Mig21 crashed at Rajasthan

[Imran Khan]

At least pilots have real ejuction experiance with these migs

 

[Tipu7]

Mig21 : Flying Coffin
Mig27 : Widow Machine

Indian Air Force still operate 10 Squadrons of Mig21 and 5 Squadrons of Mig27.
LCA was supposed to replace Mig21 and Rafale was supposed to replace Mig27.

Its incompetency of IAF and MoD that huge portion of their air force is in trouble.
Pilots who train to fly state of art air craft do not deserve to risk their lives like that.................

 

[Stannis Baratheon]

Mig-21 is not operated by BAF,F-7 is.
If you retried those that what all will you have is 3 operational mig-29 in your AF
Airguards in BAF were bought as recently in 2007 and 2013
Some 8 or 9 old mb variants were retired if i am not wrong which were purchased back in late 80's

We had Mig-21's but we retired them all. Right now aside from the Mig-29's we have F-7 but most of these are heavily modified and some were made after 2008. As for Mig-29's, we have 8 out of which 6 are for combat and 2 are for training.

Also, it seems like we will be using the Yak-130 as future replacements for these F-7 which will be retired once 4.5 generation fighters are procured.

 

[PARIKRAMA]

What India needs is to to comprehensively look at two things

1. A proper investigation to understand technical reason behind the crash - a system/sub system failure due to ageing aircraft, a faulty part or a human error as Mig 21s and its trainers are quite unforgiving type aircraft
2. To properly allocate and expedite the modernization plan to replace all aged fleet in order to not fall for the trap of a dated aircraft which is at higher acceptable risk in a matrix.

Blaming just Tejas LCA is not a solution. Nor saying getting any other jets is really. We have known Mig 21 and Mig 27s needs replacement from very long. So in a nutshell its a collective failure of government, HAL, our MIC and our industry that we could not chart out a proper plan to replace the retiring fleets or aged fleets and expedite our modernisation plan.

By Gods grace our pilot is safe. But we should wake up to understand the cause and also look at point 1 and 2 more closely.

 

[cerberus]

MiG 21 T-69 trainer crashes.
Flying coffins!!
Last year in J&K this year in Rajasthan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/774520507546742784

Last Mig-21 Crash was i think 31 Jan 2015 in Jamnagar city

Its incompetency of IAF and MoD that huge portion of their air force is in trouble.

Pure BS
Last Mig-21 was Crashed in 31 jan 2015 From there its 10 September 2016 Almost

1 year 9 Months It clearly There Serviceability is Improved In Last decade India Still operate 250+ Mig-21

Going By Flying Hours in Air Its better Record than past

Nothing Over Exaggeration

Well this is Type-69B trainer which means this was over 37 years old; as last Type-69 trainers were delivered by USSR factory in 1979.
IAF bought 90 of these Type-69s from CIS nations in early 90s

Last Mig-21 Was crashed almost 1 year 9 month ago

the Serviceability record improved Last year

 

[Levina]

Last Mig-21 Crash was i think 31 Jan 2015 in Jamnagar city

There was another Mig-21 crash after January(Jamnagar),which occurred in Aug 2015,Budgam, J&K.
That's why I said last year in J&K and this year in Rajasthan.

 

[Jaga Badmash]

At least pilots have real ejuction experiance with these migs

Once I watched former Indian Air chief interview (forgot his name) he mentioned that only earlier crashes attributed to hydraulic pipes leaks but soon IAF repaired and overhaul these systems but many crashes due to the fact that IAF lack in advance trainer conversion aircraft because MIG-21 and variants and very difficult to control for a young pilot even instructor also flying with them, Due to high speed and lack of control with the instructor they can't do much to save the jet.

 

[cerberus]

There was another Mig-21 crash in Aug 2015, J&K.
That's why I said last year in J&K and this year in Rajasthan.

Even Jags Is Crashing Last year This year too

Its completely on The Stress these Machine Takes in Air And Due to old Airframe they have
Still IAF is consider then One of the Main Back Bone of IAF And In their Strategy

And Serviceability of these aircraft Improved in last five years

Mig-21 MF will go in Service by 2019 Until all 312 MKI will be inducted into service

 

[Jaga Badmash]

Air Force's 86th Aircraft Crashes. Parliamentary Committee Says the Average is One Aircraft a Month.
June 17, 2015 Report

It was the 86th crash since 2007 -- on an average, the Indian Air Force (IAF) has lost about one aircraft every month for the past eight years.
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/air-...-a-month-finds-parliamentary-committee-772338

 

[Soulspeek]

How long are we going to keep flying this BAIL GAADI?

 

[Jaga Badmash]

How long are we going to keep flying this BAIL GAADI?

IAF still considering them better than home production Tejas.....But why?
1. Heavy kick backs from Russia in spare parts purchase.
2.They are war proven and as per former IAF chief many crashes due to lack of advance trainer jets.

 

[cerberus]

IAF still considering them better than home production Tejas.....But why?
1. Heavy kick backs from Russia in spare parts purchase.
2.They are war proven and as per former IAF chief many crashes due to lack of advance trainer jets.

They Proved Their Metal again & again various combat exercises
In cope india Twice Against There strategy for USAF F-16,F-15

Tejas Claims are unsubstantiated And Baseless

Air Force's 86th Aircraft Crashes. Parliamentary Committee Says the Average is One Aircraft a Month.
June 17, 2015 Report

It was the 86th crash since 2007 -- on an average, the Indian Air Force (IAF) has lost about one aircraft every month for the past eight years.
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/air-...-a-month-finds-parliamentary-committee-772338

The Parliamentary Committee of Defence which looked into the high rate of crashes, has found that as many as 34 crashes happened due to technical defects. Another 30 were because of the pilot error. Some were a combination of both.

So the Crash involved both human and Machine factor

 

[Levina]

@hellfire
The incident that you had quoted must have been about the Mig21 pilot who was killed in 2014,Anantnag.
Last year,there were 2 Mig21 crashes, pilots ejeced safely in both the cases. Fortunately!!!

 

[Ankit Kumar 002]

The fukin' UPA government had been sittiwith n its a$$ for the 10 years it has misruled the country and did nothing for defence procurement. They were busy molly coddling the dalits and OBCs for political gain. They even waved Rs 70,000 crores for farmers which made things worse and fuked up the economy. 70,000 crores would have got 150 top-of-the-line jet fighters for the IAF which could have dumped these antique half century old MiG-21s!

Its 2 years with BJP. A proactive MoD would have meant atleast 36 Rafales in service , along with 1 more Su30Mki squadron.... reducing the risk .

But .....
Parikkar till now has proven himself only 0.00001% better .

 

[Levina]

But .....
Parikkar till now has proven himself only 0.00001% better .

Blame it on Indian sceptism.