Meet Shahed-171 Simorgh Iranian Multi-Role Jet-Powered Stealth Un-Manned Combat Aerial Vehicle (UCAV) of Iran

[Irfan Baloch]

Regardless if it was or not, the Iranians are doing R&D heavily and producing much more with limited resources than what Pakistan is doing currently, and that's a damn shame to put it bluntly. I have no idea what our babu's are doing besides JF-17 we assembling theirs nothing else worth mentioning. We should've been in the position of Turkey & Iran and be a major exporter of military hardware, but sadly we were fated with an autistic leadership and population.

Iranian commitment and dedication is indeed inspiring.
they do deserve the commendation for their steadfastness despite immense international pressure and the siege situation they have been facing since the revolution.
although I am not very sure about the validity of their claims and effectiveness specially some of the exotic designs like Qahar313. some of such displays seem to be more political and publicity and this maybe deliberate to keep their enemy guessing.

as for Pakistan you summed up and explained the reason for our lack of imagination, creativity and dedication in the last part of your sentence. our source pool (i.e.e people) is our limiting factor.

 

[PakFactor]

Iranian commitment and dedication is indeed inspiring.
they do deserve the commendation for their steadfastness despite immense international pressure and the siege situation they have been facing since the revolution.
although I am not very sure about the validity of their claims and effectiveness specially some of the exotic designs like Qahar313. some of such displays seem to be more political and publicity and this maybe deliberate to keep their enemy guessing.

as for Pakistan you summed up and explained the reason for our lack of imagination, creativity and dedication in the last part of your sentence. our source pool (i.e.e people) is our limiting factor.

I will say more so no vision than a lack of imagination.

I will give you one example I have a cousin from Gujranwala PhD student (3rd year) and also a student teacher at Lahore several years back. Him and a friend also 3rd year PhD were selected by HEC under their program to send out approx. 10,000 students to get PhDs in STEM fields and come back to research and teach. Basically HEC wanted to create a research orientated university system similar to the western model.

They both did research on cancer delivery mechanism through nanotechnology in Cologne, Germany got their PhDs and all. They go back and no job as they were promised not even in their old university they taught and studied, my cousin applied back to the University in Germany got the job to teach and research and on the tenure track. His other friend is running the family pizza joint in Faisalabad.

I know several Economics PhD from Chicago Booth School of Business and Kellogg's School of Business both schools considered top 10 in the U.S., doing nothing back home and trying to find their way out of Pakistan and go else-where.

 

[Stryker1982]

Regardless if it was or not, the Iranians are doing R&D heavily and producing much more with limited resources than what Pakistan is doing currently, and that's a damn shame to put it bluntly. I have no idea what our babu's are doing besides JF-17 we assembling theirs nothing else worth mentioning. We should've been in the position of Turkey & Iran and be a major exporter of military hardware, but sadly we were fated with an autistic leadership and population.

I think it's more about focus.

Iran with its sanctions locked economy cannot rely on a large fleet of operable aircraft, nor will anyone sell it any anyways, especially considering it is not going to go well against the US and Israeli airforces -> More focus on UAS/UCAVs

Pak has focus on the JF-17, their is not a large need for drones besides for loitering reconnaissance.

If Iran had a couple dozen JF-17 with parts production inside the country, it would allow the airforce alot of flexibility with regards to the usage of air launched standoff munitions.

 

[Syed_Adeel]

Regardless if it was or not, the Iranians are doing R&D heavily and producing much more with limited resources than what Pakistan is doing currently, and that's a damn shame to put it bluntly. I have no idea what our babu's are doing besides JF-17 we assembling theirs nothing else worth mentioning. We should've been in the position of Turkey & Iran and be a major exporter of military hardware, but sadly we were fated with an autistic leadership and population.

Sir MALE drone and 5th gen Project AZM are underway already.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Regardless if it was or not, the Iranians are doing R&D heavily and producing much more with limited resources than what Pakistan is doing currently, and that's a damn shame to put it bluntly. I have no idea what our babu's are doing besides JF-17 we assembling theirs nothing else worth mentioning. We should've been in the position of Turkey & Iran and be a major exporter of military hardware, but sadly we were fated with an autistic leadership and population.

It's more to do with our autistic leadership, on paper our IQ is supposed to be higher than Iran (somewhere it's equal)

But clearly it's of no use as of now lol, Iranians are killing it

 

[M ansari]

My point behind this was that Iranians hacked and landed rq170 and then they probably made copy.
But given the Iranians Qaher and Fateh jets, they cannot be trusted easily. this could be another mock.
Let this drone be mass produced and inducted first.

Shahed 171 attack aircraft were earlier flying wing designs based on the RQ-170, with the former proving extremely survivable in some of the densest air defence environments on the planet when one penetrated Israeli airspace in February 2018. The aircraft evaded multiple attempts by Israel’s U.S.-made Patriot missile batteries to neutralise it, and had to be brought down by gunfire at close range where its stealth capabilities did not provide protection. Former head of Mossad Danny Yatom stated regarding the incident: “It was a sophisticated operation. The UAV was almost an exact replica of the U.S. drone that fell in their territory. If it had exploded somewhere in Israel, it may not have been possible to identify it as an Iranian manufactured drone.”

Iran Shahed 191 Stealth Drone

Since the lifting of the UN arms embargo on Iran in October 2020, the export of all manner of conventional weapons by the country has been entirely legal although the loss of prestige Russia’s defence sector could suffer from its military’s purchases of Iranian hardware may have provided some cause for hesitation by Moscow. The possibility of Iranian technology transfers to support Russia’s development of drones, potentially resembling that between Israel and Russia following a 2009 drone license production contract, also remains significantly. Russia could also potentially offset the costs of the new assets by providing military hardware to Iran, with the Islamic Republic’s conventional forces being decades past obsolescence in a wide range of areas from manned combat aviation to armoured warfare. S-400 air defence systems, Su-30SM or Su-35 fighters, and Bastion coastal defence systems are among the assets that Iran has long been reported to have an interest in. Iran’s newer stealth drones most notably the Shahed 181 and Shahed 191 strike platforms could prove particularly problematic for Ukrainian defences, which are considerably less dense or sophisticated than those over Israel. Iran remains the only country known to have combat tested such flying wing stealth drones, and access to its knowhow and technologies could potentially significantly alter the course of the war in Ukraine while also bolstering Russia’s position against other adversaries. The transfer could also significantly contribute to the prestige of Iran’s drone programs and increase foreign interest in making acquisitions.

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[M ansari]

My point behind this was that Iranians hacked and landed rq170 and then they probably made copy.
But given the Iranians Qaher and Fateh jets, they cannot be trusted easily. this could be another mock.
Let this drone be mass produced and inducted first.

Shahed 171 attack aircraft were earlier flying wing designs based on the RQ-170, with the former proving extremely survivable in some of the densest air defence environments on the planet when one penetrated Israeli airspace in February 2018. The aircraft evaded multiple attempts by Israel’s U.S.-made Patriot missile batteries to neutralise it, and had to be brought down by gunfire at close range where its stealth capabilities did not provide protection. Former head of Mossad Danny Yatom stated regarding the incident: “It was a sophisticated operation. The UAV was almost an exact replica of the U.S. drone that fell in their territory. If it had exploded somewhere in Israel, it may not have been possible to identify it as an Iranian manufactured drone.”

Iran Shahed 191 Stealth Drone

Since the lifting of the UN arms embargo on Iran in October 2020, the export of all manner of conventional weapons by the country has been entirely legal although the loss of prestige Russia’s defence sector could suffer from its military’s purchases of Iranian hardware may have provided some cause for hesitation by Moscow. The possibility of Iranian technology transfers to support Russia’s development of drones, potentially resembling that between Israel and Russia following a 2009 drone license production contract, also remains significantly. Russia could also potentially offset the costs of the new assets by providing military hardware to Iran, with the Islamic Republic’s conventional forces being decades past obsolescence in a wide range of areas from manned combat aviation to armoured warfare. S-400 air defence systems, Su-30SM or Su-35 fighters, and Bastion coastal defence systems are among the assets that Iran has long been reported to have an interest in. Iran’s newer stealth drones most notably the Shahed 181 and Shahed 191 strike platforms could prove particularly problematic for Ukrainian defences, which are considerably less dense or sophisticated than those over Israel. Iran remains the only country known to have combat tested such flying wing stealth drones, and access to its knowhow and technologies could potentially significantly alter the course of the war in Ukraine while also bolstering Russia’s position against other adversaries. The transfer could also significantly contribute to the prestige of Iran’s drone programs and increase foreign interest in making acquisitions.

Iranian Fotros Drone







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