjab-dominated ruling and economic elite with the gradual entry of the dictator Ayub-Khan-initiated entrance of the hardworking Pashtuns in the cherished fold. The rise of the PPP led by Z A Bhutto further added to the sense of dread rising amongst Mohajirs. This erupted in the shape of 1972 ‘language riots’ in Karachi when the Bhutto regime reintroduced Sindhi in educational institutions and Mohajirs saw this as ‘an attack on Urdu.’

The aftermath of the riots saw the formation of a city government movement (CGM). Studded with Mohajir intellectuals, former Karachi-based leftist student leaders and some businessmen, it again called for Karachi to be separated from Sindh.

This movement too failed to take off until the 1978 formation of Altaf Hussain’s APMSO. Ironically, Hussain, a former sympathiser of the JI, conceived his student outfit as a secular Mohajir organisation radically opposed to religious parties (which he accused of exploiting Mohajirs’ patriotism ‘to fatten Punjab’s political-economic hegemony’). In this he was bitterly opposed by JI’s student wing, the Islami Jamiat Tuleba (IJT).

The much overlooked reason behind the APMSO’s evolution into MQM is an economic one. According to famous Sindhi scholar, Ibrahim Joyo, ‘Punjabi economic hegemony’ increased immensely in Sindh during the dictatorship of Ziaul Haq. This situation had a negative impact on Karachi’s leading business communities (Memons, Gujaratis and other non-Punjabi business outfits). In such a situation these communities formed the Maha Sindh (MS) — an organisation set up to protect the interests of Karachi’s Memon, Gujarati and Mohajir businessmen and traders.

According to celebrated Sindhi intellectual Khaliq Junejo, the MS then encouraged and financed the formation of a ‘street-strong’ Karachi-based party: the MQM. It can be argued that it is this aspect of the MQM’s formation that sometimes gets mistaken into meaning that the party came about with the help of the Zia regime. This is so because the business communities in Karachi (stung by Bhutto’s nationalisation policies) were anti-Bhutto and had hailed his overthrow by Zia in 1977.

But by the early 1980s, they had been deluded by Zia’s supposedly ‘pro-Punjabi’ economic maneuvers in Sindh and felt the need to have their own political outfit. MQM was the result.
Smokers’ Corner: MQM: the missing link - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
Well, in the end thanks to establishment for making MQM more stronger and stronger to putting their Forced temporary solution which nothing but a sand of wall.
 
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But when did Karachi ever had Karachi to govern? Karachi has always, always been governed by interior Sindh and thus the result.

Please do not tell lies here. Us Karachites have had all our hands an our feet in the government both federal and provincial.

urdu speakers have held pretty much all big name small name government posts.

Heck it is our gad given right to rule Pakistan.

How on earth anyone else dare challenging us. We will destroy him using one of the 3 Bs.

--- Bori
-- Bhatta
-- Budboo

Fauji pahh this thread is not about AH the points NFP talking are the issues which lead to emerge MQM.

NFP is an idiot unless he could prove any of the issues listed as genuine.
 
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I was reading this book on Karachi Karachi: Ordered Disorder and the Struggle for the City: Amazon.co.uk: Laurent Gayer: 9781849043113: Books, but only made it half way through and couldn't read up further because of work related issues.....
I don't recall myself reading anything about mqm being created solely by the Agencies or the govt....instead APMSO emerged to counterbalance the diverse forces in karachi, as there were many players in the city....the influence of Sindi feudal lords had to be countered too....i think i better start reading the book again....it was a good one
Thanks and love to read the book you mention try it in free days! I'm not taking side of MQM here my more concern is what reasons and issues been so far we are in current mess getting worse day by day.

Please do not tell lies here. Us Karachites have had all our hands an our feet in the government both federal and provincial.

urdu speakers have held pretty much all big name small name government posts.

Heck it is our gad given right to rule Pakistan.

How on earth anyone else dare challenging us. We will destroy him using one of the 3 Bs.

--- Bori
-- Bhatta
-- Budboo



NFP is an idiot unless he could prove any of the issues listed as genuine.
One hand you respect him mean inspired by him other hand you saying he is idiot, lagta hai akhri roza kuch ziyada lagg raha hai, any way if you couldn't find anything to discuss from the article than spare me please of your 24/7=365 funny logics. Peace
 
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Please do not tell lies here. Us Karachites have had all our hands an our feet in the government both federal and provincial.

urdu speakers have held pretty much all big name small name government posts.

Heck it is our gad given right to rule Pakistan.

I have confidence that you shouldn't use the word 'us' here as you are neither a Karachiite nor from an Urdu speaking community. The racism is too extreme for either to be fact.

There is hardly any representation in the Bureaucracy of Urdu speaking community, the Urban quota too has been taken up by the interiors Sindhis, with dual domiciles. And Karachi has never had a 'Urdu' speaking CM. With this, I am hoping that I will not have to educate you on the whole Political system and who actually wields the power on Bureaucracy and LEAs.


How on earth anyone else dare challenging us. We will destroy him using one of the 3 Bs.

--- Bori
-- Bhatta
-- Budboo

Almost 12k posts and such nonsense. It is hard to imagine that someone could be here so long and still post absolute BS.

The Bori, that is associated with MQM, is well known to be the introduced by the Rangers/Police hit teams who were engaged in mass ethnic cleansing in Karachi during the operations. Similarly as the 'masq shuda lash' is a typical signature of the agencies hits in Baluchistan. They are meant 2 deliver twice the fear, 1 is of the actual act of execution and the 2nd of the systematic means of protected hit squads, free to do anything.

Bhatta has been in the system since the 1970's ever since the word Bhutto appeared on the horizon. When you walk into a Government Office, do you have to pay bhatta to get the service done or does it gets done on merit?

The above is quite sufficient proof how pathetic your knowledge of the whole system is, and your attitude towards a whole community is disgraceful.
 
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But when did Karachi ever had Karachi to govern? Karachi has always, always been governed by interior Sindh and thus the result.

This statement holds as much truth as stating earth is flat, being a part of government and literally controlling Karachi for the better part of almost 30 years still this claim is mind boggling.
 
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This statement holds as much truth as stating earth is flat, being a part of government and literally controlling Karachi for the better part of almost 30 years still this claim is mind boggling.

Probably not a very good idea engaging in adult conversations.....you might end up boggled out of a mind!!
 
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Just Answer me a simple Question Which City needs Metro the most in Pakistan???

Karachi, Lahore or Rawalpindi/Islamabad
Tum logo ko Mazloom bannay ka bara khabt hai.
O bhai lahore and pindi / islamabad metro PUNJAB PROVINCIAL GOVT ny banai hai. tum b bana lo, kis ne roka hai ?
 
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