Misplaced fear over Pak-India trade

[Energon]

We may not like the idea but India will dominate regional market, the sooner we accept this and step into joint efforts to create a comon market the better it would be for our local industry.
Yes, some will lose but most will gain.

This is true. It is reasonable to assume that India with a larger industrial base, skilled workforce, massive home market and a wider reach with foreign investors will become the more dominant player regionally. But you're totally right in pointing out that joint ventures and market commonality will help the local industry far more. Also Pakistan can very well carve out a niche market, particularly in raw materials.

Also, it would be highly prudent for the Indian establishments to take strong measures in order to avoid getting carried away and pursue hegemonic business practices mirroring those of the West or the Chinese. The emerging Indian business houses are notoriously aggressive and competitive. I've had opportunities to talk to fair amount of executives who come here to the US in order to carry out mergers and acquisitions. Based on this first hand information it seems to me that my primary take on this imperialistic tendency was erroneous. It turns out Indian companies aren't aggressive because it is some sort of a centralized plan hatched to rule the world; the over exuberant competitive trait comes primarily from years and years of being suppressed by idiotic governmental laws whereby now they suddenly have to scramble to catch up with their Western and Chinese counterparts.

Nonetheless, they need to be extra careful when dealing with other countries on the Indian subcontinent.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Also Pakistan can very well carve out a niche market, particularly in raw materials.

A niche market in raw materials is not sustainable, nor does it do much to expand the economy.

A common market is great, but given the disparity in size at various levels of India, I believe trade has to be regulated to ensure that 'raw products' is not the only industry left in Pakistan.

Common markets, with foreign companies having to produce a certain percentage of their products sold within each country would be a better option IMO.

 

[Energon]

A niche market in raw materials is not sustainable, nor does it do much to expand the economy.

A common market is great, but given the disparity in size at various levels of India, I believe trade has to be regulated to ensure that 'raw products' is not the only industry left in Pakistan.

Common markets, with foreign companies having to produce a certain percentage of their products sold within each country would be a better option IMO.

Industrial/production offsets will undoubtedly take place over time; but cashing in on strengths for now is certainly a good option.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Industrial/production offsets will undoubtedly take place over time; but cashing in on strengths for now is certainly a good option.

Definitely - hence my support for opening up imports from India in select categories - i.e products we import from the rest of the world that could be had for cheaper from India.

Given the huge disparities between India and the smaller South Asian nations, I am not in favor of letting the 'market' purely determine the course of industrial offsets.

It would probably make more sense for the South Asian/Greater Middle East nations to form a common market minus India in the first phase.

 

[Energon]

Definitely - hence my support for opening up imports from India in select categories - i.e products we import from the rest of the world that could be had for cheaper from India.

Given the huge disparities between India and the smaller South Asian nations, I am not in favor of letting the 'market' purely determine the course of industrial offsets.

It would probably make more sense for the South Asian/Greater Middle East nations to form a common market minus India in the first phase.

I'm not really too aware of the situation in the non Indian South Asian nations; but how great is this disparity currently?

The only problem I see with your plan is that none of the other countries besides India have that massive drive right now. Won't there be a risk of perpetuation of stagnation without meaningful competition? I don't know if the industries from the region you've mention can truly provide this.

 

[BATMAN]

Some thing for the supporters of CBM,
Good luck with fun ride to india.

Jagjit Singh, Abhijeet: Ban Pak singers!
Onkar Singh in New Delhi | April 04, 2003 13:34 IST

Jagjit Singh and Abhijeet met Deputy Prime Minister L K Advani on April 3 to demand the government ban Pakistani singers from performing in India.

"We had an hour-long chat with the deputy prime minister and he listened to us attentively. Advaniji told us he was not aware of some of the facts we had brought to his knowledge. His response was positive," the two singers later claimed at a hurriedly summoned press conference at The Press Club of India, New Delhi.

Singh, who was conferred the Padma Vibhushan by President A P J Abdul Kalam, said it was a matter of deep regret that Indian singers like Lata Mangeshkar and Asha Bhosle were not invited to perform in Pakistan while Pakistani singers come to India and earn fame and money.

"The Indian high commission in Pakistan invited me for the Republic Day celebrations in 1980. That was the only time I performed there. An ISI [Inter Services Intelligence] agent kept an eye on us and, after 15 days, we were told to pack up and leave. It was only when I was leaving Pakistan that I realised the man was a senior ISI officer -- everyone saluted him when he came to see me off," Singh added.

While Pakistan-sponsored terrorists were gunning down innocents in Kashmir and carrying out massacres, he said Indian television channels were busy airing songs of Pakistani singers.

Abhijeet drew attention to 'a singer from Pakistan' who was minting money in India. No one seems to be concerned about that, he claimed. "Income tax officials raid the houses of top film stars and harass them. Nobody has asked this singer even once where the money is coming from and how much he paid those who have made so-called friendly appearances in his video albums. The video albums are being funded from across the border."

He added if the government could ban cricketing ties between India and Pakistan because it would hurt the sentiments of soldiers, cultural exchange programmes should also be discontinued till Indian singers are allowed to perform in Pakistan.
The two singers were supported by Vijay Kumar Malhotra, the government's official spokesperson in Parliament, who told rediff.com, "If we can stop playing cricket with Pakistan on emotional grounds, because Pakistan has been sponsoring terrorism from across the border, we should also stop our cultural links with Pakistan."

 

[vish]

Some thing for the supporters of CBM,
Good luck with fun ride to india.

Jagjit Singh, Abhijeet: Ban Pak singers!
Onkar Singh in New Delhi | April 04, 2003 13:34 IST

Dude, your singers are kick-azz... they sell and these two gentlemen don't.

Stop believeing every word that you hear or see.

 

[Vinod2070]

But there is a valid point. While I am all for cultural exchanges, it should be regulated.

People need to get work permit to be able to work in the other country, the way it happens all over the world.

 

[Goodperson]

Some thing for the supporters of CBM,
Good luck with fun ride to india.

Jagjit Singh, Abhijeet: Ban Pak singers!
Onkar Singh in New Delhi | April 04, 2003 13:34 IST

You could dig only one article that too dated over 5 years back speaks for itself.

 

[BATMAN]

You could dig only one article that too dated over 5 years back speaks for itself.

Yes it is an old news but that does not means that your resentments have ended.


Abhijeet quits reality show in protest
Anil Merani, Hindustan Times
Email Author
Mumbai, July 21, 2008
First Published: 19:54 IST(21/7/2008)
Last Updated: 20:03 IST(21/7/2008)

Controversy erupted on the sets of Ek Se Badhkar Ek because playback singer Abhijeet Bhattacharya objected to the participation of a Pakistani singer in this weekend reality show.

Consequently, Abhijeet—as he puts it —quit the show. Others say he was shown the door. Abhijeet Bhattacharya and choreographer Ahmed Khan were judges on Zee’s weekend reality show which features TV actors and singers performing in jodis.

Among the new entrants in the wild card round, there were Sanober Kabir and Mussarat Abbas. Pakistani contestants have often participated in the various channels’ music reality shows.

Past objections
Mussarat Abbas was a contestant from Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Challenge 2007. Abhijeet has earlier protested against Pakistani singers. In 2003, he even petitioned the government seeking a ban on Pakistani singers performing in India. This time, he said, “If Mussarat sings, I will not judge him.”

Abhijeet said that to allow foreigners to participate in the show was unfair to Indian talent. On another note, referring to Pakistani singers giving playback for Bombay’s movies, he said, “It’s a matter of great shame that our music directors should go to Pakistan to get Atif Aslam to sing because he didn’t get a visa to come here. Yahaan hamare singers bhukhemar rahe hain (Our own singers are dying of starvation here).”

Fired or quit?
Media reports have said thatAbhijeet had been shown the door due to his behaviour. But the singer states, “I spoke to the channel. They said they couldn’t change the format, so I have quit. It was mutual. But it’s sad that I had to leave because of a non-entity Pakistani singer.”

Tarun Mehra, programming head of Zee, states that he isn’t aware of the fact that Abhijeet had walked out. According to him, “We can’t change the format of the show.. it’s about singing and dancing. We will have to find a replacement.”

Diplomatically, Mussarat says that he will miss Abhijeet on the show: “I understand what he means. The fact that Indians aren’t allowed to perform in our country is amatter of embarrassment to us.We have such deep cultural and family links.” (With inputs by Bidisha Singha)

 

[vish]

Yes it is an old news but that does not means that your resentments have ended.


Abhijeet quits reality show in protest
Anil Merani, Hindustan Times
Email Author
Mumbai, July 21, 2008
First Published: 19:54 IST(21/7/2008)
Last Updated: 20:03 IST(21/7/2008)

Do one billion Indians think the same way?

 

[BATMAN]

Stop believeing every word that you hear or see.

gcrZMZvISyw[/media] - Abhijeet Jelous of Atif Aslam

BTW, In my life I have overheard indian remarks many times.
Some times I have spoken to indians for hours in disguise, they never realize that I could be a Pakistani. I really love such situations.

 

[vish]

gcrZMZvISyw[/media] - Abhijeet Jelous of Atif Aslam

BTW, In my life I have overheard indian remarks many times.
Some times I have spoken to indians for hours in disguise, they never realize that I could be a Pakistani. I really love such situations.

I have also heard many anti-Indian remarks from your countrymen... does that imply that all of you think alike?

 

[Vinod2070]

gcrZMZvISyw[/media] - Abhijeet Jelous of Atif Aslam

BTW, In my life I have overheard indian remarks many times.
Some times I have spoken to indians for hours in disguise, they never realize that I could be a Pakistani. I really love such situations.

Why, don't you speak only Arabic and no language that the Indians can understand and vice versa. Didn't you erase that Indian language from your mind yet?

Not practicing what you are preaching!

 

[su-47]

Yes it is an old news but that does not means that your resentments have ended.


Abhijeet quits reality show in protest
Anil Merani, Hindustan Times
Email Author
Mumbai, July 21, 2008
First Published: 19:54 IST(21/7/2008)
Last Updated: 20:03 IST(21/7/2008)

Several years have passed since, and still pakistani musicians rock on in india. shows that what only a handful of people want doesnt happen in a democracy!

the fact that you could only pull out this old news to support your argument itself actually strengthens our argument for better india-pak trade relations!