Modi's bravado ups the ante in India-Pakistan fighting

[Kompromat]

Why do i need a visa when i can enter China from Khunjarab pass just on my CNIC. I don't even need a passport.

 

[ito]

The Chinese government is always giving statements of diplomatic support to Pakistan, and vice versa.

If you want specific examples then look for it yourself, you do know how to use a search engine I presume.

surprised that you don't understand your government. now tell me what was chinese government reaction on indo-pak loc firing...nothing.

 

[DingDong]

Pakistan is the cannon fodder in this US and Chinese geopolitical game. Pakistan's relevance lies in it's position between South Asia and Middle East. As far as India is concerned, Pakistan has burned itself every time it has tried something adventurous, but wishes for more.

 

[Iggy]

@seiko

Go on a rampage against your own editorials which plainly suggest what i've stated above. India has no such agreement with China. It doesn't resort to firing on China because PLA will smash your Army into bits.

Please, then why Chinese are hesitant shooting at us.. All they do is build some tent and make their *** froze upon those hills.. After that they will go back.. We both know that any one can start a shooting out there but why are they restraining themselves??

Balance of power both in China-India, India-Pakistan calculus is AGAINST India.

Again, why are you comparing yourself with China in every conflict.. You really think they will come to help you even now?? Didnt you learn anything from past??

Most Indians seek refuge in thought of their numarical superiority vis-a-vis Pakistan. What they don't want to hear is that their 'tactical firepower utility' towards Pakistan starts ABOVE its set threshold of conventional detterence against China.

In other words, in any war, Pakistan can sustain and maintain its deterrence depth for our capacity of sustaining our asset depletion ratio vis-a-vis India is higher as per our official threat matrix.

We hear all this bravado talk many times but after 4 wars, Kashmir is still with us and your country divided into two tells you something about tactical power utility of yours.. doesnt it? China was bordering us on the last 3 wars also, still doesn't rise a finger against us even after US asked them to move its military to border.. Its better you think of taking care of yourself rather than hoping that XYZ country comes to help you..

India is restrained as it would have to fight Pakistan ABOVE its own conventional deterrence against China which means its asset depletion tolerance is lower than Pakistan which explains why Indian brass have ALWAYS resorted to a 'Blitzkreigh' doctrine against Pakistan...all of which have been spectacular failures due to dynamics stated above,

best regards

@Chinese-Dragon

Do read about Operation Polo, Grand Slam, 1971 and Kargil wars.. We choose to attack you after you started attacking us..As I told, we were at war when China was your greatest ally and was sharing a border with us. They never cared to move a soldier to the border while you were under attack.. It is foolishness that you think they will come to help us..They never came and they wont came in future too..

The Chinese government is always giving statements of diplomatic support to Pakistan, and vice versa.

If you want specific examples then look for it yourself, you do know how to use a search engine I presume.

Okay..

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Please, then why Chinese are hesitant shooting at us.. All they do is build some tent and make their *** froze upon those hills.. After that they will go back.. We both know that any one can start a shooting out there but why are they restraining themselves??

Because our policy is "China's peaceful rise".

Note that we haven't had cross-border bloodshed with any of our neighbors over the past 30 years. Compare that to India's bloody borders with Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Anyway, haven't you been reading my posts, or the Reuters source? Or even the thread title?

It's Modi's "new aggressive posture" (from Reuters) that is inflaming India's border issues with Pakistan and China.

Wars happen accidentally all the time, especially when one side tries to be especially assertive. Someone is going to make a mistake, an accident, or maybe something deliberate and things can spiral out of control very fast on the border.

 

[PoKeMon]

Why do i need a visa when i can enter China from Khunjarab pass just on my CNIC. I don't even need a passport.

Nice spirit, typical ones.

Now since you admitted, please revert that negative rating for quoting the truth.

 

[Chakram Indian]

(Reuters) - To judge from the shrill outrage of India's TV news channels, the past week's bloody clashes along the border dividing Kashmir are all Pakistan's fault: one network has been plugging the Twitter hashtag #PakBorderDare.

However, military officers in both countries and officials in New Delhi say the violence that has killed nearly 20 civilians escalated because of a more assertive Indian posture under the new government of nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

good na ?

whats wrong with assertive posture and response and policies ?

 

[ito]

Because our policy is "China's peaceful rise".

Note that we haven't had cross-border bloodshed with any of our neighbors over the past 30 years. Compare that to India's bloody borders with Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Anyway, haven't you been reading my posts, or the Reuters source? Or even the thread title?

It's Modi's "new aggressive posture" (from Reuters) that is inflaming India's border issues with Pakistan and China.

Wars happen accidentally all the time, especially when one side tries to be especially assertive. Someone is going to make a mistake, an accident, or maybe something deliberate and things can spiral out of control very fast on the border.

when there is no bloodshed, give credit to both the parties.

modi is not aggressive towards china. modi is as business centric as you can get. ask your president Xi Jinping

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[AUSTERLITZ]

Indians as usual are making lots of noise from both ends but in reality Indians are wimps , everyone knows , allow me to post some pictures here about the everyday Indian and rest assured there will be 10 fold increase in burning

Indians have basically bitten off more than what they could chew over the past decade while hiding under the scrotum of america

You know thats what ayub khan said in 1965 when he sent in his boys to take kashmir.
''Hindu morale won't stand a couple of hard blows at the right time and place''.Then he ended up defending lahore instead of giving his victory speech at lalchowk,srinagar.

In 1971 General niazi bragged repeatedly to nixon how his superior martial race would pound the inferior wimpy indians.And then he went did something like this.


As for the wimpy indians.

I mean this must be the single most embarassing stamp in the history of any country ever.

So better let us not discuss the virtues and vices of the wimpy indians and the martial race and focus on the issue which is the senseless violence on the border which is slaughtering civilians on both sides for absolutely no strategic gain and dick comparisons.

 

[Chakram Indian]

(Reuters) -

"The message we have been given from the prime minister's office is very clear and precise," said a senior Indian Home Ministry official. "The prime minister's office has instructed us to ensure that Pakistan suffers deep and heavy losses."


Modi's robust approach towards Pakistan, supporters say, is aimed at emphasising India's superior strength and making Pakistan's military think twice before firing across the border.

It is a strategy he also used to stand up to India's larger neighbour, China, during a border standoff between several hundred Indian and Chinese troops on the Tibetan plateau that coincided with President Xi Jinping's visit to New Delhi last month.

Good should have been done long time ago

it is not aimed at emphasising indias superior strenght but to warn that our patience is running thin - we have put up with tis nonsense for too long

 

[Iggy]

Because our policy is "China's peaceful rise".

I love the bolded part.. If this is your peaceful rise, then god help us all..

Note that we haven't had cross-border bloodshed with any of our neighbors over the past 30 years. Compare that to India's bloody borders with Pakistan and Bangladesh.

You didnt had the capability or resources to attack any of the neighbors for the last 30 years. Remember most of your neighbors were economically powerful than you and some are close allies of USA.. You were nowhere near on taking on US or Russia at that time. Also you needed support from world nations to enter WTO . Once you had the capability your country become a nuicense to every country who share your border..

Anyway, haven't you been reading my posts, or the Reuters source? Or even the thread title?

It's Modi's "new aggressive posture" (from Reuters) that is inflaming India's border issues with Pakistan and China.

Tell me something, Did China and Pakistan try to infiltrate our border only after Modi came to power? In past too there were border skirmishes between India and China and also with Pakistan.. Even if Modi was not there.. Pakistan do fire at us on border for various reasons..

Wars happen accidentally all the time, especially when one side tries to be especially assertive. Someone is going to make a mistake, an accident, or maybe something deliberate and things can spiral out of control very fast on the border

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With all these reasons above, why there were not a single bullet being fired in India China border.. Even in the video shows both countries soldiers didn't even bothered to draw their weapons,..

 

[SledgeHammer]

Seems like our theory was right, even military officers from both countries agree on it:


It is in fact "Modi's more assertive posture" that is triggering an increase in border incidents with both China and Pakistan.

So despite the finger pointing, it's actually coming from their end.

And it seems they miscalculated, in both cases.

The 'calculation' is simple, India will not 'let it go' anymore, Pakistan started it first this time also, and Pakistani members here rejoiced for first few days asking "Where is Modi now"; and now they are complaining about Indian aggression, hilarious.

Same goes for China also, China was nibbling away Indian territory silently with frequent incursions, but not anymore.

Btw, this is a permanent stand of India, at least as long as BJP is in power (and BJP is likely to be in power for quite some time), and our neighbours are free to be frustrated or happy about it.

 

[Hiptullha]

Tell me something, Did China and Pakistan try to infiltrate our border only after Modi came to power? In past too there were border skirmishes between India and China and also with Pakistan.. Even if Modi was not there.. Pakistan do fire at us on border for various reasons..

Haha parroting the same paranoia-filled garbage spewed by your media.
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The 'calculation' is simple, India will not 'let it go' anymore, Pakistan started it first this time also, and Pakistani members here rejoiced for first few days asking "Where is Modi now"; and now they are complaining about Indian aggression, hilarious.

Same goes for China also, China was nibbling away Indian territory silently with frequent incursions, but not anymore.

Btw, this is a permanent stand of India, at least as long as BJP is in power (and BJP is likely to be in power for quite some time), and our neighbours are free to be frustrated or happy about it.

You're speaking of this as if India was not an aggressive nation itself pre-Modi. India is no where near the victim in this conflict. Quit pretending Big Bad China and terrorist nation Pakistan were bullying little baby India.

 

[IBRIS]

And it seems they miscalculated, in both cases.

Well guns are silent now. What are they afraid of now. BTW they know they are only going to get stomped. Modi government have had shut lot of mouths on our eastern and western borders. Forces are free to retaliate at their own will is making Pakistani posters use abusive language to defuse their frustration. I can understand how I'll prepared pakistan is to indulge in a conflict they can ill afford.

 

[Iggy]

Haha parroting the same paranoia-filled garbage spewed by your media.
Indian army mistakes planets for 'Chinese spy drones' - Gadgets and Tech - Life and Style - The Independent

Nothing to do with topic in hand.. There is already a discussion about it in the same forum.. Members there already clarified on the issue.. Do read it..