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‘We have not come from Arabia. Our ancestors are Indians and our vansh (lineage) is Indian too. We are not outsiders in Hindustan. We all are one and we should strive to strengthen Bharat and bharatiyata (Indian-ness).’

‘I requested the PM to end the vote bank politics being practiced by political parties in India in the name of religion. I told him that unlike other people and political parties he should not use Muslims for votes.’

Imam Umer Ahmed Ilyasi, chief imam of the All India Imam Organisation, who led a delegation of 30 Muslims to meet Prime Minister Narendra Modi on June 2, tells Prasanna D Zore/Rediff.com how the meeting came about and what was discussed during the 75-minute convivial meet.

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The delegation comprising of Muslims belonging to different sects and sub-sects (Sunnis, Shias, Barelvis, Deobandis) and intellectuals were assured by Modi that he would not tolerate anybody spreading communal hatred in India.

“We had a very fruitful dialogue with the prime minister. He told us, ‘Main aapko yakeen dilata hu ki Hindustan main agar kisi tarah ki bhi aisi baat ho… aapke liye raat ko 12 baje bhi mera darwaza khula rahega’ (Let me assure you that my doors will remain open for you even at midnight hour to meet you),” Ilyasi said emphasising the solidity of this assurance from India’s prime minister.

“Narendra Modi assured us that he won’t tolerate any communal riots in the country, he doesn’t believe in politics of division and we absolutely believe our prime minister,” he said.

This was the second such official meeting between Narendra Modi and members of the Muslim society after he was sworn in as India’s prime minister in May 2014.

The delegation told Modi that they should strive to end vote bank politics and should not tolerate any attempts by political parties to divide the country in the name of religion.

“We told him a very fundamental thing. He speaks his ‘mann ki baat’ and we are here to do ‘dil ki baat’. Aur ab ‘mann ki baat’ and ‘dil ki baat’ ek ho gayi.' (Now, this is a coming together of our thinking). When ‘mann’ and ‘dil’ will assimilate with each other, all confusions between these two will vanish. It will bring us closer to each other,” he said.

Ilyasi said the delegation approached Modi for a partnership; one that will benefit national interest. “If we have to make India strong, first we will have to strengthen bharatiyata.”:woot:

Ilyasi said, as per protocol, he had sent a letter to the Prime Minister’s Office requesting a meeting with Modi just five days before the meet happened on Tuesday. The delegation was surprised and impressed how quickly the PM made it happen.

When asked if the recent Ballabhgarh riots in Haryana or the discrimination faced by Zeshan Ali Shaikh, a Mumbai graduate, who was not given a job because he happened to be a Muslim, came up for discussion with the PM, Ilyasi said, “We did not go there to criticise him. We didn’t go there to discuss these things. He is the PM of India and he knows what is happening in Hindustan.

Modi assured the delegation that no such thing (attempts to spoil the communal atmosphere and peace) will be tolerated by him. “He said, ‘I am the prime minister of India and of all the 125 crore citizens of India’.”

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Ilyasi said it was for the first time that a prime minister of India met a Muslim delegation with such bonhomie and warmth. “He received each one of us personally and spoke to each one of us wholeheartedly.”

“He made tea for us and came to see us off after the meeting; I think he is the first prime minister to treat a delegation with such warmth and respect,” Ilyasi said.

During the 75 minute meeting with the prime minister:victory:

Ilyasi said that they pledged their wholehearted support for India’s bid for permanent membership of United Nations’ Security Council. He said he has been receiving congratulatory messages from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Pakistan for meeting Prime Minister Narendra Modi.:woot::woot:

When asked if just one meeting could bring about a radical change between Hindus and Muslims in India, Ilyasi said, they have just made a beginning to create a peaceful atmosphere in India between Hindus and Muslims with this meeting. They have plans to organise a programme at Vigyan Bhawan in the next 45 days to further strengthen this relationship.

Ilyasi, however, regretted one thing. He said it would have been better still had this meeting taken place about six months ago. “The reason I am saying this is because from the past many months our country’s composite Ganga-Jamuna tehzeeb (an all-inclusive composite Indian culture), the atmosphere of sarvdharma sambhav (all religions being equal) was under threat. Now these tensions will vanish after this meeting. It will lead to a conducive climate (that will help ease misunderstanding between Hindus and Muslims).

“The spreading of communal hatred by some elements in India doesn’t harm Modi or me personally. It harms the idea of India. It harms India,” Ilyasi said.

Image: Imam Umer Ahmed Ilyasi, chief imam of the All India Imam Organisation, with Prime Minister Narendra Modi during the meeting.
Maulanas to Modi: We are not outsiders in Hindustan - Rediff.com India News

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Finally, The maulanas came around, What Subramaniyam Swamy was saying for a long time, they accepted their Ancestors as Hindus now.I guess 1 Year rule of BJP was enough to make them sane enough to dispel their illusions.
Kudos to Subramaniyam Swamy who took up this Hindu ancestor issue first, now the Maulanas acknowledge it.:lol: Swamy always is a one man army, he leads the way and others soon fall in line ;)
 
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Kudos. If you can put nation first and sincerely work to strengthen her while respecting her culture, I have nothing but admiration for you.

Accepting our lineage and heritage is critical to national integrity.

Finally, The maulanas came around, What Subramaniyam Swamy was saying for a long time, they accepted their Ancestors as Hindus now.I guess 1 Year rule of BJP was enough to make them sane enough to dispel their illusions.
Kudos to Subramaniyam Swamy who took up this Hindu ancestor issue first, now the Maulanas acknowledge it.:lol: Swamy always is a one man army, he leads the way and others soon fall in line ;)

Well some of them have stared to come around anyway. This is despite the Presstitutes and AsarshLiberals and our neighbors doing all they could to create a sense of fear and panic.

This is also why you don't bet against Swamy. He knows what he is talking about and more often than not comes out on top.
 
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Kudos. If you can put nation first and sincerely work to strengthen her while respecting her culture, I have nothing but admiration for you.

Accepting our lineage and heritage is critical to national integrity.



Well some of them have stared to come around anyway. This is despite the Presstitutes and AsarshLiberals and our neighbors doing all they could to create a sense of fear and panic.

This is also why you don't bet against Swamy. He knows what he is talking about and more often than not comes out on top.

This is indeed great news. We all have to accept our common heritage. Swamy is a loose cannon though if only he could dial down the crazy part a bit i think he would have made an excellent cabinet minister. May be HRD
 
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This is indeed great news. We all have to accept our common heritage. Swamy is a loose cannon though if only he could dial down the crazy part a bit i think he would have made an excellent cabinet minister. May be HRD

He can be volatile and individualistic. Don't believe he will listen to anyone. TO some, not minister material.

Such people make great crusaders as he has demonstrated over the years. If he were to have a ministry, I'd go for him as Finance minister in the next term, to take fundamental and tough economic decisions that would cause real waves.

You should listen to him on P-notes and taxation, good ideas but perhaps a bit too revolutionary for a first term.
 
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He can be volatile and individualistic. Don't believe he will listen to anyone. TO some, not minister material.

Such people make great crusaders as he has demonstrated over the years. If he were to have a ministry, I'd go for him as Finance minister in the next term, to take fundamental and tough economic decisions that would cause real waves.

You should listen to him on P-notes and taxation, good ideas but perhaps a bit too revolutionary for a first term.

I know all about his views on finance. In my B-School, he delivered 5 guest lectures. Frankly speaking his ideas won't ever be implemented in India due to too many vested interests. However he is an extremely well educated and articulate man and has the gumption to reform Indian educational system which he wont be allowed to do in more important ministries like Finance and Defense
 
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We muslims have a distinct identity and are in no way Indians. Our legends are those of Ahmed Shah Durrani, Mir Chakar Khan Rind, Mahmud Ghaznavi among many others. The more recent laid back attitude of other muslims left in Indian occupied parts and their support to people like Kalam Azad is a threat to the entire well being of our people who must fight for their rights and ask the question why property taken from us in Hyderabad and Lucknow has not been returned to us since the partition.

My parents were born in Lucknow but they are Pakistani and Pakistan will and should forever be in the heart of every muslim left there. We are one body. You can cut the head but it will always belong to one body. We muslims should not become slaves of India specially since they are the killers of our people.
 
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We muslims have a distinct identity and are in no way Indians. Our legends are those of Ahmed Shah Durrani, Mir Chakar Khan Rind, Mahmud Ghaznavi among many others. The more recent laid back attitude of other muslims left in Indian occupied parts and their support to people like Kalam Azad is a threat to the entire well being of our people who must fight for their rights and ask the question why property taken from us in Hyderabad and Lucknow has not been returned to us since the partition.

My parents were born in Lucknow but they are Pakistani and Pakistan will and should forever be in the heart of every muslim left there. We are one body. You can cut the head but it will always belong to one body. We muslims should not become slaves of India specially since they are the killers of our people.
cheers to that :cheers:

aaj mere bhi thodi zaada ho gayi hai. Hic
 
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We muslims have a distinct identity and are in no way Indians. Our legends are those of Ahmed Shah Durrani, Mir Chakar Khan Rind, Mahmud Ghaznavi among many others. The more recent laid back attitude of other muslims left in Indian occupied parts and their support to people like Kalam Azad is a threat to the entire well being of our people who must fight for their rights and ask the question why property taken from us in Hyderabad and Lucknow has not been returned to us since the partition.

My parents were born in Lucknow but they are Pakistani and Pakistan will and should forever be in the heart of every muslim left there. We are one body. You can cut the head but it will always belong to one body. We muslims should not become slaves of India specially since they are the killers of our people.

Just to clarify are you saying that all Muslims are descendants of Ahmed Shah Durrani, Mir Chakar Khan Rind, Mahmud Ghaznavi and people who came with them? and there were no conversions (forcible or otherwise)
 
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Has that Slow Retard Firangi Mahli attended the meeting :lol:

All these Maulanas are related to RSS and BJP especially those Shiya Imams like Qalbe Jawad who instruct Shiyas to Take all their Family members to vote for BJP inside Shia Mosque :lol:

We muslims have a distinct identity and are in no way Indians. Our legends are those of Ahmed Shah Durrani, Mir Chakar Khan Rind, Mahmud Ghaznavi among many others. The more recent laid back attitude of other muslims left in Indian occupied parts and their support to people like Kalam Azad is a threat to the entire well being of our people who must fight for their rights and ask the question why property taken from us in Hyderabad and Lucknow has not been returned to us since the partition.

My parents were born in Lucknow but they are Pakistani and Pakistan will and should forever be in the heart of every muslim left there. We are one body. You can cut the head but it will always belong to one body. We muslims should not become slaves of India specially since they are the killers of our people.
This is about Indian Muslims not Pakistanis of Arab Descent

Thanks
 
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We muslims have a distinct identity and are in no way Indians. Our legends are those of Ahmed Shah Durrani, Mir Chakar Khan Rind, Mahmud Ghaznavi among many others. The more recent laid back attitude of other muslims left in Indian occupied parts and their support to people like Kalam Azad is a threat to the entire well being of our people who must fight for their rights and ask the question why property taken from us in Hyderabad and Lucknow has not been returned to us since the partition.

My parents were born in Lucknow but they are Pakistani and Pakistan will and should forever be in the heart of every muslim left there. We are one body. You can cut the head but it will always belong to one body. We muslims should not become slaves of India specially since they are the killers of our people.

Indian muslims are eagerly waiting for Pakistanis like you ke kab tum unhe is kaid se chhudaoge
 
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Has that Slow Retard Firangi Mahli attended the meeting :lol:

All these Maulanas are related to RSS and BJP especially those Shiya Imams like Qalbe Jawad who instruct Shiyas to Take all their Family members to vote for BJP inside Shia Mosque :lol:


This is about Indian Muslims not Pakistanis of Arab Descent

Thanks

I am from one side a firangi mahali from chowk in Lucknow. We are extremely tolerant people. Don't mark our tolerance as subservience. If the Indian state tries to vanquish us we will do everything to break India into a thousand pieces. Muslims left there specially in the past have been vocal supporters of Pakistan. The changes are more recent. Ask my grand father who was a staunch support of the AIML, which later became PML.
 
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