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Written by:Slav Defence
Since 1947 till now ,Pakistan is being ruled by small land owners and thugs,each using ethnic or religious card.The bitter truth is that Pakistani subject have elected them on their own due to exploitation of fear.
One of the worse consequence is they have now gained power and established their own militant wing-they made massive corruption and now reside deep within our system & infrastructure.
Another consequence is that various issues were mishandled by them as a result of which our response towards our worse enemies was not as much effective as it should be.We have taken a very long time to recognize our worse enemy and to establish 5-dimension counter terrorism policy from 3-dimensional.
Our worse enemies are united against us and making every attempt to malign peace and prosperity from our land of pure,while on the other hand these corrupted politicians are paving way for their generations to rule us.Thus,we are letting them to manipulate our minds and giving them exactly what they want: ethnic ,religious ,cultural division so that they could sow seeds of anarchy and destruction.
Today is march,23-a day which recalls us of glorious moment when our forefathers were united for a single cause:establishing a land of pure,where they have forgotten all sort of difference and they have clearly defined their objective
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.Our forefathers were resisting two major powers in the sub continent:British and Hindu.They were powerless,helpless and unaware of their orientation and objectives.However,they still showed resistance and set their own objectives at Lahore resolution, and then despite of all their weakness ,they achieved a land of pure for us.

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In today's world,our position is stronger than past. We own a land,we are recognized, we are nuclear power and stronger than any other country in Asia and Africa.We are backed up by wonderful army and strong agencies who gifted us 80 dead bodies of these minotaurs just few days back.
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We have made huge mistakes in past and it was slow process to diagnose it.However,now we must unite and make every effort to overcome it.We must finish what they have started.We must destroy this labyrinth and kill these minotaurs which are tearing us apart.It is time to destroy these hell raisers and sent them back to their small lands,where they come from,it is time to make massive crackdown and destroy their sources from which they are getting power to destroy us

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Today,we must pass another resolution:

"Reclaiming back land of pure from terrorists and political backstabbers ,without letting them to manipulate facts and exploiting fear."

It is time to slap on their faces and to say:

"Stop playing bloody politics,stop making corruption in Bhutto's remorse for god sake.We don't need your armed protection in Karachi, we don't need metro bus service in Lahore.We want peace,corruption free system and justice "

Regards
 
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75years 've passed since the Lahore resolution!
Congratulations Pakistan!!
Slav Defence said:
Our forefathers were resisting two major powers in the sub continent:British and Hindu
You 're right to an extent!
I've heard accounts where ppl said muslims were treated worst than untouchables by hindus prior to independence.I'm not surprised really! Caste is an evil that we've been trying to get done with. Vedas asked its followers (of sanatana dharma) to believe in one god, or the spark of god in every soul. Unfortunately like every other religion, our religious texts were also misinterpreted(intentionally). But the discussion on the why's and how's can be left for another day.
Let me not digress further!
Getting back on the topic, I would say that it only made sense to create 2 homogeneous states on the ground realities of multi-religious society, Indian leader Ambedkar supported this idea as much as Jinnah.Pakistan emerged a ‘homogeneous’ state, but that didnt solve the problem.
Faced with terror, minorities in both Pakistan and India would say the last century’s political machines 've left 'em more precarious than ever.
Unfortunately in a challenging environment the negativity gets more projection and the true performers stop short of letting people know their part of the story, but I'm not a pessimist I know that these 're normal cycles in any developing country.
The stock markets 're improving, food import has reduced but the terrorism in Pakistan has doubled, crippling your government. But I must say that the fight against terrorism has visibly improved.
Inshallah! One day Pakistan would be what Jinnah imagined it to be, a peaceful and progressing state for muslims and the minorities.(Jinnah always promised protection to the minorities).
As a citizen of a neighboring country I wish Pakistan all the best in all its endeavors, I strongly believe that a peaceful neighborhood would be in my country's favor too.
I 've somehow always detested the words "Nuclear-power", I wish that word was not associated with my country or any other country which believes in peace. But in today's world peace is achieved through violence. Unfortunate!

Slav Defence said:
"Reclaiming back land of pure from terrorists and political backstabbers ,without letting them to manipulate facts and exploiting fear."
Amen!

@Slav Defence your article shows the true patriot in you. :tup:
 
Pakistan-Senate.jpg


Written by:Slav Defence
Since 1947 till now ,Pakistan is being ruled by small land owners and thugs,each using ethnic or religious card.The bitter truth is that Pakistani subject have elected them on their own due to exploitation of fear.
One of the worse consequence is they have now gained power and established their own militant wing-they made massive corruption and now reside deep within our system & infrastructure.
Another consequence is that various issues were mishandled by them as a result of which our response towards our worse enemies was not as much effective as it should be.We have taken a very long time to recognize our worse enemy and to establish 5-dimension counter terrorism policy from 3-dimensional.
Our worse enemies are united against us and making every attempt to malign peace and prosperity from our land of pure,while on the other hand these corrupted politicians are paving way for their generations to rule us.Thus,we are letting them to manipulate our minds and giving them exactly what they want: ethnic ,religious ,cultural division so that they could sow seeds of anarchy and destruction.
Today is march,23-a day which recalls us of glorious moment when our forefathers were united for a single cause:establishing a land of pure,where they have forgotten all sort of difference and they have clearly defined their objective
MamdotLahore-Session.jpg


.Our forefathers were resisting two major powers in the sub continent:British and Hindu.They were powerless,helpless and unaware of their orientation and objectives.However,they still showed resistance and set their own objectives at Lahore resolution, and then despite of all their weakness ,they achieved a land of pure for us.

Pakistan-Army1.jpg

In today's world,our position is stronger than past. We own a land,we are recognized, we are nuclear power and stronger than any other country in Asia and Africa.We are backed up by wonderful army and strong agencies who gifted us 80 dead bodies of these minotaurs just few days back.
zarbeazb.jpg

We have made huge mistakes in past and it was slow process to diagnose it.However,now we must unite and make every effort to overcome it.We must finish what they have started.We must destroy this labyrinth and kill these minotaurs which are tearing us apart.It is time to destroy these hell raisers and sent them back to their small lands,where they come from,it is time to make massive crackdown and destroy their sources from which they are getting power to destroy us

200503250004077024.jpg

Today,we must pass another resolution:

"Reclaiming back land of pure from terrorists and political backstabbers ,without letting them to manipulate facts and exploiting fear."

It is time to slap on their faces and to say:

"Stop playing bloody politics,stop making corruption in Bhutto's remorse for god sake.We don't need your armed protection in Karachi, we don't need metro bus service in Lahore.We want peace,corruption free system and justice "

Regards
Is it a satire ?

75years 've passed since the Lahore resolution!
Congratulations Pakistan!!

You 're right to an extent!
I've heard accounts where ppl said muslims were treated worst than untouchables by hindus prior to independence.I'm not surprised really! Caste is an evil that we've been trying to get done with. Vedas asked its followers (of sanatana dharma) to believe in one god, or the spark of god in every soul. Unfortunately like every other religion, our religious texts were also misinterpreted(intentionally). But the discussion on the why's and how's can be left for another day.
Let me not digress further!
Getting back on the topic, I would say that it only made sense to create 2 homogeneous states on the ground realities of multi-religious society, Indian leader Ambedkar supported this idea as much as Jinnah.Pakistan emerged a ‘homogeneous’ state, but that didnt solve the problem.
Faced with terror, minorities in both Pakistan and India would say the last century’s political machines 've left 'em more precarious than ever.
Unfortunately in a challenging environment the negativity gets more projection and the true performers stop short of letting people know their part of the story, but I'm not a pessimist I know that these 're normal cycles in any developing country.
The stock markets 're improving, food import has reduced but the terrorism in Pakistan has doubled, crippling your government. But I must say that the fight against terrorism has visibly improved.
Inshallah! One day Pakistan would be what Jinnah imagined it to be, a peaceful and progressing state for muslims and the minorities.(Jinnah always promised protection to the minorities).
As a citizen of a neighboring country I wish Pakistan all the best in all its endeavors, I strongly believe that a peaceful neighborhood would be in my country's favor too.
I 've somehow always detested the words "Nuclear-power", I wish that word was not associated with my country or any other country which believes in peace. But in today's world peace is achieved through violence. Unfortunate!


Amen!

@Slav Defence your article shows the true patriot in you. :tup:
I would rather say that Hindus are curse to humanity. They are just like viruses. They can only work in a good way when they are enslaved. I wish these Hindus get right treatment in future by Pious Muslims. Inshallah they will get it.
 
75years 've passed since the Lahore resolution!
Congratulations Pakistan!!

You 're right to an extent!
I've heard accounts where ppl said muslims were treated worst than untouchables by hindus prior to independence.I'm not surprised really! Caste is an evil that we've been trying to get done with. Vedas asked its followers (of sanatana dharma) to believe in one god, or the spark of god in every soul. Unfortunately like every other religion, our religious texts were also misinterpreted(intentionally). But the discussion on the why's and how's can be left for another day.
Let me not digress further!
Getting back on the topic, I would say that it only made sense to create 2 homogeneous states on the ground realities of multi-religious society, Indian leader Ambedkar supported this idea as much as Jinnah.Pakistan emerged a ‘homogeneous’ state, but that didnt solve the problem.
Faced with terror, minorities in both Pakistan and India would say the last century’s political machines 've left 'em more precarious than ever.
Unfortunately in a challenging environment the negativity gets more projection and the true performers stop short of letting people know their part of the story, but I'm not a pessimist I know that these 're normal cycles in any developing country.
The stock markets 're improving, food import has reduced but the terrorism in Pakistan has doubled, crippling your government. But I must say that the fight against terrorism has visibly improved.
Inshallah! One day Pakistan would be what Jinnah imagined it to be, a peaceful and progressing state for muslims and the minorities.(Jinnah always promised protection to the minorities).
As a citizen of a neighboring country I wish Pakistan all the best in all its endeavors, I strongly believe that a peaceful neighborhood would be in my country's favor too.
I 've somehow always detested the words "Nuclear-power", I wish that word was not associated with my country or any other country which believes in peace. But in today's world peace is achieved through violence. Unfortunate!


Amen!

@Slav Defence your article shows the true patriot in you. :tup:
Dear Levina,
I thank you for your kind and supportive words.Please do not misunderstand when I used the term: Hindu.I meant not hateful but factual.Hindus were emerging political power at that time.Like us it was their right to maintain their position.Whatsoever occured was destined.
Levina,problem here is even right after partition ,we didn't attempted to make peace,instead we recognized each other as threat.The reason behind this failure was unsolved Kashmir issue. If it was sorted out at that time,then our position might be entirely different.
About minority rights,Jinnah sir dreamt of providing them freedom of practicing their religion as well as provision of safeguard.May your prayer becomes true,and both countries proceed ahead and enjoy new era if peaceful relationship

Regards

Is it a satire ?


I would rather say that Hindus are curse to humanity. They are just like viruses. They can only work in a good way when they are enslaved. I wish these Hindus get right treatment in future by Pious Muslims. Inshallah they will get it.
Please quit spitting venom and stop trolling.
Why do you hate us so much?what kind of response you want me to give you.Some PDF posters are filled with hate and nasty approach.I can't give you flowers in return!?
Hindus are emotional people. If treated with love,respect and provided an open environment,then they will be finest people on earth.Hindus are intelligent people,and it is wonderful to even have them as enemies :D
Regards
 
Dear Levina,
I thank you for your kind and supportive words.Please do not misunderstand when I used the term: Hindu.I meant not hateful but factual.Hindus were emerging political power at that time.Like us it was their right to maintain their position.Whatsoever occured was destined.
Levina,problem here is even right after partition ,we didn't attempted to make peace,instead we recognized each other as threat.The reason behind this failure was unsolved Kashmir issue. If it was sorted out at that time,then our position might be entirely different.
About minority rights,Jinnah sir dreamt of providing them freedom of practicing their religion as well as provision of safeguard.May your prayer becomes true,and both countries proceed ahead and enjoy new era if peaceful relationship

Regards


Please quit spitting venom and stop trolling.
Why do you hate us so much?what kind of response you want me to give you.Some PDF posters are filled with hate and nasty approach.I can't give you flowers in return!?
Hindus are emotional people. If treated with love,respect and provided an open environment,then they will be finest people on earth.Hindus are intelligent people,and it is wonderful to even have them as enemies :D
Regards
I told you the fact. see @levina is also agree with that. Why do you think Pakistan was created ? Hindus are basically cunning people. They dont even support their own. Do you think they will support any one else ? Look at the Indians here. They dont even support each other. You are right in saying that " ur forefathers were resisting two major powers in the sub continent:British and Hindu " . Also let me tell you one thing. Think carefully. you will realize that Hindus are the people who did great works when enslaved by Arabs or British. Its true. Dont you think Hindus have forcefully occupied muslim Kashmir land ? Even @levina will agree with that.
 
slav still writes awkward poorly written pieces, this time with pics... looks like hard work is not substitute for talent as far as writing is concerned.(which is really sad, its opposite in other fields)..:coffee:
although am being harsh if OP is very young.
 
It appears until they(Pakistani) don't malign or vilify Hindus the very purpose of existence of today's Pakistan cant be justified however I give more credit to the notion of insecurity n absence of belief of co-existence(in derogatory sense to live with Hindu beliefs) among the Muslims.....
Rest we Indians are always happy with partition .... Koti koti dhanyavad to Jinnah Ji....
 
It appears until they(Pakistani) don't malign or vilify Hindus the very purpose of existence of today's Pakistan cant be justified however I give more credit to the notion of insecurity n absence of belief of co-existence(in derogatory sense to live with Hindu beliefs) among the Muslims.....
Rest we Indians are always happy with partition .... Koti koti dhanyavad to Jinnah Ji....
Which Indian ? Only Hindutvavadis are happy. Seculars are not happy. And Jinnah was more secular than any Indian. Hindus have oppressed muslims before 1947. Thats why partition happened.
 
Which Indian ? Only Hindutvavadis are happy. Seculars are not happy. And Jinnah was more secular than any Indian. Hindus have oppressed muslims before 1947. Thats why partition happened.
Who give damn about Seculars that too of Khoongressi version..... Lets not derail the discussion here as it is not about India.....
I could grasp one thing from OP is the loathsome feeling of muslim towards hindus still prevail among the masses..... Good way of building a new Pakistan n marching for justice.....
 
Who give damn about Seculars that too of Khoongressi version..... Lets not derail the discussion here as it is not about India.....
I could grasp one thing from OP is the loathsome feeling of muslim towards hindus still prevail among the masses..... Good way of building a new Pakistan n marching for justice.....
But he is right. and respected secular indian members also agree with that.
 
But he is right. and respected secular indian members also agree with that.
Secular who Gandhi Nehru clans? I never consider them secular as they never had spine to stand by the true secularism....
They are best known for appeasemet of minority in the name of secularism.....
Those who never had a spine or stood against the wrongdoings of others were projected as a a messiah of Indian ppl n this has been true legacy of Gandhi-Nehru clans....
@levina do you believe Gandhi n Jinnah were the true secularist?

Origin of Muslim Appeasement - Mahatma Gandhi and Moplah Rebellion | Sulekha Creative
 
Secular who Gandhi Nehru clans? I never consider them secular as they never had spine to stand by the true secularism....
They are best known for appeasemet of minority in the name of secularism.....
Those who never had a spine or stood against the wrongdoings of others were projected as a a messiah of Indian ppl n this has been true legacy of Gandhi-Nehru clans....
@levina do you believe Gandhi n Jinnah were the true secularist?

Origin of Muslim Appeasement - Mahatma Gandhi and Moplah Rebellion | Sulekha Creative
Some are present here. And there number is very high.
 
Dear Levina,
I thank you for your kind and supportive words.Please do not misunderstand when I used the term: Hindu.I meant not hateful but factual.Hindus were emerging political power at that time.Like us it was their right to maintain their position.Whatsoever occured was destined.
I would call partition as India's fate.

Levina,problem here is even right after partition ,we didn't attempted to make peace,instead we recognized each other as threat.The reason behind this failure was unsolved Kashmir issue. If it was sorted out at that time,then our position might be entirely different.
Kashmir has always been the bone of contention between the 2 countries (ur's and mine!). But frankly I dont believe talks would ever get us to any solution, infact right now there's no solution to Kashmir unless one of the countries gives up its claim on Kashmir. The issue becomes a gargantuan one when we realise that kashmir is not just about the muslims living in Kashmir but also the Buddhists, Sikhs, hindus/kashmiri Pandits etc who also stay in that region.
I dont see peace in the region anytime soon.
. Dont you think Hindus have forcefully occupied muslim Kashmir land ? Even @levina will agree with that.
Biplab had you not been a friend you would 've received a crisper answer for that, but otheriwse I think that there's nothing worth replying to in your vacuous post.
But he is right. and respected secular indian members also agree with that.

taking a dig at me eh??? Lolzzzz
You know what?
Sometimes it helps to read between lines and understand what a member (in this case me) has written. As they say "its better to keep shut and be thought as a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"
Secular who Gandhi Nehru clans? I never consider them secular as they never had spine to stand by the true secularism....
They are best known for appeasemet of minority in the name of secularism.....
Those who never had a spine or stood against the wrongdoings of others were projected as a a messiah of Indian ppl n this has been true legacy of Gandhi-Nehru clans....
@levina do you believe Gandhi n Jinnah were the true secularist?

Origin of Muslim Appeasement - Mahatma Gandhi and Moplah Rebellion | Sulekha Creative
@utraash where did I call Jinnah or Gandhi a secular that you felt the need to post a link for me to read?? First let me clear that only a state can be secular and NOT people.
Jinnah was a smart man, he knew that it was practically impossible to achieve a completely homogeneous state and so did the Indian leaders, ergo they(Jinnah and Nehru)had always said that they would protect the minorities. And the words in Lahore resolution "adequate, effective and mandatory safeguards” for minorities that would form a part of these “independent states” proves me right.
Our partition model was planned not to be a failure like the League of Nations Minority Treaties, that underpinned the formation of new European nation-states out of old multi-ethnic empires. It was desired that our partition be a success like internationally sanctioned, planned exchanges of populations between Bulgaria, Greece, and Turkey, under the Treaties of Neuilly and Lausanne in 1919 and 1923.
But unfortunately things did not go as planned!
In my very personal opinion partition, should 've never happened but like Dr.Ambedkar rightly identified the problem as the existence of majorities and minorities, which he called “the crying evils of the day”, and ergo it was a reasonable solution in his view to create the create homogenous nation-states.
I am quoting Ambedkar here because it was his article which was published after the Lahore Resolution which made a significant impact(not that Lahore resolution didnt!).
 
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