‘Modi may engage with Pak.'

[Menace2Society]

Lets hold unilateral plebiscite in Khyber, Waziristan, Azad Kashmir, Balochistan, Sindh then talk about indian kashmir

Yes because children are being abducted and women being raped here all over.

These Afghans, my God they are lost.

 

[Maler]

Actually its Pakistan, which is desperate for peace with India now. A stable Pashtoon belt & Baluchistan is the primary requirement to develop Pakistan (Gwadar)-China industrial corridor and reap its economic benefits. Pakistan is seeing Pakistan-China industrial corridor as a huge potential and China might also indicated to Pakistan that Chinese companies might invest to develop it as industrial base to serve Central Asia and may be West Asia too.

 

[xyxmt]

Hamain yeh engagement na munzoor, wo pehli bevi ko bhi chore ke bhag gya tha

 

[Green Arrow]

Well sooner or later modi has to engage with Pakistan any way.

 

[A1Kaid]

Actually its Pakistan, which is desperate for peace with India now. A stable Pashtoon belt & Baluchistan is the primary requirement to develop Pakistan (Gwadar)-China industrial corridor and reap its economic benefits. Pakistan is seeing Pakistan-China industrial corridor as a huge potential and China might also indicated to Pakistan that Chinese companies might invest to develop it as industrial base to serve Central Asia and may be West Asia too.

Pakistan isn't desperate for peace with India, by "now" do you mean to admit that India was once desperate for peace with Pakistan? India realizes the strategic threat it is in by the Pakistan-China bilateral ties.

Lets hold unilateral plebiscite in Khyber, Waziristan, Azad Kashmir, Balochistan, Sindh then talk about indian kashmir

Those aren't disputed territories. Kashmir is internationally accepted as disputed territory, let's start with what we know.

 

[Maler]

Pakistan isn't desperate for peace with India, by "now" do you mean to admit that India was once desperate for peace with Pakistan? India realizes the strategic threat it is in by the Pakistan-China bilateral ties..

Yes, India was desperate for 60 years because India has interest in regional peace. But now India understand that its not a 'zero sum game'. For having peace in the region everyone in the region should have same desire for peace or India should 'Inspire' the rouge 'one' by using some unorthodox means.

 

[deckingraj]

Pakistan isn't desperate for peace with India, by "now" do you mean to admit that India was once desperate for peace with Pakistan? India realizes the strategic threat it is in by the Pakistan-China bilateral ties.

Nobody is desperate anywhere...Its funny when it comes to even a limited war b/w India and Pakistan then a nuclear war is threatened by opposite side and on other hand this all-weather friendship from decades is suddenly now making us nervous and desperate for peace?...In the age of nukes no friendship stands...

Those aren't disputed territories. Kashmir is internationally accepted as disputed territory, let's start with what we know.

Point is not about disputed territories. Point is about accepting people wish...just because territory is not disputed doesn't mean people there are any less significant that other areas. If it is not about people then and is about territory then India and Pakistan will decide the fate...no??

 

[karakoram]

Lets hold unilateral plebiscite in Khyber, Waziristan, Azad Kashmir, Balochistan, Sindh then talk about indian kashmir

@waz @Horus @Jungibaaz indian false flagger

 

[Abingdonboy]

No need for further dialog, just hold an internationally monitored plebiscite in Kashmir and be done with the issue. Otherwise both countries will remain in state of conflict.

Indian part of Kashmir has more soldiers than Kashmiris . clearly not the same case here.

I still do not understand why India does not allow an independence referendum to take place in Kashmir like the one happened in UK about Scotland. Let them decide and will settle this issue.

There is a difference between so called democracy and real democracy,learn the difference.

How about you actually read the UNSC resolution on this. The points stipulated for a plebiscite to take place in the state are this:

1) Pakistan withdraws ALL forces from Kashmir
2) India reduces it's forces in Kashmir to a number stipulate by third party that both sides will agree to

Until Pakistan enacts part one nothing more can be done on this matter, end of story. The ball is in Pakistan's court but neither you nor your government will admit this.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

Why so insecure? India is progressing rapidly, why would they want to go anywhere. They won't go anywhere. Kashmir is a very very unique situation.

The Kashmiris on your end may decide to stay with India. Good then at least the issue is settled.

Seriously speaking Indians need to understand that this is a reasonable request and Pak has nothing to gain out of it. Both India and Pakistan can put this cold war crap behind and really build the region.

There will never be peace then.

People die on LOC. You can never call yourself a developed nation when your BSF are getting drunk on duty and firing on a neighbour nation. Ridiculous thought process. You guys are backwards.

F**k South Asia, it is truly doomed.

Assuming that it is 'always' the drunken BSF men on duty firing across at the neighbors, how do you think it will stop even if we resolve Kashmir (or hand Kashmir over to you on a platter)? The BSF dudes will stop drinking all of a sudden?

If you are saying that violations at LOC will stop immediately after Kashmir issue is resolved, do you realize that it actually means you are admitting of violating LOC right now to force us to resolve the dispute?

There is a difference between so called democracy and real democracy,learn the difference.

Take Kashmir all you want, we will even throw in a few more states in the mix. But for heaven's sake, please don't hurt us by calling us a sham democracy! After all, it is more important for us to be called a real democratic nation than the national integrity itself.

 

[RescueRanger]

No Racist discussions on PDF Please! @DESERT FIGHTER @13 komaun @captainvancouver respect the forum rules please.

 

[doppelganger]

Kashmir is never going to come peacefully. The question one should be asking is what price are we willing to pay? India is not going to talk on Kashmir yet alone giving it.

You are a veteran sir, and therefore have cut very precisely through all the chest thumping and whining and pleading, to the unvarnished naked core.

Which is, is Pakistan willing to die for Kashmir.

 

[WAJsal]

How about you actually read the UNSC resolution on this. The points stipulated for a plebiscite to take place in the state are this:

1) Pakistan withdraws ALL forces from Kashmir
2) India reduces it's forces in Kashmir to a number stipulate by third party that both sides will agree to

Until Pakistan enacts part one nothing more can be done on this matter, end of story. The ball is in Pakistan's court but neither you nor your government will admit this.

Do you ever think India will do,what it has to.?

 

[Abingdonboy]

Do you ever think India will do,what it has to.?

We can't know until Pakistan fulfils its part of the bargain, until it does India has no obligation to even think about doing anything. Like I have said- the ball is in Pakistan's court so stop crying about India this, India that, your government has intentionally lied to you for decades now, if they truly wanted a resolution to the Kashmir saga they would have followed through with their end of the resolution.

 

[WAJsal]

We can't know until Pakistan fulfils its part of the bargain, until it does India has no obligation to even think about doing anything. Like I have said- the ball is in Pakistan's court so stop crying about India this, India that, your government has intentionally lied to you for decades now, if they truly wanted a resolution to the Kashmir saga they would have followed through with their end of the resolution.

You idiot,there has to be a mutual understanding that India is willing to do its part,right now you guys wont even talk about it,how do you expect us to go on without India.?