Manohar Parrikar to axe former Defence Minister AK Antony's rule on arms deals

[Abingdonboy]

Nah, considering Pakstan has successfully managed to trap nearly half of the Indian military in a quagmire in Muslim Kashmir for a quarter of century now.

Lol, if you think there is anything like that many Indian army personnel in Kashmir you are smoking some strong stuff.

The number won't even be 100,000 including RR btns and those deployed along the LoC.

The Arab world is turning to Pakistan for military assistance in Yemen today not the rising and the shinning Supa Powa India.

Because they know India would never even consider such a request committing its military to someone else's war, whilst the Pak Military is ready to play mercenary for anyone willing to make a decent offer...

 

[Swaha]

Nah, considering Pakstan has successfully managed to trap nearly half of the Indian military in a quagmire in Muslim Kashmir for a quarter of century now.

Still dreaming of Kashmir?

The Arab world is turning to Pakistan for military assistance in Yemen today not the rising and the shinning Supa Powa India.

Why would they ask India, we didn't take any free money from Arabs.

 

[Levina]

Kuch thoraa botaa !

This is called blowing one's trumpet.

What....you haven't watched it ?

You really should....it is loadz of fun !

Have you watched the BBC documentary "The day India burned"??
I had asked you to watch it. Remember??

 

[MilSpec]

Kuch thoraa botaa !



What....you haven't watched it ?

You really should....it is loadz of fun !

there was an indian show of the same nature, called Jee Mantri Ji, with the late farrukh shah playing the a journalist turned minister, this was at the cusp when stupid saas-bahu shows ruined indian tv shows. I used to thorughly engoy that show.

Nah, considering Pakstan has successfully managed to trap nearly half of the Indian military in a quagmire in Muslim Kashmir for a quarter of century now.

The Arab world is turning to Pakistan for military assistance in Yemen today not the rising and the shinning Supa Powa India.

considering the it costed you more than half your country, was it even worth it...

 

[kaku1]

Nah, considering Pakstan has successfully managed to trap nearly half of the Indian military in a quagmire in Muslim Kashmir for a quarter of century now.

What a great achievement. BTW those are CAPF personnel, not of IA. IA still in barracks.

 

[Hulk]

Great news, A K Antony by his stupidity has single handedly delayed all procurement. Now Manohar Parikar is cleaning the mess.

 

[Cyberian]

So basically you are proud if they want to die your people for their war? Just for money

Arab never did nor they will do same for Pakistan in any war...

Defence of Makkah and Madina is more important than defence of Islamabad.

... Because they know India would never even consider such a request committing its military to someone else's war, whilst the Pak Military is ready to play mercenary for anyone willing to make a decent offer...

Why? Have the Indians already forgotten their military adventure of the 1980s in Sri Lanka?

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Why would they ask India, we didn't take any free money from Arabs.

India's Hamdard University gets $5m Saudi aid | Arab News

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considering the it costed you more than half your country, was it even worth it...

Mr Think Tank, the "costed" occurred in 1971 but the revenge started in 1989 and still going strong.

Considering the democratically elected Hindu Extremist Prime Minister Narendra Modi requested the U.S. for investment to build toilets for his people 44-years after the "costed" occurred, do you still think the panga with Pakistan was worth it? I think China became the 2nd largest economy in 2010)

 

[genmirajborgza786]

Defence of Makkah and Madina is more important than defence of Islamabad.



Why? Have the Indians already forgotten their military adventure of the 1980s in Sri Lanka?



India's Hamdard University gets $5m Saudi aid | Arab News



Mr Think Tank, the "costed" occurred in 1971 but the revenge started in 1989 and still going strong.

Considering the democratically elected Hindu Extremist Prime Minister Narendra Modi requested the U.S. for investment to build toilets for his people 44-years after the "costed" occurred, do you still think the panga with Pakistan was worth it? I think China became the 2nd largest economy in 2010)

dude your post is not making any sense , what exactly are you trying to say , I mean What has Sri Lanka or hamdard university got to to with this ?

 

[Cyberian]

dude your post is not making any sense , what exactly are you trying to say , I mean What has Sri Lanka or hamdard university got to to with this ?

I was responding to 4 different people. Scroll up.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

@Abingdonboy Sorry, but I'm not so sure now. 'removing stops' might also help him push through lame duck deals without any accountability

Rafale deal: Modi's Parisian blunder

 

[kaykay]

One thing is clear, Parrikar can take decisions and that is most important. Antony was like MMS, honest but puppets.

 

[Didact]

Nah, considering Pakstan has successfully managed to trap nearly half of the Indian military in a quagmire in Muslim Kashmir for a quarter of century now.

The Arab world is turning to Pakistan for military assistance in Yemen today not the rising and the shinning Supa Powa India.

There are currently around 200,000 troops in J&K, that's around 1/6 of the total numerical strength of the IA, not 1/2. And of these, around 60,000 are facing China, leaving some 140,000 troops for the LOC/IB.

The only thing Jihadists have managed is to fill the valley with CAPF forces, which are not the same as the Army. Even if a million CAPF troops were to be deployed in the valley, the fighting potential of the IA is unimpeded. The army commits only about 55,000 troop into COIN ops in J&K, that too in the form of RR units, which again are not part of combat ORBAT.

In short, you are not tying up anyone. Of course though, those additional CAPF forces allow us to keep large number of forces in the valley, without affecting the army.

And the Arabs don't ask the 'rising and shining Supa Powa' India for military assistance because they know we are not interested in turning our soldiers into cattle fodder for a stupid war.

 

[anant_s]

Antony had decreed that any defence purchase must be put on hold in the event of a complaint or allegation against the deal.

Even in the Court of Law, a person is assumed innocent till proved Guilty, so one can easily understand how stupid the rule was, especially in context of slow and tortuous route followed for procurement for Armed forces.
& i often thought that having such a policy gives a wrong tool in hands of competitors, to de-rail the negotiations and ultimately ship-wreck the whole process of tendering, not only leading to loss of time but also severely denting capability of forces.
This news comes as a pleasant surprise. Mr. Parrikar is proving to be a street smart guy who certainly knows how to traverse through the maze and uncertainties of defence procurement.

Antony desired to keep his image of a spotlessly clean politician intact.

Unfortunately the cost of keeping his track record clean cost defence establishment a huge. I'm sure when we look back (especially the period of 2004-2007, massive economic growth of Indian economy and when no bigticket decision were taken on long term planning for armed forces), it will be sadly seen as Lost Decade.

 

[Abingdonboy]

@Abingdonboy Sorry, but I'm not so sure now. 'removing stops' might also help him push through lame duck deals without any accountability

Rafale deal: Modi's Parisian blunder

Leave the Rafale deal to one side. What this move is saying is that investigations will run into the validity of any claims or wrongdoing in PARALLEL and won't automatically cause all work on such deals to halt as was the policy under the great Saint. No one is saying there won't be scrutiny of any deals just that the Indian military won't be allowed to suffer because of competition arms companies placing malicious and unfounded graft claims against one another.


There will still be accountability.


The system Antony had placed was good for him (kept HIS image clean) but at what cost? The Indian military is in a PATHETIC state of affairs and servicemen are literally DYING as a result, do you really not think some measures need to be put in place that speed up defence procurements? I understand you have a certain political outlook but surely you have to put that aside and think about your military first sir? They are suffering because of these political games of the past, give some praise where praise is due.

 

[Levina]

Leave the Rafale deal to one side. What this move is saying is that investigations will run into the validity of any claims or wrongdoing in PARALLEL and won't automatically cause all work on such deals to halt as was the policy under the great Saint. No one is saying there won't be scrutiny of any deals just that the Indian military won't be allowed to suffer because of competition arms companies placing malicious and unfounded graft claims against one another.


There will still be accountability.


The system Antony had placed was good for him (kept HIS image clean) but at what cost? The Indian military is in a PATHETIC state of affairs and servicemen are literally DYING as a result, do you really not think some measures need to be put in place that speed up defence procurements? I understand you have a certain political outlook but surely you have to put that aside and think about your military first sir? They are suffering because of these political games of the past, give some praise where praise is due.

Your constant "sirrrring" him, and not your post, will earn you his ire.
@Guynextdoor2