Modi government is Congress plus a cow, says BJP leader Arun Shourie

[Star Wars]

More that the government had its best chance in the 1st year where people were more willing to give it a chance because that is what they had voted for- a change of functioning. The government will find it progressively harder to push deep reforms without considerable opposition & some attention getting paid to the outcry which might not have been the case very early on. The point is that it becomes harder, not that it cannot be done but this has been time wasted.

Too much is at risk in the Bihar election with the strategy now employed & as you say, it might depend n the outcome. However significant change to the RS (if BJP wins) will only start in 2016 and if they happen to do badly in Bihar, the push for reforms will simply lose traction, essentially undermining the mandate of 2014 because of state elections. My point was that we should have already got some tough reforms out of the way & maybe we would have seen a more major recovery happening which would have helped the government make its case.

Me along with several others states even before 2014 that reforms will be difficult. Even in first year it would not have been passed simply because they do not have the numbers in the RS. It would have been impossible. Congress and other opposition will not permit simply because any push on reforms will be a deathblow to their party irrespective of weather it was in the first or last year. on the contrary, reforms will get progressively easier, especially after 2016 when NDA gets high numbers in the RS. Win in BIhar is almost obvious and will set the stage for win in multiple other states.
MGB will not win in BIhar, it is impossible as of right now.

 

[Echo_419]

Please. I have enough knowledge on what you posted. Do you believe it was all about Kunal Ghosh and Madan Mitra when we talk about Sardha scam?

We need solid proof for that & as you can see progress is being made in this case

 

[Star Wars]

Some but the government should have gone the whole hog using that route instead of throwing away political capital on the land bill etc. That, even you have to agree, has been an unmitigated disaster & shows very poor planning. Jaitley has goofed up in his handling of many issues creating unnecessary concern about the government's handling of simple issues even.

Land billis decided by the states and states can create their own bill, i don;t get how it is bad. the bill BJP pushed was bad in my opnion.

 

[Bang Galore]

Sorry for being blunt but the state legislature with few notable exceptions is a mess. If any law is indeed drafted then it would so full of loopholes that an elephant could pass through it. Though Land is a state subject , "acquisition and requisitioning of property" is in the concurrent list. Both Parliament and state legislatures can make laws on this subject.
Investors are more likely to be scared off by wildly inconsistent state laws on land from one state to other so it is better that center drafts a consistent and legally tenable law that can't be easily challenged and changed by successive state govts and courts.

Not incorrect but the idea was to get the BJP governments to follow an uniform state law & build up pressure on other state governments, none of whom privately like the present law. Investors invest in a state & I disagree that they would care what the laws in other states are. World over, many countries have different laws in their states & each state competes with the other for investment.

A central law is preferable but one has to be realistic & not be held hostage to the opposition. This would have been a good way to reduce the pressure as well as increase it with opposition ruled states worrying about the possible loss of investment unless they too have a better law.

 

[Spectre]

Not incorrect but the idea was to get the BJP governments to follow an uniform state law & build up pressure on other state governments, none of whom privately like the present law. Investors invest in a state & I disagree that they would care what the laws in other states are. World over, many countries have different laws in their states & each state competes with the other for investment.

This is a tricky to answer, to an extent you are right. However what happens is the increase in divergence b.w states. Some states would continue to monopolize the investments like MH, TN, Gujarat while others would dip further into poverty like WB. Our population in many of the states is still not literate enough to differentiate b/w empty sloganeering and fine line between pro industry policy which and anti farmer policy. They will be easily duped by opportunistic politicians like Mamata and ilk which would further scare away investments in such states.

Regards

 

[Bang Galore]

This is a tricky to answer, to an extent you are right. However what happens is the increase in divergence b.w states. Some states would continue to monopolize the investments like MH, TN, Gujarat while others would dip further into poverty like WB. Our population in many of the states is still not literate enough to differentiate with empty sloganeering and fine line between pro industry policy which and anti farmer policy. They will be easily duped by opportunistic politicians like Mamata and ilk which would further scare away investments in such states.

Regards

True but the alternative will be the victory of the "equal distribution of poverty" brigade. Better to have some states set standards and hope that pressure will build up on other states to follow. If they don't, tough. Atleast the country won't hurt in full measure (some pain is guaranteed) for their cussedness.

 

[Star Wars]

True but the alternative will be the victory of the "equal distribution of poverty" brigade. Better to have some states set standards and hope that pressure will build up on other states to follow. If they don't, tough. Atleast the country won't hurt in full measure (some pain is guaranteed) for their cussedness.

@Spectre What you say is not entirely right, this is the year of Internet and alternative media. This is a country which has more mobile phones than toilets themselves. Politicians and media can no longer set the agenda. For example, people in BIhar and U.p are as backward if not more as compared to W.B. But these people are aware of the benefits of development and progress. If you have any doubts, wait for BIhar elections. The loss of MGB in bihar will signify a lot of things. Especially the fact that people are no longer gullible to what politicians say. People might be illiterate, but they aren't necessarily stupid.Reports are indicating even the Yadav youth are voting for BJP, the same Yadavs who have been extremely loyal to Lalu. Progress in other states will force state govt. to either work, or be voted out...

 

[Mike_Brando]

Where is my 15 lakhs rupees?

For further information please contact Mr.Barack Obama

 

[thesolar65]

Don't want to enter these kind of discussions. As Scorpionx pointed out...will wait for full term to be completed. Only give some thanks to posts which I like. As of now, my sole aim is to piss off Chinese for whom I was banned twice!! Waiting for opportunity.

 

[Echo_419]

Where is my 15 lakhs rupees?

Nahi milenge

 

[anant_s]

When this government was voted to power with a thumping majority, it was quite clear that the huge expectations will become a trouble in some time.
the issue is that expectations are extremely high in in some cases unrealistic. we cannot deny the fact that this government has brought about some significant changes but at the same time it hasn't been able to match action with words. my reportcard would be as follows:
Hits

1. Auction of coal and telecom waves in transparent manner.
2. A very competent Rail minister who has dared not to indulge in populism.
3. Taking banking reforms seriously and making provisions for down trodden to enter main stream economy.
4. Visible improvement in foreign relations.
5. Showing spine as far as terrorism is concerned.
6. Selling of Make in India campaign

Misses

1. GST and Land bills still not passed.
2. What exactly does Sushma Swaraj do?
3. Raking up of unnecessary controversies like this recent Beef one.
4. Not reigning Party motor mouths.
5. Concrete action against corruption case convicts still missing.
6. Reforms in agriculture seem to be on back burner. this is leading to supply side pressure and often leading to price spikes.

its been close to year and half but like @scorpionx i would like to wait a bit more before passing judgements. But yes i think its time for some action and less of media entertainment/nuisance now.

 

[Star Wars]

Misses

1. GST and Land bills still not passed.
2. What exactly does Sushma Swaraj do?
3. Raking up of unnecessary controversies like this recent Beef one.
4. Not reigning Party motor mouths.
5. Concrete action against corruption case convicts still missing.
6. Reforms in agriculture seem to be on back burner. this is leading to supply side pressure and often leading to price spikes.

its been close to year and half but like @scorpionx i would like to wait a bit more before passing judgements. But yes i think its time for some action and less of media entertainment/nuisance now.

2. Susham Swaraj is doing a wonderful job, most people like her
3. Job of the media, most controversies existed before 2014, but leaders should control what they say.
4. I like motor mouths like Giriraj Singh and V.K Singh, nothing wrong calling them presstitutes or mental patiants, though they should be careful whom they talk to.
5. Think these things will take time, ill give them another 1 - 2 years
6. Agriculture is doing well(depending on the state), problem is with previous govt. baggade and low monsoon, Rajasthan Maharashtra, A.P and other states agricultural economy should improve drastically once these irrigation and water conservation projects complete by 2019. A lot of the states are taking example from Maharashtra, Fadnavis's water conservation project seems to be a hit.

 

[vayuputhra]

This a run shouty or what ever was responsible for hastily closing industries, due to which lakhs lost jobs, my father was one of his victim, this was a main reason vajpayee lost the elections, I think the present govt is doing correctly, if the govt listens to this moron then it will be political suicide, because of his deeds the Bjp suffered and the monmohan govt reaped the benefits, I think modi should keep him at a sticks distance.

 

[danger007]

I would take anything Arun says with a bucket full of salt, as someone said earlier the timing of this right before Bihar elections is questionable. I would agree with you on disinvestment, as for loosing momentum on reform, i don't understand how you make that assessment especially when you reference it to elections. Bihar alone will decide how the reform process goes. Govt. has been taking a lot of executive decisions lately, reforms will continue if Bihar is one and will be a problem if Bihar is lost. Its really that simple.So i don;t see much hurdle or issues in reform process for the moment other than the failure of the previous parliament session.Everything will be decided in the winter session of parliament, if bills fail to pass, then reform process will be in trouble.

looks like you are hardcore fan of Modi govt.. when it comes to politics there are no saints..... but a very few follows ethics... rest are same... be it Congress or BJP or another party.... Modi got his time to prove himself... if he is different from other gimmick masters.. he can show progress in real-time... otherwise progress will struck at headlines.....

Modi promised around 200000 crore plans for Bihar during election campaign.... it's pretty common... but when he came to Ap capital recently... he just gave some mitti and water.. he didn't even mentioned about promises given by them in past.. just because there are no elections in Ap now?

 

[Star Wars]

looks like you are hardcore fan of Modi govt.. when it comes to politics there are no saints..... but a very few follows ethics... rest are same... be it Congress or BJP or another party.... Modi got his time to prove himself... if he is different from other gimmick masters.. he can show progress in real-time... otherwise progress will struck at headlines.....

Modi promised around 200000 crore plans for Bihar during election campaign.... it's pretty common... but when he came to Ap capital recently... he just gave some mitti and water.. he didn't even mentioned about promises given by them in past.. just because there are no elections in Ap now?

Me being a hardcore fan is irrelevant, ignore that for a moment... Painting me with a single brush will not help either of us. Giving mitti and water is symbolic, don't ignore it. A.P will get support from center as time goes on, it may or may not come in media. As for everything else, wait till 2019. 4 of your points i disagreed on and i have the right to disagree on them without being labeled Sanghi, Bhakt, hardcore modi fan etc...Some of those same points have been repeated by well known Modi haters and are just plainly wrong.