MMA: India vs Pakistan (One FC)

[Nilu Pule]

Kudos to this guy. Keralites are among the tallest in the country, it's not some genetic transfer, just nutrition.

Telugus too.

 

[waz]

Go watch susovan's previous fights.

Some of them are credible. But they are poorly trained.

Just no.....

Susovan is 4-4

https://m.sherdog.com/fighter/Susovan-Ghosh-83117


Look at Singh

https://m.sherdog.com/fighter/Yadwinder-Singh-163751

Guys leave the abusive posts please.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Raju has been beaten four times including having a three row loss streak and being knocked out;

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/85481-raul-raju

Cheema has a better record.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/79781-furqan-cheema


Anyway the better dude in the day won, how about this;

There’s so many more I can post but you don’t really like North Indians but below are some for reference.

He has been running away from a fighter with amateur Pak MMA fighters like Mujtaba:

https://www.tapology.com/fightcente...krusher-rahul-raju-vs-ahmed-wolverine-mujtaba

 

[Nilu Pule]

Just no.....


https://m.sherdog.com/fighter/Yadwinder-Singh-163751

You don't get it. It's not only India vs Pakistan.

Raju, an Indian fighter with poor resources beats a British Pakistan who can train at best MMA gyms in the world.

Britain has produced top fighters like Bisping, Darren Till, Edwards Leon etc because they have world class gyms.

The worst gym in the west is better than the best gym in India.

He has been running away from a fighter with amateur Pak MMA fighters like Mujtaba:

View attachment 603014

https://www.tapology.com/fightcente...krusher-rahul-raju-vs-ahmed-wolverine-mujtaba

Why do you lie? Your mutjuba guy was denied a Singaporean visa. So they had to concel the fight

 

[waz]

You don't get it. It's not only India vs Pakistan.

Raju, an Indian fighter with poor resources beats a British Pakistan who can train at best MMA gyms in the world.

Britain has produced top fighters like Bisping, Darren Till, Edwards Leon etc because they have world class gyms.

The worst gym in the west is better than the best gym in India.

Get it? Aside Cheema all the other Pakistani fighters I put up trained in gym similar to the Indian ones...

 

[Nilu Pule]

Just no.....

Susovan is 4-4

https://m.sherdog.com/fighter/Susovan-Ghosh-83117


Look at Singh

https://m.sherdog.com/fighter/Yadwinder-Singh-163751

Guys leave the abusive posts please.

Did you read my post?

3 of them used to train at the same gym in Mumbai few years back. I have trained with them.
One of them is an corporate nerd with a glass chin, other one is from a boxing ground and does not train bjj much, and the third one is from typical kushti wrestling background with no brains.
I won't say who they are though hehe.

This was an event which was held in the UAE where all Pakistani fighters lost vs Indian fighters.

By some random coincedence you have posted about all 3 of them.

Susovan's all loses were by knockouts including his pro debut.

Sanjivan has no ground game. He knocked the down out other guy and got submitted when he went for ground n pound.

Yadwinder Singh is a khusti wrestler with low fight iq. Although he has the potential to be the best Indian mma fighter.

 

[waz]

Did you read my post?

By some random coincedence you have posted about all 3 of them.

Susovan's all loses were by knockouts including his pro debut.

Sanjivan has no ground game. He knocked the down out other guy and got submitted when he went for ground n pound.

Yadwinder Singh is a khusti wrestler with low fight iq. Although he has the potential to be the best Indian mma fighter.

So says you, no evidence of that. Aside their game has weaknesses like EVERY fighter out there.
More were posted after that.
Just admit your attempt at trolling has massively backfired on you.
I’m not done yet. I’ll be back after an hour to post the successes and the sheer level of participation Pakistanis have in MMA and boxing, starting with the U.K.

 

[Nilu Pule]

So says you, no evidence of that. Aside their game has weaknesses like EVERY fighter out there.
More were posted after that.
Just admit your attempt at trolling has massively backfired on you.
I’m not done yet. I’ll be back after an hour to post the successes and the sheer level of participation Pakistanis have in MMA and boxing, starting with the U.K.

If trolling was my intention then I would have asked how come a Martial race Pakistani lost to a South India.

According to this forum, 1 martial race Pak = 10 North Indian Hindus = 100 South Indian Hindus.

I got banned for exposing real history of martial races. One martial race member took offence and reported me.

Since you want to post achievements of British Pakistanis.

I want to speak about Amir Khan. Why did not he rematch bredis Prescott the guy who knocked him out in 30 seconds record early in his career. Don't you think he had it easy since he was cash cow (Muslim and Pakistani).

I couldn't resist. I had to post this. I always imagine some of your pdf Pakistani internet strongmen to be like him

 

[Vapnope]

This was an event which was held in the UAE where all Pakistani fighters lost vs Indian fighters.

And do you know that Bashir Ahmad who is father of MMA in Pakistan boycotted that event because none of the fighters were actual MMA players. A kid from Gujranwala who was a wushu player, another was taekwondo player and another kid was in boxing.
If you want to compete with Pakistani MMA players, here are some names,
Uloomi Karim
Ahmad Mujtaba
Haider Farman
Shahid Siddiqui
Waqar Ahmad
Irfan Ahmad
Mehmoosh Raza

 

[Nilu Pule]

And do you know that Bashir Ahmad who is father of MMA in Pakistan boycotted that event because none of the fighters were actual MMA players. A kid from Gujranwala who was a wushu player, another was taekwondo player and another kid was in boxing.
If you want to compete with Pakistani MMA players, here are some names,
Uloomi Karim
Ahmad Mujtaba
Haider Farman
Shahid Siddiqui
Waqar Ahmad
Irfan Ahmad
Mehmoosh Raza

They are fighters not players.

You speak as if Indian fighters they faced were veterans trained in the best gyms.

Even low level Filipino and Thai fighters are way better than top Indian/Pakistani fighters imo.

Don't be mad.

 

[Vapnope]

They are fighters not players.

You speak as if Indian fighters they faced were veterans trained in the best gyms.

Even low level Filipino and Thai fighters are way better than top Indian/Pakistani fighters imo.

Don't be mad.

Stating the fact doesnt make me mad.

You might wanna compare the Pakistani and Indian fighters who faced off in UAE.
And no, low level Thai or Filipino are not better than Pakistani or Indian top players. You might wanna check the guys who were beaten in One FC by Pakistani fighters.

 

[waz]

If trolling was my intention then I would have asked how come a Martial race Pakistani lost to a South India.

According to this forum, 1 martial race Pak = 10 North Indian Hindus = 100 South Indian Hindus.

I got banned for exposing real history of martial races. One martial race member took offence and reported me.

Since you want to post achievements of British Pakistanis.

I want to speak about Amir Khan. Why did not he rematch bredis Prescott the guy who knocked him out in 30 seconds record early in his career. Don't you think he had it easy since he was cash cow (Muslim and Pakistani).

I couldn't resist. I had to post this. I always imagine some of your pdf Pakistani internet strongmen to be like him

With the sheer level of Indians in the world one wonders why a single of one you hasn't even fought for any world title, held one or does well in the professional ranks of boxing, mma etc. Why is that?

The hilarious thing is you talk about Khan, yes he got beat by Prescot, but Khan could smash any Indian fighter with ease. You have to run to other races to satisfy your angst poor you. As for Uzzy, the dude you posted up there getting kO'd, he would do the same to any Indian fighter in his weight division.

Anyway put your money with your mouth is.

Here's some top notch guys you can only hope to produce;

This is just some of the talent we have in the UK.

https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Shoaib-Yousaf-182495

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/808683

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/735862

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/45679790


https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/825348

I could go on but I will embarrass you so much.


British Pakistanis aside black people have the highest representation in combat sports among any ethnic group....Once more they fight in the most competitive and toughest leagues where blacks and whites also fight. Not the Asian promotions which are full of mostly Asian fighters.

Let's just say that the British Pakistanis benefit from world class facilities which is true, where are the Indian folks then? Where are they in the USA where there is a huge expat population with many of the touted South Indians you also rave about? Why haven't any of them made it in professional fight sports?

Ok the martial theory is nonsense you proved it with one video, fair enough.
Let's go to Pakistan proper.

So why on earth can you not produce a single boxer on the level of much touted professional, who has already fought for a world recognised title (IBF featherweight title), Muhammad Waseem?

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/730796

So one Pakistani doesn't just equal 10 North Indians or 100 South Indians.
He equals 1.3 billion Indians.....

 

[Nilu Pule]

With the sheer level of Indians in the world one wonders why a single of one you hasn't even fought for any world title, held one or does well in the professional ranks of boxing, mma etc. Why is that?

The hilarious thing is you talk about Khan, yes he got beat by Prescot, but Khan could smash any Indian fighter with ease. You have to run to other races to satisfy your angst poor you. As for Uzzy, the due you posted up there getting kO'd, he would do the same to any Indian fighter in his weight division.

Anyway put your money with your mouth is.

Here's some top notch guys you can only hope to produce;

This is just some of the talent we have in the UK.

https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Shoaib-Yousaf-182495

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/808683

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/735862

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/45679790


https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/825348

I could go on but I will embarrass you so much.


British Pakistanis aside black people have the highest representation in combat sports among any ethnic group....Once more they fight in the most competitive and toughest leagues where blacks and whites also fight. Not the Asian promotions which are full of mostly Asian fighters.

Let's just say that the British Pakistanis benefit from world class facilities which is true, where are the Indian folks then? Where are they in the USA where there is a huge expat population with many of the touted South Indians you also rave about? Why haven't any of them made it in professional fight sports?

Ok the martial theory is nonsense you proved it with one video, fair enough.
Let's go to Pakistan proper.

So why on earth can you not produce a single boxer on the level of much touted professional, who has already fought for a world recognised title (IBF featherweight title), Waseem Khan?

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/730796

So one Pakistani doesn't just equal 10 North Indians or 100 South Indians.
He equals 1.3 billion Indians.....

India has more Olympic medals in boxing and wrestling than Pakistan. Despite not being martial race .

You don't understand the scene in India.

Indian Amateur boxers make a decent living. This is not the case in the west who have turn pro to make money. So Indians don't turn pro.
This is the reason why Vijender Singh was doing drugs and partying like a pro boxer despite being an amateur.

Coming to the scene in Britain. Fighters from Lower and lower middle class are into combat sports. From what I know British Indians are more well off than their Pakistani counterparts. So they are not into. OFC they are exceptions rich guys who train but don't compete.

How a nation which only cares about cricket can excel in other sports? How many Indians know basic rules of boxing? How many Indians know what is the full form of MMA?

WAZIRUDDIN, my martial race human being, why are you as so angry these days? Job stress? Going through a divorce?

 

[waz]

India has more Olympic medals in boxing and wrestling than Pakistan. Despite not being martial race .

You don't understand the scene in India.

Indian Amateur boxers make a decent living. This is not the case in the west who have turn pro to make money. So Indians don't turn pro.
This is the reason why Vijender Singh was doing drugs and partying like a pro boxer despite being an amateur.

Coming to the scene in Britain. Fighters from Lower and lower middle class are into combat sports. From what I know British Indians are more well off than their Pakistani counterparts. So they are not into. OFC they are exceptions rich guys who train but don't compete.

How a nation which only cares about cricket can excel in other sports? How many Indians know basic rules of boxing? How many Indians know what is the full form of MMA?

WAZIRUDDIN, my martial race human being, why are you as so angry these days? Job stress? Going through a divorce?

Hahahahaaha I knew you would back out of the debate. Do you realise what we are talking about here? Professional fighting i.e. doing it for a living, where Indian representation is tiny and in some cases not existent.
Yes you can do amateur and with the sheer money you ploughed in to such sports (boxing) you made gains, but what happens when you go for broke i.e. the term for real fighting, your guys can't make it.

LOL@your explanation of why Indians don't compete in the UK. Do you know how many white guys from good backgrounds fight and decide to turn pro? It's a male alpha thing. Earning power is an element but its a minor thing especially with the popularity of combat sports.

Here's one Indian guy who did, mind you you hate Sikh Punjabis so I guess he don't count.

https://champions-speakers.co.uk/sports-speakers/boxing-speakers/kash-the-flash-gill/

WAZIRUDDIN that's not my name, it's nice though. I have a happy marriage, a great job and I am doing far better than you could wish for. Would you like me to help you out? I can arrange a rishta for you with a lovely South Indian girl.

 

[Nilu Pule]

Hahahahaaha I knew you would back out of the debate. Do you realise what we are talking about here? Professional fighting i.e. doing it for a living, where Indian representation is tiny and in some cases not existent.
Yes you can do amateur and with the sheer money you ploughed in to such sports (boxing) you made gains, but what happens when you go for broke i.e. the term for real fighting, your guys can't make it.

LOL@your explanation of why Indians don't compete in the UK. Do you know how many white guys from good backgrounds fight and decide to turn pro? It's a male alpha thing. Earning power is an element but its a minor thing especially with the popularity of combat sports.

Here's one Indian guy who did, mind you you hate Sikh Punjabis so I guess he don't count.

https://champions-speakers.co.uk/sports-speakers/boxing-speakers/kash-the-flash-gill/

There are always exceptions, my tough friend like I said.

You are comparing Indians from India to British Pakistanis. Why don't you compare them with Paks from Pakistan?

For us to make a scientific assessment. We need to provide Indians and Pakistanis with same resources. We need to have equal number of Indians and Pakistanis participating in the experiment. Then we can draw accurate conclusions.

Or else it is futile.



Hate and dislike are not the same.

WAZIRUDDIN that's not my name, it's nice though. I have a happy marriage, a great job and I am doing far better than you could wish for. Would you like me to help you out? I can arrange a rishta for you with a lovely South Indian girl.

That's the thing about the internet. Everyone has a great job, a perfect partner, a nice car, a big home and a huge bank account balance. I am what I am. Never bragged. Pretending to be happy and successful on the internet is pretty lame.

You don't see happy successful people bragging on the internet hehe. Those who have giant egos can never be truly happy.

I am not a South Indian. Did I claim to be one? And Marriage is over rated.

Why are you so angry? It must be the martial race genes.