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US War in Afghanistan entered its tenth year this week, making it the longest war in US history.

What began as a US-Saudi-Pakistani sponsored anti-Soviet jihad in Afghanistan in the 1980s, and led to the terrorist attacks on Sept 11, 2001, is now threatening to engulf Africa, Central Asia, Middle East and South Asia in its growing flames. And its effects are continuing to be strongly felt in America and Europe.

The victorious veterans of the 1980s Afghan resistance have successfully indoctrinated and trained several generations of battle-hardened global jihadis to take on the United States and various pro-Western governments in Islamic nations in all parts of the world. This trend is accelerating as the US steps up its attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan, according a recent report in Newsweek magazine. Here is an excerpt from its report:

"The Central Asians retreated to Afghanistan and Pakistan in the late 1990s after failing to topple their home governments. Now they seem ready to try again, using guerrilla tactics and know-how they’ve picked up from the Taliban about improvised explosive devices. Small groups of Tajik and Uzbek militants began moving into Tajikistan in late winter 2009, says a Taliban subcommander in the northern Afghan province of Kunduz. In Kunduz they joined up with fighters from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), a Qaeda-linked group active there and in Tajikistan. “Once these first groups made it back safely [to Tajikistan], they signaled to militants here in Kunduz and even in Pakistan’s tribal areas that the journey was possible,” the subcommander, who didn’t want to be named for security reasons, tells Newsweek."

As the war expands, it is now worth pondering over the current and future costs of what appears to be an interminable war on terror, and consider alternative approaches, including greater use of soft power.

Even if most Americans choose to assign no value to the lives of many poor Afghan and Pakistani civilians killed as "collateral", here is an analysis by a blogger at kabulpress.org of the exorbitant financial cost of the US war in Afghanistan to the American taxpayers:

The estimated cost to kill each Taliban is as high as $100 million, with a conservative estimate being $50 million.

1. Taliban Field Strength: 35,000 troops

2. Taliban Killed Per Year by Coalition forces: 2,000 (best available information)

3. Pentagon Direct Costs for Afghan War for 2010: $100 billion

4. Pentagon Indirect Costs for Afghan War for 2010: $100 billion

Using the fact that 2,000 Taliban are being killed each year and that the Pentagon spends $200 billion per year on the war in Afghanistan, one simply has to divide one number into the other. That calculation reveals that $100 million is being spent to kill each Taliban soldier. In order to be conservative, the author decided to double the number of Taliban being killed each year by U.S. and NATO forces (although the likelihood of such being true is unlikely). This reduces the cost to kill each Taliban to $50 million, which is the title of this article. The final number is outrageously high regardless of how one calculates it.

To put this information another way, using the conservative estimate of $50 million to kill each Taliban:

It costs the American taxpayers $1 billion to kill 20 Taliban

As the U.S. military estimates there to be 35,000 hard-core Taliban and assuming that no reinforcements and replacements will arrive from Pakistan and Iran:

Just killing the existing Taliban would cost $1.75 Trillion, not including the growing numbers of new Taliban recruits joining every day.

The reason for these exorbitant costs is that United States has the world’s most mechanized, computerized, weaponized and synchronized military, not to mention the most pampered (at least at Forward Operating Bases). An estimated 150,000 civilian contractors support, protect, feed and cater to the American personnel in Afghanistan, which is an astonishing number. The Americans enjoy such perks and distinctions in part because no other country is willing to pay (waste) so much money on their military.

The ponderous American war machine is a logistics nightmare and a maintenance train wreck. It is also part-myth. This author served at a senior level within the U.S. Air Force. Air Force “smart” bombs are no way near as consistently accurate as the Pentagon boasts; Army mortars remain inaccurate; even standard American field rifles are frequently outmatched by Taliban weapons, which have a longer range. The American public would pale if it actually learned the full story about the poor quality of the weapons and equipment that are being purchased with its tax dollars. The Taliban’s best ally within the United States may be the Pentagon, whose contempt for fiscal responsibility and accountability may force a premature U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan as the Americans cannot continue to fund these Pentagon excesses.

The blogger argues that "if President Obama refuses to drastically reform the Pentagon’s inefficient way of making war, he may conclude that the Taliban is simply too expensive an enemy to fight. He would then have little choice but to abandon the Afghan people to the Taliban’s “Super-Soldiers.” That would be an intolerable disgrace".

Regardless of the killing efficiency of Pentagon's war machine, I do not think that the United States can win this war by military means alone. It's time for the American leadership to go beyond rhetoric and seriously implement its 80/20 strategy. The 80/ 20 rule, as outlined by General Petraeus, calls for 80% emphasis on the political/economic effort backed by 20% military component to fight the Taliban insurgency in both Pakistan and Afghanistan. This rule has led many to speculate about a US-backed "Marshall Plan" style effort to help Afghanistan and Pakistan expand the economic opportunity for their young and growing population, vulner able to exploitation by extremists.

Haq's Musings: Afghan War Costs US Taxpayers $50 Million Per Dead Taliban
 
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The estimated cost to kill each Taliban is as high as $100 million, with a conservative estimate being $50 million.

1. Taliban Field Strength: 35,000 troops

2. Taliban Killed Per Year by Coalition forces: 2,000 (best available information)

3. Pentagon Direct Costs for Afghan War for 2010: $100 billion

4. Pentagon Indirect Costs for Afghan War for 2010: $100 billion

That is some bad math right there. You are assuming the total budget spent is aimed at is killing some random Taliban in Afghanistan.
 
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That is some bad math right there. You are assuming all that the total budget spent is aimed at is killing some random Taliban in Afghanistan.

What is the purpose of this war, or any war for that matter? To defeat the enemy? And what do you do with an enemy that won't surrender? You have to kill them? Right?

The bottom line is that, in order to defeat the Taliban on the battlefield, the US has to kill them, and all of the spending in Afghanistan is for that objective....be it supplies, fuel, hardware, ammo, etc. etc.

A couple of hundred billion dollars on a Marshall Plan for Afghanistan and Pakistan is pretty cheap compared with the alternative of killing just the existing Taliban at a cost $1.75 Trillion, not including the growing numbers of new Taliban recruits joining every day.

Haq's Musings: Missiles versus Schools for Pakistan's Tribal Areas
 
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What is the purpose of this war, or any war for that matter? To defeat the enemy? And what do you do with an enemy that won't surrender? You have to kill them? Right?

The bottom line is that, in order to defeat the Taliban on the battlefield, the US has to kill them, and all of the spending in Afghanistan is for that objective....be it supplies, fuel, hardware, ammo, etc. etc.

A couple of hundred billion dollars on a Marshall Plan for Afghanistan and Pakistan is pretty cheap compared with the alternative of killing just the existing Taliban at a cost $1.75 Trillion, not including the growing numbers of new Taliban recruits joining every day.

Haq's Musings: Missiles versus Schools for Pakistan's Tribal Areas

No no no sir. If winning was a simple a matter as killing a field army of 35,000 as you contend, the war was fought and won in 2001 by small number of CIA agents and special ops soldiers.

This is not how counter-insurgency works. Before you can spend money on a Marshall type plan like you say, there needs to be security and a stable framework by which this can be carried out. It is not a choice either killing the Taliban or spending the money spent on security on reconstruction. It's more like there can't one without the other.

No security no anything.
 
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What is the purpose of this war, or any war for that matter? To defeat the enemy? And what do you do with an enemy that won't surrender? You have to kill them? Right?

The bottom line is that, in order to defeat the Taliban on the battlefield, the US has to kill them, and all of the spending in Afghanistan is for that objective....be it supplies, fuel, hardware, ammo, etc. etc.

A couple of hundred billion dollars on a Marshall Plan for Afghanistan and Pakistan is pretty cheap compared with the alternative of killing just the existing Taliban at a cost $1.75 Trillion, not including the growing numbers of new Taliban recruits joining every day.

Haq's Musings: Missiles versus Schools for Pakistan's Tribal Areas

You are a really bad analyst, or maybe you just twist figures to suit your prejudices.

The war in ****** isn't about killing talibans, its for preventing them from commiting terror attacks here or anywhere in the world. The taliban don't have anything left to surrender. Before US came to afghanistan they had a country, government, laws, now they are hiding away taking potshots whenever they can and dying at dozen a day.

A couple of hundred billion dollars on a Marshall Plan for Afghanistan and Pakistan is pretty cheap compared with the alternative of killing just the existing Taliban at a cost $1.75 Trillion

Get some perspective, the losses for the stock market alone were 1.72 trillion dollars on the week of 9/11, thats not counting the infrastructure losses and wasted man-hours due to the attack.
 
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No no no sir. If winning was a simple a matter as killing a field army of 35,000 as you contend, the war was fought and won in 2001 by small number of CIA agents and special ops soldiers.

This is not how counter-insurgency works. Before you can spend money on a Marshall type plan like you say, there needs to be security and a stable framework by which this can be carried out. It is not a choice either killing the Taliban or spending the money spent on security on reconstruction. It's more like there can't one without the other.

No security no anything.

I don't think you understand war as fought by military. The military's job is to kill or capture as many of the enemy soldiers as they can and force a surrender by the rest.

That's what the American soldiers are trying to do in Afghanistan without success.

Counter-insurgency is a different ball game...it does not apply to foreign troops trying to overcome resistance by a local force defending its turf.

What Pakistanis are doing in FATA is counter-insurgency.

What Indians are doing against Maoists is counter-insurgency.

What Americans are doing in Afghanistan is not counter-insurgency, but war to defeat the Taliban on their home turf. And, given how how tenacious the Taliban are, the only way to really defeat them is to kill them.

The alternative is to try and reach a compromise through negotiations...and part of that could be a Marshall plan style effort to buy them off at a cost far less than the cost of killing them.

Haq's Musings: 80/20 Strategy and Marshall Plan for Pakistan
 
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You are a really bad analyst, or maybe you just twist figures to suit your prejudices.

The war in ****** isn't about killing talibans, its for preventing them from commiting terror attacks here or anywhere in the world. The taliban don't have anything left to surrender. Before US came to afghanistan they had a country, government, laws, now they are hiding away taking potshots whenever they can and dying at dozen a day.



Get some perspective, the losses for the stock market alone were 1.72 trillion dollars on the week of 9/11, thats not counting the infrastructure losses and wasted man-hours due to the attack.

Taliban did not attack on 911. Al Qaeda did. The two are not the same. The Americans have now learned that distinction the hard way.

It is ridiculous to compare stock market movement in a certain week with the cost of war in Afghanistan.

What the US is spending in Afghanistan is the real taxpayer money or borrowed money...not ephemeral paper profits on Wall Street.
 
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I don't think you understand war as fought by military. The military's job is to kill or capture as many of the enemy soldiers as they can and force a surrender by the rest.

That's what the American soldiers are trying to do in Afghanistan without success.

Counter-insurgency is a different ball game...it does not apply to foreign troops trying to overcome resistance by a local force defending its turf.

What Pakistanis are doing in FATA is counter-insurgency.

What Indians are doing against Maoists is counter-insurgency.

What Americans are doing in Afghanistan is not counter-insurgency, but war to defeat the Taliban on their home turf. And, given how how tenacious the Taliban are, the only way to really defeat them is to kill them.

The alternative is to try and reach a compromise through negotiations...and part of that could be a Marshall plan style effort to buy them off at a cost far less than the cost of killing them.

Haq's Musings: 80/20 Strategy and Marshall Plan for Pakistan

You've completely lost me to your point of view now.
 
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You are a really bad analyst, or maybe you just twist figures to suit your prejudices.

The war in ****** isn't about killing talibans, its for preventing them from commiting terror attacks here or anywhere in the world. The taliban don't have anything left to surrender. Before US came to afghanistan they had a country, government, laws, now they are hiding away taking potshots whenever they can and dying at dozen a day.

And how they do that?????? Obviously by killing their enemy! And after recent deadlist month of September for Nato, you still think that Talibans are sitting like ducks?
 
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Even if it is costly and lengthy -I have problems with Mr. Haq's Analysis- the war was worth.
 
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there is one stat missing . the money will be taken in the end from the pocket of muslim world ......

and more over this war is so very important to keep peace in the world.
 
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Even if it is costly and lengthy -I have problems with Mr. Haq's Analysis- the war was worth.

The war was worth what? And for whom?

For Americans? For India? For Afghans? For Pakistan?

And who is paying the price?

Do you think the interests of all four coincide in Afghanistan?

You have to be more specific!
 
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And how they do that?????? Obviously by killing their enemy! And after recent deadlist month of September for Nato, you still think that Talibans are sitting like ducks?

They are not a conventional enemy, they are terrorists. They hide and strike when they can. Making them unable to strike is as much of a victory, if you fail to notice they are holed up in their ***-holes in the mountains and still getting killed.

If you believe by hiding away and their ***** being kicked in their sanctuaries they are not sitting ducks yeah you are right- they are pissing cowards.
 
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What americans report as Taliban kills is not always taliban but a great majority are civilans.
Taliban were a government. They did not attack America.After so many years they have mangaed to push US government into dialogue. The war is becoming a blunder for the US by every passing day.
 
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