LY-80 deliveries to Pakistan complete

[BHarwana]

So 9 systems in total that means 720 km of area denial good.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

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LY-80 firing vehicle and IBIS-150 search radar vehicle belonging to 1 LOMAD Regiment, subordinate HQ 4 Air Defence Division.


Recently, China completed delivery of LY-80 LOMADS to Pakistan, with the last batteries received by Army Air Defence. A total of nine batteries were ordered with an option of another three.

The first battery was received in Jan 2017 and simultaneously inducted into 1 LOMAD Regiment. 3 LOMAD Regiment was raised earlier this year, with another regiment expected to be equipped soon.


Pakistan Army (battery) configuration:

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1 x search radar vehicle (SV)
1 x command vehicle (CV)
1 x guidance radar vehicle (GV)
3 x missile firing vehicle (FV)
1 x power supply vehicle
1 x missile transloading vehicle
1 x electronic & support vehicle


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We need system like S 400

 

[Gryphon]

Their preference is to protect their armoured divs and moving formations but, apparently, not the cities.

LY-80 batteries are providing AD to cantonments, most of which are located within cities or their outskirts.

So what's next after ly 80

FD-2000, when the budget allows.

Why purchase the old version? Can't you purchase the LY-80B with 70 km range or going to upgrade it later.

The contracts were signed in 2013/2014 when the new version was not available.
HQ-16B was cleared for export early 2017.

System upgrade is possible, but the missiles need to be replaced.

 

[ali_raza]

Won't happen. Pakistani military leadership has some allergy to LR-SAM

ha9

 

[war&peace]

LY-80 batteries are providing AD to cantonments, most of which are located within cities or their outskirts.

Army's job is to protect the whole country ...not the bloody cantonments only.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Hq-9 should be next in the list .

 

[Gryphon]

Army's job is to protect the whole country ...not the bloody cantonments only.

Cantonments are strategic areas, need AD deployment on priority.

LY-80 is Army Air Defence asset & is accordingly utilized, airspace is responsibility of PAF - let them fund FD-2000 purchase.

 

[proud.pakistani]

We need full AD coverage of our main cities like Karachi, Lahore, Sialkot etc. These are our main trade hubs and are densely populated. Our country economy will cripple quickly in unrecoverable state if anything happens to them.

 

[Type59]

I have doubts about the upgradation as the missiles are different, (may) need different canister ? I dont know... if thats not an issue i guess then its all about softwares and system upgrades.

Missiles come in canisters. Hence take old/used ones off and replace with a loaded canister. Thus put improved missile on TEL is not an issue. Only a software needs changing. Radar seems capable to launch longer range missile.

 

[war&peace]

Excellent mobile cover for Pakistan's armoured units.



Long time needed, but let's wait.

Have been waiting for years... decades..

Cantonments are strategic areas, need AD deployment on priority.

LY-80 is Army Air Defence asset & is accordingly utilized, airspace is responsibility of PAF - let them fund FD-2000 purchase.

That shows the mentality... offload the responsibility on the other..It is the job of the airforce...so India is purchasing S400 will it be under its army or air force.
In todays warfare... cities are lot more important than the bloody tiny cantonment. Now it is time to think about protecting the nation..and not just the cantonment... since how many years we have been listening about HQ-9? And it there is not ban on its exports.

 

[Humble Analyst]

Won't happen. Pakistani military leadership has some allergy to LR-SAM

Need long range SAMs to counter planes delivering stand off weapons.

 

[randomradio]

Excellent mobile cover for Pakistan's armoured units.

It can't protect armoured units. It's not highly mobile, easily given away by the design of the TEL.

 

[RealNapster]

Missiles come in canisters. Hence take old/used ones off and replace with a loaded canister. Thus put improved missile on TEL is not an issue. Only a software needs changing. Radar seems capable to launch longer range missile.

Radar is capable of 110+ km range. Soin that case we are good.

 

[ziaulislam]

Why purchase the old version? Can't you purchase the LY-80B with 70 km range or going to upgrade it later.

its same system and same canister size.
Just the missles are different
Dont know whether PA ordered some B missles or not

 

[Army research]

Have been waiting for years... decades..


That shows the mentality... offload the responsibility on the other..It is the job of the airforce...so India is purchasing S400 will it be under its army or air force.
In todays warfare... cities are lot more important than the bloody tiny cantonment. Now it is time to think about protecting the nation..and not just the cantonment... since how many years we have been listening about HQ-9? And it there is not ban on its exports.

Not really cities are strategic targets for the wars of the past like Vietnam Korea were the last ones, modern wars are fast paced wars where only millitary and admin structure are taken out by airstrike ( iraq) where as if someone bombs or nukes a city nowadays , they know that they themselves will get nuked or bombed so rational military minds don't do it, as for Pakistan's scenario, our main enemy doesn't even have any strategic bombing fleet so it would be utterly pointless for them to bomb cities and waste aircraft doing so ( or missiles )
However when viewing from a civilian lens you only view cantonment as pasban shopping centre or fortress road , however cantonemnt have the main rail connect army supply depots to other areas, ammunition reserves , reservist centre , brigade and div headquarters, corp hq, all the admin staff, l mention logistics again because very important , and in case war breaks out randomly out of nowhere , the armour regiments sitting in gujranwala would be easy pickings when parked neatly compressed in the battlion sheds ,

That is why these batteries are for cantt defence , as for long range AD like FD2000, even that is not effective in city defence, you need THAAD equiv for that which I'm afraid a country like ours with 1.8 percent tax rate would not be able to afford for the next 30 years