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Modi's bravado ups the ante in India-Pakistan fighting

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(Reuters) - To judge from the shrill outrage of India's TV news channels, the past week's bloody clashes along the border dividing Kashmir are all Pakistan's fault: one network has been plugging the Twitter hashtag #PakBorderDare.

However, military officers in both countries and officials in New Delhi say the violence that has killed nearly 20 civilians escalated because of a more assertive Indian posture under the new government of nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

"The message we have been given from the prime minister's office is very clear and precise," said a senior Indian Home Ministry official. "The prime minister's office has instructed us to ensure that Pakistan suffers deep and heavy losses."

In his first extensive comments on the violence, Modi told a political rally on Thursday - when 1,000 Indian mortars rained across into Pakistan - that "it is the enemy that is screaming".

"The enemy has realised that times have changed and their old habits will not be tolerated," he said.

The exchange of mortar and gunfire across a populated border area of Jammu, in the lowlands of Kashmir, has been India's most serious brush with Pakistan in a decade.

Almost 20,000 Indian civilians have fled their homes to escape the fighting, taking refuge in schools and relief camps.

The guns fell quiet on Friday, hours before the Nobel committee named an Indian child rights crusader Kailash Satyarthi and Pakistan's teenage education activist Malala Yousafzai as this year's Peace Prize winners. But heavy firing resumed on Saturday And continued into the early hours of Sunday.

Modi's robust approach towards Pakistan, supporters say, is aimed at emphasising India's superior strength and making Pakistan's military think twice before firing across the border.

It is a strategy he also used to stand up to India's larger neighbour, China, during a border standoff between several hundred Indian and Chinese troops on the Tibetan plateau that coincided with President Xi Jinping's visit to New Delhi last month.

But the new stance risks more violence in the Himalayan region of Kashmir, already one of the world's most volatile fault lines, and has eroded a border truce that has largely held between India and Pakistan since 2003.

The nuclear-armed rivals have fought two of their three wars since independence in 1947 over Kashmir, which is divided between them and claimed in full by both.

Since Modi's election victory in May, military commanders have been encouraged to step up border patrols and retaliate with more force if they come under attack. New Delhi has insisted there can be no talks with Pakistan unless it ends shootings and pushing militants into the Indian side of Kashmir.

"This is what we feared would happen if Modi came to power," said Ikram Sehgal, a former Pakistani military officer and chairman of one of the country's largest security companies.

"This could easily escalate into something that won't be good for Pakistan or India."



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India may be gambling that Pakistan can ill afford to inflame hostilities in Kashmir while its army is engaged in a full-blown offensive against jihadi militants close to Afghanistan.

But the stakes are also high for India.

An editorial in the Indian Express on Friday called for cooler heads, saying further escalation would damage India's reputation as a responsible nation and attractive investment destination, and could rekindle a separatist insurgency on its side of Kashmir.Officials say India's new policy is being orchestrated by Ajit Doval, the country's national security adviser, a decorated former intelligence official renowned for his role in dangerous counter-insurgency missions. He has long advocated tough action against Pakistan-based militant groups.In conversations with Reuters as head of a right-wing think tank in New Delhi before he joined the new government, Doval said India must lay down core security policies, one of which was "zero tolerance" for acts of violence.

In August, after days of cross-border firing between India and Pakistan, Doval attended a meeting at the Home Ministry along with the head of the para-military Border Security Force (BSF) and a decision was taken to give a free hand to the ground commanders in Jammu, a top security official in the region told Reuters. Until then, the BSF, which guards the Jammu section of the border with Pakistan, had complained that instructions on how to respond to provocations were unclear.

"It is a very tough stand that our top bosses want us to take against Pakistan and the tone is very different from the previous government," said the Home Ministry official.

"The previous government indulged in lip service. Publicly the former home and defence minister would showcase an assertive stand against Pakistan but actually neither BSF nor the army was given a free hand."

A spokesman for India's defence ministry did not respond to requests for comments.Pakistani military leaders say they have been taken aback by the level of aggression of Indian forces over the last week.

At a time when the Pakistan army is combating militants in the tribal areas in its northwest they do not want the distraction of battling India on its eastern flank, they said."India is deliberately putting pressure on Pakistani security forces by opening this new front," said a senior Pakistani military official posted on the border. "The message from India is clear: 'We will teach you a lesson.'"Indians in the border areas of Kashmir, who have lived through decades of cross-border firing, said they themselves had noticed a change in tactics by the Indian forces. "Pakistan fires one, our boys fire six back," said Atma Ram, 71, who was standing about 300 metres (yards) from the electrified fence that separates the two countries in the Suchetgarh area near Jammu. "They are giving a response we should have given before."



(Additional reporting by Sanjeev Miglani in ARNIA, India and by Fayaz Bukhari in SRINAGAR, India; Writing by Andrew MacAskill; Editing by John Chalmers, Frank Jack Daniel and Raju Gopalakrishnan)
Modi's bravado ups the ante in India-Pakistan fighting | Reuters
 
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Why would Pakistan start firing in the first place? Why would terrorists be pushed in the first place?
 
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Modi is making our work easy.

*He can't afford a war

*Cant disappoint his Hindutva votebank whom he promises Pakistani blood

*Can't win a border skirmish

*Cant avoid Indian casualties

*Pakistan has and will keep quiet while giving a befitting military response.

*No media attention goes onto us because all of it is on India. So we can get away with relentless bombardment of Indian side.

*We've already displaced thousands whom now he has to relocate.

*The more bak bak he does on media plays in our favour since he pulled the plug on negotiations and stands on defensive.

India is being run by 'geniuses'. Lets keep em at that.
 
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"The previous government indulged in lip service. Publicly the former home and defence minister would showcase an assertive stand against Pakistan but actually neither BSF nor the army was given a free hand."
Even worse...then Indian govt was willing to go out of it's way to absolve Pak army of any wrong doings! How can one forget that idiotic statement by AK Antony about the beheaded Indian soldiers!
 
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Badly Busted!

Ikram Sehgal never said anything like that LOLZzzzzzzz provide evidence proof this statement...

"This is what we feared would happen if Modi came to power"

Bc chutyoon ke tarhan pichlay 10 din sa jis kisam ke bakwaas posts ki ja rahe hain dont know kistarhan admins mods allow kar rahay ahin.. hamnay 50 posts ura deen 5 kilometer kay radius may bc dunya ke koon c 50 military posts hain jo 5 even 10 even kilometer kay radius may banaye jati hain phr kabhe hamnay unko 500 maardiye aur hamaray 1 mara bc is kisam ke chutyoon wali Indian media reports ... telegraph ka link day day kar bc poray foran ke maa behan eek kardi hey aur telegraph kay link ka jo article hey woh likh rakha hey Indian Delhi kay eek chawal nay LOL.... aur eek goray nay jo Delhi may station hey.... phir kaha kay Pakistan kay paas ammo khatam hogaya hey aur woh dar gaye hain... bc jo dar gaya hey woh subha say phir shuru hogaya hey firing karna... akeer he koi chutya reporting as usual ***** media kiiye ja raha hai .. frustration nikali ja raheh ey jo Chini har 4 din baad andar ghuns kar ami apa eek kartay hain jab India ke roonay wali halat hojati hey phir woh uth kar wapis jatay hain phir 4 din baad phir andar akar bhaeet jatay hian ladak may aur abhe tak pichlay 10 saal may sewaye ham ye kardengay woh kardeengay L ka kuch kya hey 2002 - 2014 12 saal hogaye hain bas batain chood chood kar apni dhakan koom ko koosh rakha huwa hey lolz... not a single International independent source post Pakistan India LOC violation news with Indian Statistics LOLZzzzzzzzz

enuff such **** posts on PDF....
 
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Modi is making our work easy.

*He can't afford a war

Afford?

Pakistan FOREX = 8 billion versus India's 300...
And forgot to tell you - Top up your CNG failing stock. Autoricksha drivers
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are cursing ..
Pay your IMF/WB/ADB pending amount....
Before thinking of fav war against India..

Keep on ranting...
 
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Modi is making our work easy.

*He can't afford a war

*Cant disappoint his Hindutva votebank whom he promises Pakistani blood

*Can't win a border skirmish

*Cant avoid Indian casualties

*Pakistan has and will keep quiet while giving a befitting military response.

*No media attention goes onto us because all of it is on India. So we can get away with relentless bombardment of Indian side.

*We've already displaced thousands whom now he has to relocate.

*The more bak bak he does on media plays in our favour since he pulled the plug on negotiations and stands on defensive.

India is being run by 'geniuses'. Lets keep em at that.
you can apply same to Pakistan. .. there is no chance for Pakistan to win the skirmish. . and it can't afford any war with India... just Pakistan want a situation to divert people by escalating JK ... and trying it's best to get international community attention. .
 
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Modi is making our work easy.

*He can't afford a war

*Cant disappoint his Hindutva votebank whom he promises Pakistani blood

*Can't win a border skirmish

*Cant avoid Indian casualties

*Pakistan has and will keep quiet while giving a befitting military response.

*No media attention goes onto us because all of it is on India. So we can get away with relentless bombardment of Indian side.

*We've already displaced thousands whom now he has to relocate.

*The more bak bak he does on media plays in our favour since he pulled the plug on negotiations and stands on defensive.

India is being run by 'geniuses'. Lets keep em at that.

Seems like our theory was right, even military officers from both countries agree on it:

However, military officers in both countries and officials in New Delhi say the violence that has killed nearly 20 civilians escalated because of a more assertive Indian posture under the new government of nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

It is in fact "Modi's more assertive posture" that is triggering an increase in border incidents with both China and Pakistan.

So despite the finger pointing, it's actually coming from their end. :P

And it seems they miscalculated, in both cases.
 
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Its pathetic that the Congress Party is trying to score political points even during this tension. In our local channel a Congress member said that Indo-Pak relations was excellent during the UPA term so much so that Pakistan named a school after Manmohan Singh. By that theory, China will never attack India bcs we have Maoists.
 
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