"Made in China" vs "Make in India": a Glimpse from Their Auto Industries

[AndrewJin]

Baidu to see small-scale production of driverless vehicles
Xinhua, November 20, 2017

Baidu plans to launch "small-scale production" of fully autonomous mini-buses in July of next year, according to Robin Li, CEO of the Chinese tech giant.

Baidu also plans to launch self-driving car models in cooperation with manufacturers JAC Motors and Beijing Automotive Industry Corp, Li said during the company's annual technology conference.

By connecting with the "Internet of cars," the driverless vehicles will analyse information on signals and roads to improve traffic efficiency.

Artificial intelligence (AI) is expected to bring better road safety.

"The monitoring system developed by Baidu can monitor whether a driver is tired or not. If the driver is tired, the system will issue a warning and perk up the driver with a cheerful song," Li gave an example by demonstrating a feature during the conference.

Baidu's self-driving project was launched in 2013, featuring functions of precise mapping, positioning and intelligent decision.

http://china.org.cn/business/2017-11/20/content_41915409.htm

already achieved by SP2012 in 2012.

 

[Han Patriot]

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Indian PPP is shit. Just look at their car prices, even a little Maruti Suzuki with a 1.4L engine, barely considered as compact car cost 12,000+ USD with no ESP (and check my previous posts to see what kind of cars our car companies can provide to us with 12,000 USD). A country where their indigenous companies can not provide cost effective products such as cars, computers, cell phones, even shoes, etc..etc.. to their people has no right to talk about PPP. The nominal is 1/5 of China, the real PPP will be even less compared to China.. In addition, even their real estate price is also on par with the west, their PPP is the most overestimated, while China's ppp is definitely underestimated.

Does it come with an airbag?

 

[AndrewJin]

Does it come with an airbag?

airbag is non-vedic and non-PPP.
MAKE IN INDIA cars do not need airbags.

 

[TaiShang]

airbag is non-vedic and non-PPP.
MAKE IN INDIA cars do not need airbags.

Probably, their infrastructure is so bad, cannot drive fast, after all. So, airbags are not required.

Besides, they have free media, that's why you know their cars do not have airbags and other basic technologies.

You do not have free media, loser, so you do not know BYD cars, too, do not come with airbags.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Made in China now is superior Brand in world

 

[AndrewJin]

Made in China now is superior Brand in world

We are not fully there yet.
But in some sectors yes, like commercial drones，electric bus, port cranes, train chips, etc.
The number is increasing and will be significant in the coming decade!

Breakthrough in world skills competition 2017
Ranked number one for the first time

 

[cirr]

Your next cabbie could be a computer as company prepares fleet

2017-11-21 09:11 China Daily Editor: Gu Mengxi

The first fleet of 50 self-driving taxis developed by a Chinese startup company is expected to hit the road in East China's Anhui province by March, which may give the nation a head start over other countries in terms of commercial autonomous vehicles.

Customers will be able to order self-driving taxis in Anqing, Anhui province, through a ride-hailing app, said Wang Jing, founder of JingChi Corp.

During the test period, the cab will have a "safety officer" in the driver's seat, said Wang, a former senior vice-president at Baidu Inc who used to run Baidu's autonomous driving division.

"As the government gradually shapes policies and regulations of automated vehicles and more passengers get used to the service, we would consider removing the safety officer in the future," he said in an interview.

If that happens, China would be two years ahead of a global target of commercial usage of self-driving vehicles set by the auto and technology industry.

JingChi joins a growing number of Chinese companies developing autonomous driving technologies, including Baidu. The internet search engine said on Thursday that its self-driving mini buses will enter trial operation by the end of July in cooperation with Chinese commercial vehicle manufacturer Xiamen King Long United Automotive Industry Co.

But some analysts said there is still a long way to go before self-driving vehicles enter large-scale commercial operation due to safety concerns.

"Self-driving technology, in general, is getting mature, but there are still obstacles for commercial use," Zhao Xiang, a senior analyst at Beijing-based internet consultancy Analysys.

The obstacles include the complexity of managing such vehicles on roads and the lack of relevant regulations, including insurance policies, Zhao said.

Other technological hurdles may include the accuracy of digital maps and the high cost of laser-sensing "eyes" used in self-driving car systems, Zhao added.

But Luo Libo, an analyst at GF Securities, pointed out that it was possible to reduce the cost of producing light detection and ranging devices as the market matures.

Earlier this month, Waymo, a self-driving car company created by Google, ran its autonomous minivans around Phoenix, Arizona, with nobody inside to grab the wheel. The company said it would allow the public to start riding in the fully self-driving vehicles in the next few months.

JingChi completed autonomous driving tests in a closed venue in less than five weeks. It had obtained a license for testing autonomous vehicles on California's public roads in June.

Then in September, it raised $52 million in funding－prior to the A funding round－led by Qiming Venture Partners.

http://www.ecns.cn/business/2017/11-21/281665.shtml

India?

 

[TaiShang]

Spotlight: Chinese firm [Geely] helps Belarus realize "car dream"

Source: Xinhua | 2017-11-23

A man gets in a Geely Atlas automobile at the Belarusian-Chinese closed joint-stock company BelGee plant in Zhodino, Belarus November 18, 2017. (REUTERS PHOTO)

MINSK, Nov. 21 (Xinhua) -- "My dream to produce a car in Belarus has come true," a delighted Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko said as the first made-in-Belarus car rolled off the conveyor belt on Nov. 17.

The Geely Atlas NL3. manufactured by the Chinese-Belarusian joint venture BelGee, is meant for mass production.

"I used to dream, when will we be able to make cars in Belarus?" Lukashenko said at the launch of the new car at BelGee's factory in the Minsk region. "Our friends responded to my request and helped to set up this wonderful factory... With the help of Chinese friends, we have realized our dream of making a domestic car."

Though Belarus is known as a manufacturer of heavy machinery and has produced advanced large trucks, cranes and tractors, it lagged behind when it came to making cars. In the past, it sought to partner with big foreign automakers such as Volkswagen but the plans came to naught.

The breakthrough came in December 2011 when China's Zhejiang Geely Holding Group and Belarus' dump-truck manufacturer BelAZ floated BelGee as a joint venture. With this Geely became the only Chinese company assembling cars in Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) countries.

In March 2015, BelGee started to build a 118-hectare factory between Borisov and the industrial city of Zhodino to assemble cars from completely knocked-down kits. The factory is designed to make 60,000 cars a year when fully operational.

Lukashenko said the launch of the Belarus car is just the beginning.

"You understand that it is not enough to make, it is more important to sell," he said.

The president said he sees great prospects for the new car. A draft decree to stimulate the purchase of BelGee cars at home is in the pipeline.

In the future, BelGee hopes to double its production capacity and sell the China-Belarus cars not just at home but throughout EEU countries.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-11/23/c_136772667.htm

 

[rott]

1 ppp= 10 vedic dollars.
You r fake news

 

[AndrewJin]

Spotlight: Chinese firm [Geely] helps Belarus realize "car dream"

Source: Xinhua | 2017-11-23

A man gets in a Geely Atlas automobile at the Belarusian-Chinese closed joint-stock company BelGee plant in Zhodino, Belarus November 18, 2017. (REUTERS PHOTO)

MINSK, Nov. 21 (Xinhua) -- "My dream to produce a car in Belarus has come true," a delighted Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko said as the first made-in-Belarus car rolled off the conveyor belt on Nov. 17.

The Geely Atlas NL3. manufactured by the Chinese-Belarusian joint venture BelGee, is meant for mass production.

"I used to dream, when will we be able to make cars in Belarus?" Lukashenko said at the launch of the new car at BelGee's factory in the Minsk region. "Our friends responded to my request and helped to set up this wonderful factory... With the help of Chinese friends, we have realized our dream of making a domestic car."

Though Belarus is known as a manufacturer of heavy machinery and has produced advanced large trucks, cranes and tractors, it lagged behind when it came to making cars. In the past, it sought to partner with big foreign automakers such as Volkswagen but the plans came to naught.

The breakthrough came in December 2011 when China's Zhejiang Geely Holding Group and Belarus' dump-truck manufacturer BelAZ floated BelGee as a joint venture. With this Geely became the only Chinese company assembling cars in Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) countries.

In March 2015, BelGee started to build a 118-hectare factory between Borisov and the industrial city of Zhodino to assemble cars from completely knocked-down kits. The factory is designed to make 60,000 cars a year when fully operational.

Lukashenko said the launch of the Belarus car is just the beginning.

"You understand that it is not enough to make, it is more important to sell," he said.

The president said he sees great prospects for the new car. A draft decree to stimulate the purchase of BelGee cars at home is in the pipeline.

In the future, BelGee hopes to double its production capacity and sell the China-Belarus cars not just at home but throughout EEU countries.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-11/23/c_136772667.htm

I used to be quite suspicious about these indigenous brands like Geely, BYD, Chang'an.
How time changes!
Efforts in R&D are being paid back.

Chinese in 1990s-2000s bought home appliances from foreign brands.
Now, all our own indigenous brands

I am saying the truth held by RSSers.
They genuinely believe in the power of PPP.

 

[GS Zhou]

The Geely Atlas NL3. manufactured by the Chinese-Belarusian joint venture BelGee, is meant for mass production.

Geely Atlas NL3, the model called as Boyue (吉利博越) in China, a top selling SUV model in China.

If I'm asked to choose, I'll choose the variant: 1.8T/6AT/Zhizun (智尊). 135kw/285Nm engine, 6-speed AT, with almost all the safety/comfort/entertainment/connectivity features that you could expect. Also with some active safety features, e.g. pre-collision warning, lane departure warning, active cruise control. The price is also nice, about RMB 145k, or $22k.

link to its spec list:
https://suv.geely.com/uploads/boyue/files/cxpz-boyue-822201701051124584.pdf

 

[TaiShang]

I used to be quite suspicious about these indigenous brands like Geely, BYD, Chang'an.
How time changes!
Efforts in R&D are being paid back.

Chinese in 1990s-2000s bought home appliances from foreign brands.
Now, all our own indigenous brands

Indeed and it is not an easy feat.

One needs money to spend on R&D and needs R&D to earn money. It takes smart management to generate money for R&D spending and start a momentum of innovation.

Developing countries are less blessed, in this respect, than developed countries because, in their development stage, developed countries did have no competition, hence, they dumped the world with sup-par products to spend heavily on R&D.

Once they became powerful and innovative, then, it got almost impossible for newly developing countries to compete with them.

China will likely be the only country to break this vicious cycle in the entire line of industries, from home appliance and cars to supercomputers, semiconductors and advanced materials.

 

[AndrewJin]

Indeed and it is not an easy feat.

One needs money to spend on R&D and needs R&D to earn money. It takes smart management to generate money for R&D spending and start a momentum of innovation.

Developing countries are less blessed, in this respect, than developed countries because, in their development stage, developed countries did have no competition, hence, they dumped the world with sup-par products to spend heavily on R&D.

Once they became powerful and innovative, then, it got almost impossible for newly developing countries to compete with them.

China will likely be the only country to break this vicious cycle in the entire line of industries, from home appliance and cars to supercomputers, semiconductors and advanced materials.

agree

 

[HariPrasad]

Ohhhh we practice protectionism ? Very funny that Chinese say that. That country which restrict everything from other countries says this. If we protect , we can curtail import but how can we boost exports. Our cars are exported 40 to 50 more than China and it will grow rapidly because now export to UK, Europe , Japan and US has started. Cry babies will cry further.

 

[AndrewJin]

Geely Atlas NL3, the model called as Boyue (吉利博越) in China, a top selling SUV model in China.

If I'm asked to choose, I'll choose the variant: 1.8T/6AT/Zhizun (智尊). 135kw/285Nm engine, 6-speed AT, with almost all the safety/comfort/entertainment/connectivity features that you could expect. Also with some active safety features, e.g. pre-collision warning, lane departure warning, active cruise control. The price is also nice, about RMB 145k, or $22k.

link to its spec list:
https://suv.geely.com/uploads/boyue/files/cxpz-boyue-822201701051124584.pdf

I guess cars to middle class indian (who are not hungry) are dirt cheap because they use PPP money