Maldives refuses Pakistan's offer of aircraft

[RayOfLight]

Tough luck..

 

[Dash]

Nope Pakistani company Wapda is developing Maldives infrastructure and deal is signed and paid. India cannot stop that

There is no need to stop any developmental project in any country by any country. Maldives is our strategic partner and we have different interests there. So wapda or pakoda doesnt matter.

 

[LASER1]

Rremember this?
Now dont get your expectations too high and calm down.

Maldives Snubs India Again, Inks Power Sector Deal With Pakistan

The move is seen as another snub to India after it recently scrapped a helicopter deal with New Delhi.
Pakistan and the Maldives have signed a Memorandum of Understanding or MoU to support the island nation's infrastructure development in the power sector. The move is seen as another snub to India after it recently scrapped a helicopter deal with New Delhi.

Good ol days boy. Things changed since the new President.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Get Tejas cause soon both your country and plane will be under water .

 

[Cookie Monster]

I really dont understand why Pakistanis are jumping so much even though power games are being played by India and China and recently china is on a losing streak in island nations in IOR.

U still stuck in that 2012 SupaPowa vision? Wake up and smell the coffee. The power games are being played by actual superpowers of the world...India is nothing but a pawn at best being used by the West to keep China busy. China is the main threat as an emerging power that might challenge the status quo of already established world powers.

As for having regional control and China somehow losing at that to India...go read the news from the last few years. Nepal and Maldives that used to be strictly in Indian camp recently strained their ties with India and roped in China as a counterbalance. Was India able to counter Chinese influence in countries that have been traditionally in Chinese camp? Nope. Idk in what universe would one country consider itself victorious by losing grips on two traditionally close allies at the hands of its foe.

And yet here we have Pak members all happy like they have won some kind of war in maldives.
Its just 1 commercial contract, and honestly in present scenario if India says so maldives would cancel the project with pak and give it to some India company but we wont do that coz we dont operate like China.

Oh so u mean India is willingly losing out money from this infrastructure project that would clearly have gone to some Indian firm just out of benevolence?

All of these are tall claims about what India can or can't do. Why not back up ur words with actions? I'm sure Indian companies wouldn't mind making a decent profit...go ahead and take this project away from Pak.

And forget about any military deal with them, they aint paying a dollar for any arms and equipment, their priority is to pay back loans and balance it with infra needs for which India is providing financial aid.

It doesn't matter...Pak's making plenty of military sales. U don't need to worry about it.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

But happened to the Supa Wupa Supa Mushak

If this is the reason, you should have liked sale of our aircraft to Maldives as well.. lolll

We don't have a problem with Myanmar using Jf 17s because they will be used to kill Rohingya terrorists.

lol . they should go and wail to China .

I wonder if China will buy JF 17s? It is pretty telling that the country that made those fighters wants nothing to do with them.

U still stuck in that 2012 SupaPowa vision? Wake up and smell the coffee. The power games are being played by actual superpowers of the world...India is nothing but a pawn at best being used by the West to keep China busy. China is the main threat as an emerging power that might challenge the status quo of already established world powers.

As for having regional control and China somehow losing at that to India...go read the news from the last few years. Nepal and Maldives that used to be strictly in Indian camp recently strained their ties with India and roped in China as a counterbalance. Was India able to counter Chinese influence in countries that have been traditionally in Chinese camp? Nope. Idk in what universe would one country consider itself victorious by losing grips on two traditionally close allies at the hands of its foe.

Oh so u mean India is willingly losing out money from this infrastructure project that would clearly have gone to some Indian firm just out of benevolence?

All of these are tall claims about what India can or can't do. Why not back up ur words with actions? I'm sure Indian companies wouldn't mind making a decent profit...go ahead and take this project away from Pak.

It doesn't matter...Pak's making plenty of military sales. U don't need to worry about it.

Malaysia and Indonesia. Previously those countries were pro China, but now they are rejecting key OBOR projects. Indonesia even let us develop a port into a naval base that happens to sit right next to the Strait of Mallaca, which we can use in theory to cut off almost all trade with China. And Chinese influence in South Asia is declining. Even Nepal is realizing that China cannot replace India due to its geography, which is why India and Nepal are already connected while China is still "exploring" the feasibility of tunnels through the Himalayas.
The fact is China's influence is waning throughout Asia. Countries have seen what happened to Sri Lanka and have learned their lesson. The Maldives election is one example. Right now, the only countries that wan Chinese investment are led by dictators like Abdullah Yameen, Mahinda Rajapaksha, and the presidents of Laos and Cambodia. The recent actions in Sri Lanka shows China's desperation. However, it backfired, and Sri Lankans now see China for what it really is. currently the entire Parliament and most Gov. Officials are refusing to accept Rajapaksha's legitimacy, and China will not be able to get more deals there.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Malaysia and Indonesia. Previously those countries were pro China, but now they are rejecting key OBOR projects. Indonesia even let us develop a port into a naval base that happens to sit right next to the Strait of Mallaca, which we can use in theory to cut off almost all trade with China.

Indonesia/Malaysia weren't in the Chinese camp as Nepal/Bhutan/Maldives are with India. Indonesia/Malaysia just kept ties with China...neither hostile nor super friendly. The recent tensions between them doesn't have anything to do with them suddenly picking India over China or anything. It has to do with the rising power of China, which makes them uncomfortable as far their interests go. So in short India didn't sway any super pro China countries...where as China did to a certain extent(recently Maldives/Nepal).

And Chinese influence in South Asia is declining. Even Nepal is realizing that China cannot replace India due to its geography, which is why India and Nepal are already connected while China is still "exploring" the feasibility of tunnels through the Himalayas.

U r right...one of the main reasons Nepal was close to India was not only bcuz of somewhat of a shared culture/religion(Hinduism) but also Nepal being landlocked. Nepal couldn't be at odds with India and survive. However the recent demonstration of Nepal playing China card with India has shown that Nepal has opened its eyes to new possibilities. While it doesn't necessarily mean that Nepal would become enemies with India...it can however reduce its reliance on India in the future, which it couldn't before. Thereby charting its own path rather than being somewhat of a satellite state.

The fact is China's influence is waning throughout Asia. Countries have seen what happened to Sri Lanka and have learned their lesson. The Maldives election is one example. Right now, the only countries that wan Chinese investment are led by dictators like Abdullah Yameen, Mahinda Rajapaksha, and the presidents of Laos and Cambodia. The recent actions in Sri Lanka shows China's desperation. However, it backfired, and Sri Lankans now see China for what it really is. currently the entire Parliament and most Gov. Officials are refusing to accept Rajapaksha's legitimacy, and China will not be able to get more deals there.

That's not true. It's not at all a fact that China's influence in the region is waning. Just compare China's influence today to China's influence in the 1970s. It has only grown...while there is a setback in case of Sri Lanka...it's not enough for other countries to turn away from China. This is bcuz when all is said and done...money talks...and China has plenty to offer. Not just loans but infrastructure development, technology, industry. It is reasons like these that Chinese companies have been grabbing development projects in various different countries.

I'm not making this point as a d*ck measuring contest just to put down India or anything. It's just a fact that China is rising...
...and with all that development/industry/technology/money comes influence and power.

 

[xyxmt]

a free gift is better than an aircraft on loan.

previous free gift came back home so will these India knows it

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Maldives will accept Indian dornier instead

https://twitter.com/x/status/1066838652913766400

Nothing beats freebies.

Rremember this?
Now dont get your expectations too high and calm down.

Maldives Snubs India Again, Inks Power Sector Deal With Pakistan

The move is seen as another snub to India after it recently scrapped a helicopter deal with New Delhi.
Pakistan and the Maldives have signed a Memorandum of Understanding or MoU to support the island nation's infrastructure development in the power sector. The move is seen as another snub to India after it recently scrapped a helicopter deal with New Delhi.

Indian helicopters are donated.

Free vs money.

 

[Aryan0395]

U still stuck in that 2012 SupaPowa vision? Wake up and smell the coffee.

Yeah, woke up and smelt the coffee and realised China has been kicked out of maldives, its in progress in Malaysia and cant do more jack shit in Sri Lanka. Oh wait, it tried, Tried to get Rajpaksa into office, he got thrown out again and Wickramsinghe still rules.

As for having regional control and China somehow losing at that to India...go read the news from the last few years. Nepal and Maldives that used to be strictly in Indian camp recently strained their ties with India and roped in China as a counterbalance.

Looks like its u who needs to read some news. Yes Nepal is still a work in progress, we will get there, but Maldives is done deal.
Indonesia and Malaysia used to be pro china btw, how are they coming along?
Basically if u start to read some paper after smelling ur coffee in the morning, would realise that China has lost influence in IOR countries that are strategically located, Port in Malaysia near malacca strait gone, Deep sea port in Maldives for southern Indian Ocean gone and neither are there any hopes for military use of hambantota.
Whereas we get keep ours in Seychelles, and will be patrolling in Maldives territorial waters (Thank you for that China).
Their only remaining outpost in is Djibouti, and bad luck for them, US sits just 5 miles away from there.

Why not back up ur words with actions?

China did, look what it got them, lost the influence they had built in these countries whereas we got ours back by spending peanuts compared to China's crapload of dollars. Why shall we make the same mistake of going out there ruthlessly whereas same results can be achieved with patience, our patience paid off.

Oh so u mean India is willingly losing out money from this infrastructure project that would clearly have gone to some Indian firm just out of benevolence?

That's peanuts, we just gave $1.4bn aid alongwith other assurances. it can certainly be done, do u really think they would say no?

India is nothing but a pawn at best being used by the West to keep China busy

We care about our interests in IOR. You would be wise to remember these words when ur debt becomes unsustainable and China refuses to bring in 3rd party (How's KSA's participation btw?)

This is bcuz when all is said and done...money talks...and China has plenty to offer. Not just loans but infrastructure development, technology, industry.

Wise words. Money talks.
Why did Pakistan pulled out diamer bhasa dam out of North Indus cascade? didnt IK himself said that conditions are strict which would effectively hand over the control to China? Remember?
Yeah, Money talks, but only to a certain extent. China failed to realise that extent.

 

[hussain0216]

There was no offer, it was just a consideration

The indians are idiotic

They are celebrating their own check mate

These countries were in indias shadow previously, some more then others
Countries like Nepal had no option but to suffer indian delusions if relations went sour


Today this is not the case, India is on a leash if it wants friendship it has to pay for it
It no longer has the ability to blow and bluster
It either pays up, donates freely and keeps its mouth shut or any of these free countries have an alternative


What alternative did Nepal or Maldives etc have before???

Indians have delusions of grandeur, it can be difficult trying to explain no one gives a fcuk about india and how China has changed the game in the region

India has to pay out 1.4 billion plus freebies this time, it will be more next time and China will continue to partake in projects

If these small countries are smart they can milk india and initiate projects with China

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Indonesia/Malaysia weren't in the Chinese camp as Nepal/Bhutan/Maldives are with India. Indonesia/Malaysia just kept ties with China...neither hostile nor super friendly. The recent tensions between them doesn't have anything to do with them suddenly picking India over China or anything. It has to do with the rising power of China, which makes them uncomfortable as far their interests go. So in short India didn't sway any super pro China countries...where as China did to a certain extent(recently Maldives/Nepal).

U r right...one of the main reasons Nepal was close to India was not only bcuz of somewhat of a shared culture/religion(Hinduism) but also Nepal being landlocked. Nepal couldn't be at odds with India and survive. However the recent demonstration of Nepal playing China card with India has shown that Nepal has opened its eyes to new possibilities. While it doesn't necessarily mean that Nepal would become enemies with India...it can however reduce its reliance on India in the future, which it couldn't before. Thereby charting its own path rather than being somewhat of a satellite state.

That's not true. It's not at all a fact that China's influence in the region is waning. Just compare China's influence today to China's influence in the 1970s. It has only grown...while there is a setback in case of Sri Lanka...it's not enough for other countries to turn away from China. This is bcuz when all is said and done...money talks...and China has plenty to offer. Not just loans but infrastructure development, technology, industry. It is reasons like these that Chinese companies have been grabbing development projects in various different countries.

I'm not making this point as a d*ck measuring contest just to put down India or anything. It's just a fact that China is rising...
...and with all that development/industry/technology/money comes influence and power.

Oh of course Chinas power is rising. But it's influence within most countries is falling now that countries are waking up to China's debt trap diplomacy. Which means that China will have to get what it wants through more aggressive means such as what happened in Sri Lanka. And Bhutan is still very much in the pro India camp, the only country in South Asia that is not is Nepal. Even Rajapaksha has softened his position of India and has visited India several times. And like I said KP Oli is realizing that his election rhetoric does not match with reality. Like I said before, it is impossible to shape geography, and countries separated by plains will be closer than countries separated by mountains.

On a side note BD's elections are coming up, so we will have to see about that,

 

[Riz]

Good, they are ready to wait 25 years for teja 5th g modern plane... And this decision made Indians jubilant.. Oh boy Pakistan failed today .

 

[hussain0216]

Oh of course Chinas power is rising. But it's influence within most countries is falling no

Chinese power and influence has risen incredible over the decades and will continue to rise

Your fooling yourself if you think otherwise

The west may have found a indian stooge to try and contain india but it dosent really matter

 

[Imran Khan]

india is too much worry for smaller neighbors and they are juicing india too