Military industry in the Muslim World

[Falcon29]

Does this count?

Palestinian intercontinental ballistic missile....

Palestinian rpg-7: Yassin RPG

 

[Indos]

The Islamic world is divided! Some people call others for Wahhabis, others some people call other Muslims for Rafidah! Imagine denn Islamic world could collaborate, we would form a superpower! Yes, literally a superpower. Just look at what we poducerar today alone!

Turkey, Iran and the UAE have already successes in UAV technology!
Pakistan, Turkey and Iran already produces the 3rd and 4th Generations tanks!
Iraq developed Artillery, Radars and high technology more than 20 years ago!
Pakistan, Iran and Turkey are developing / Manufacturer already 4: e/4.5 Generation fighter!

Imagine a military transfer rate between the Islamic countries, on a par with the EU!
We need to be the will to do anything, we just miss it!

You are the one who divide......why Iran help Syria which has 80 percent sunni population ?

 

[IR5]

[Quote = "Indos, post: 5252896, ledamot: 148.143"]? Du är den som delar ...... varför Iran hjälper Syrien, som har 80 procent sunni befolkningen [/ quote]
I am the first not Iranie (took the flag by mistake) Otherwise, I do not stand with Iran or Saudi Arabia! Chaos in Syria, Chaos in Iraq, chaos in Yemen! LOOK only at Christian world!

Orthodox, Catholics and Protestants! All working together and not have a problem to collaborate!
Are we badly created or what? NO! But no one wants to make the difference!

 

[Indos]

[Quote = "Indos, post: 5252896, ledamot: 148.143"]? Du är den som delar ...... varför Iran hjälper Syrien, som har 80 procent sunni befolkningen [/ quote]
I am the first not Iranie (took the flag by mistake) Otherwise, I do not stand with Iran or Saudi Arabia! Chaos in Syria, Chaos in Iraq, chaos in Yemen! LOOK only at Christian world!

Orthodox, Catholics and Protestants! All working together and not have a problem to collaborate!
Are we badly created or what? NO! But no one wants to make the difference!

We have already........Indonesia has joint development with Turkey in tanks, and some agreement with Saudi recently in defence industry. Talking about unity, lets start first from the young leaders in the Muslim World. As long as the young is still feeling inferior to the old leadership...so they will still follow this kind of dividing mentality.

 

[porris]

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which muslim product is this "Thraya"

The engines which TEI will produce gonna be exported under the name of TEI ''with an official name of T700-TEI701D''. National contribution for TEI produced engines will be around %64-67.

Aselsan designed Cockpit with full domestic avionics for T-70

Authorities have launched a program to design, develop and produce Turkey’s first national helicopter.
Turkey’s defense procurement agency has formally pushed the button to launch an ambitious program to design, develop and produce the country’s first national helicopter, a light platform weighing less than 5,500 kilograms.

“We aim to build a platform designed by Turkish engineers, with customized sub-systems that also can compete on international markets with its performance and price. The first national helicopter will be sold to the Turkish market and then to international buyers,” the procurement office, known as the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries, or SSM, said in a statement on its website

We must think to invest in Turkish helicopter project

[Quote = "Indos, post: 5252896, ledamot: 148.143"]? Du är den som delar ...... varför Iran hjälper Syrien, som har 80 procent sunni befolkningen [/ quote]
I am the first not Iranie (took the flag by mistake) Otherwise, I do not stand with Iran or Saudi Arabia! Chaos in Syria, Chaos in Iraq, chaos in Yemen! LOOK only at Christian world!

Orthodox, Catholics and Protestants! All working together and not have a problem to collaborate!
Are we badly created or what? NO! But no one wants to make the difference!

Yes u r right . They are unite in this stand , but we are divided because of our leaders they only think of themselves interest but not for the interest of nation and ummah

 

[Taygibay]

You are the one who divide......why Iran help Syria which has 80 percent sunni population ?

Because the ruler of Syria is Alewite?

I.E. of their own persuasion and keeping those 80% Sunnis in check?
Which Iran would have liked to see carry on?

Just saying', Tay.

 

[MiGboy]

Honestly, OP is like some kind of UAE aficionado, when in fact most of UAE's "Advancements" are in due part of US, UK and other Western corporations....Those Arabs can't make anything without bowing down to their western masters, same with Turkey....Iran and Pakistan forever!!

 

[cabatli_53]

Honestly, OP is like some kind of UAE aficionado, when in fact most of UAE's "Advancements" are in due part of US, UK and other Western corporations....Those Arabs can't make anything without bowing down to their western masters, same with Turkey....Iran and Pakistan forever!!

Turkey is one of the most independant Muslim majority country in terms of military hardware and industrial capabilities. We are on right track to be more self sufficient thanks to systematically proceeding roadways and time schedules. Within 3-5 years, Turkey will have an industrial capabilities that is able to produce almost all type of needed hardwares with satisfactory national contributions, While competing with French and Germany like countries on most strategic products in terms of quality and capabilities. Turkey achieved great success on some most critical subcomponents that a few countries have ability of production.

which muslim product is this "Thraya"


We must think to invest in Turkish helicopter project

Bro, It is known that Turkish projects open partnership of brother states. It is voiced many times by officials. In this aspect;

Utility helicopter programs:

TAI/ITU domestic 2 tonnes utility helicopter

TAI 5 tonnes utility helicopter

 

[cabatli_53]

Turkey transfer neccessary technologies to brother states.

Malaysia received composite fast intervention boat production capabilities transfered from Yonca Onuk.

Malaysia received PARS 8x8 technologies from Turkey. The new vehicle called AV-8 is going to be produced by Malaysian institutes in partnership with Turkey.

UAE received technology of 122mm and 300mm artillery rocket technology and manufacturing them under the licence of Roketsan.

UAE received 10000 Cirit missiles

Saudi Arabia received M-113 upgrading capabilities

Kazakhstan received Cobra production capability

Kazakhstan received latest generation thermal sight, avionic and fire control system technologies

Turkey shares expertize on tracked armoured fighting vehicle/light tank technologies with Indonesia to develop a perfect solution based on Kaplan-20 to meet the requirements of Indonesian armed forces.

Azerbaijan receives guided 300mm and 122mm artillery missile systems.

List goes on like that...

Turkey said to eye Saudi tanks sale
By Daniel Shane

• Sunday, 26 May 2013 10:53 AM

Turkish military vehicles firm Otokar Otomotiv ve Savunma Sanayi could sell hundreds of tanks to Saudi Arabia, according to a report in Turkey’s press.

Turkey said to eye Saudi tanks sale - Politics & Economics - ArabianBusiness.com



Bahrain received Otokar's Cobra 4x4, APC, Arma 6x6 and Armed Riot vehicles

Bahrain Arma

 

[ptldM3]

95% of everything posted on here is based off of foreign technology or is in partnerships with other countries.

 

[cabatli_53]

At present, Turkey signed agreement with Sierra Navada, which is owned by two Turks, to establish infrastructure for domestic airliner and military/cargo aircraft production center in the center of Anatolia.

Development schedule is here.

TRJ-328 and TRP-328 will be 40 seat capable airliner which is going to be upgraded for military applications. It is actually original Do-328 aircraft that intellectual and property rights belongs to Turkish enterpreneurs. It is agreed over details to open production line in Turkey for Turkish and export markets. First flight is in 2017.

TRJ-628 and TRP-628 will be 70 seat capable airliner. Design activities are commenced and First flight is planned to be done in 2020.

It is expected to reach serious markets on ME and Asian countries.

95% of everything posted on here is based off of foreign technology or is in partnerships with other countries.

Why Ruski ? Otokar and Aselsan crushed/beated/oppressed Ruski institutes on Kazakhstan tenders so You are typing such nonsense cause of feeling a deep pain coming from old dates ?
Dude, Turks meet the requirements of Muslim states thanks to domestic efforts and infrastructure gained from hundreds of ongoing projects. The real beast game changers will be all around within 4-5 years so just calm down now.

 

[ptldM3]

Why Ruski ? Otokar and Aselsan crushed/beated/oppressed Ruski institutes on Kazakhstan tenders so You are typing such nonsense cause of feeling a deep pain coming from old dates ?
Dude, Turks meet the requirements of Muslim states thanks to domestic efforts and infrastructure gained from hundreds of ongoing projects. The real beast game changers will be all around within 4-5 years so just calm down now.

Who even mentioned Turkey? You have a major inferiority complex, especially since you always try to compare Turkish weapons to Russian. Your Altay is mashed together frankintank, without Germany and South Korea it would not exist (gun, engine, armor, ect are foreign). The T-129 is Italian. Turkey is no where in the league of Russia, don't kid yourself with delusions. Come talk when Turkey is able to built any basic military platforms on its own. When Turkey can built a modern turbofan engine or a nuclear engine come talk, or if Turkey can built something from the ground up on its own you might have some bragging rights and respect but that is not the case.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

The Islamic world is divided! Some people call others for Wahhabis, others some people call other Muslims for Rafidah! Imagine denn Islamic world could collaborate, we would form a superpower! Yes, literally a superpower. Just look at what we poducerar today alone!

Turkey, Iran and the UAE have already successes in UAV technology!
Pakistan, Turkey and Iran already produces the 3rd and 4th Generations tanks!
Iraq developed Artillery, Radars and high technology more than 20 years ago!
Pakistan, Iran and Turkey are developing / Manufacturer already 4: e/4.5 Generation fighter!

Imagine a military transfer rate between the Islamic countries, on a par with the EU!
We need to be the will to do anything, we just miss it!

we also build UAVs buddy since 80s. UCAV is something we started building recently.

 

[cabatli_53]

Who even mentioned Turkey? You have a major inferiority complex, especially since you always try to compare Turkish weapons to Russian. Your Altay is mashed together frankintank, without Germany and South Korea it would not exist (gun, engine, armor, ect are foreign). The T-129 is Italian. Turkey is no where in the league of Russia, don't kid yourself with delusions. Come talk when Turkey is able to built any basic military platforms on its own. When Turkey can built a modern turbofan engine or a nuclear engine come talk, or if Turkey can built something from the ground up on its own you might have some bragging rights and respect but that is not the case.

Dude, It is you jumping thread with nonsense and It is same you keeping same nonsense as If claimed a great thing. It seems Altay project inflicted a deep wound in your agenda so You like talking Altay When the subject is about Turkish defence industry. Don't worry, That's my thinking, Your disappointment Armata will have a hard times If It joins into same tender with Altay as other Russian tools that lost many tender against Turk/Israeli equivalents in a country like Kazakhstan Russia considers as biggest ally. If you pay attention, I didnt compare anything with Ruski gears. You always jump into threads to throw such claims but There is a fact that Without your political influence, Many of your weapons don't have a serious chance against NATO rivals dude. You lost many tenders in India as well so threatening India with supplying weapon to Pakistan. The countries which is looking for quality, change their routes towards other sides.

Anyway, The gun, armour and "etc" are all Turkish but Engine will be MTU until Tumosan reveals domestic equivalents. On design process and gun developments, It is received some help from Korea. Receiving some help from friend countries doesn't mean Altay isn't Turkish. Korea also received help to develop their guns. Isn't it certain for you that Noone have a saying over Altay excluding Turkey? It will be same When We offered Altay to a country locating under Russian influence. We told that T-129 is not Italian but Italian/Turkish attack helicopter.

There is a fact that If We didn't build our rising infrastructure thanks to such professional strategies, At present, You would have been talking like "How Turkish projects are failing" with a big smile on your face in forums but today You are making political calculations to beat Turkish products with anger because You know that The potential of Turkish products are quite big in markets having Russian influence When It is compared with European and USA potentials because Most of your products are being exported to Muslim majority states. Turkey as a Muslim powerhouse will start gapping them. Those makes our days better. We prefer developing our projects with a clever strategies When It is needed, instead of risking the future of strategic projects in order to keep beating Ruski products as much as We can at every tender We joined.

You jumped into thread to claim %95 of what I have posted above are foreign but Do you really suppose You proved a serious thing with typing your second comment above ? Turkish roadway is way clear for everybody. We don't have a secret agenda. It is known that We receive some help When It is needed but Those don't mean that We don't rule our technology/infrastructure We developed. Those doesn't mean that We couldn't beat Ruski products in tenders joined side by side. What a pleasure !!!

What's wrong with talking about Turkish products getting success at international tenders ? It is the reason of Turkish members coming forums to talk about them. It is no need to develop nuclear or turbofan engines to talk about How Ruski weapons are slogging on reaching any success in Khazakstan tender against Israeli and Turkish equivalents. What we have developed at present, started to increase your anger to extreme levels so putting your nose to threads related with Turkish defence industry. I can't imagine What would you do in following 5-6 years When We got a big and strategic tender in such countries.

BTW, If your latest generation lowrider Armatas are breaking down during military parades, It is not our problem dude Talking about them in forums is not a shame or has nothing to do with comparing Ruski products with Turkish equivalents but If We got a victory in a big market, We wouldn't need to get permission from Russia to talk about them... Don't worry, I know the reason of your pain.

 

[cabatli_53]

Ruski doesn't give us permission to talk about Turk-Khazakstan partnerships but I will proceed...

Kazakhstan choosed Aselsan avionic and optic solutions instead of Ruski equivalents to integrate on their helicopters. First platform will be Khazakstani EC-145.

Kazak Helikopterlerinde ASELSAN Ürünleri Kullanılacak | Haberler | Basın Odası | ASELSAN


Aselsan signed agreement with Semey Eng. to upgrade Ruski made T-72 tanks. Ruskies are in shock...

T-72KZ Aselsan upgraded.

Aselsan signed agreement with Kazakhstan to upgrade Ruski made BTR, BRDM and other armoured vehicles Kazakhistan have in inventory.

Türk ve Kazak Mühendisler Birlikte Çalıştı | Haberler | Basın Odası | ASELSAN



Turkish optics are in production in Kazakhstan

%95 of them are foreign.

Turkish Otokar To Launch Production in Kazakhstan

ANKARA — Turkey’s leading armored vehicles manufacturer, Otokar, will launch a production line in Kazakhstan, the company said in a statement.

A memorandum of understanding for the venture was signed Oct. 12 in Istanbul during the Turkish-Kazakh Investment and Commerce Forum, the statement said. The deal was witnessed by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Kazakhstan President Nursultan Nazarbayev.

This is a follow-up deal to a contract Otokar won in May to sell scores of vehicles to the Kazakh Army. Under the deal, Otokar will launch a joint venture with Kazakhstan Engineering to produce Otokar’s four-wheel-drive Cobra armored vehicles.

Otokar, based in Istanbul, is a privately owned Turkish company listed on the Istanbul Stock Exchange and has sold more than 25,000 armored vehicles to nearly 30 countries. This is the first time a Turkish defense company will produce abroad.

Kazakhstan Engineering has been tasked with building the production facility for the Cobra vehicles while Otokar will transfer production know-how, deliver all parts and components for production, train Kazakh army officers, and supervise the production process.

The Cobra is a wheeled armored vehicle developed by Otokar using some components from the American Humvee. The Cobra forms a common platform that can be adapted for various roles and missions, including armored personnel carrier, anti-tank vehicle, reconnaissance vehicle, ground surveillance radar vehicle, forward observation vehicle, armored ambulance and armored command post. It can be equipped with a turreted vehicle for 12.7mm machine gun, a 20mm cannon, anti-tank missiles such as the TOW missile and Spike missile, or surface-to-air missiles. It can be used as an amphibious vehicle in combat.

Turkish Otokar To Launch Production in Kazakhstan | Defense News | defensenews.com


Hope to see Cobra-2 in production in Khazakstan instead of Cobra-1. Cobras have already been ordered by Khazakstan officials. I expect a joint production for Cobra-2.