Lone Indian IDF soldier sees his family after 3 years

[19887]

Aren't Arabs (those descended from Ishmael as) descended from Abraham (as) anyway? Arabs have as much claim to the land of Israel as their Semetic cousins, surely?

The fact that the Arabs are descended from Ishmael is a Jewish myth long before Islam and long before the Arabs heard about it.
The myth compares Ishmael's barbarism to the Arabs and then to the Muslims, and Esau to the Christians.
According to the Bible, they are descendants of Shem, but not through Abraham, but through Kedar, Dedan, Ma'ayan, HaCharmut, Shaba.
Ishmael was the son of the Egyptian slave of Abraham, he was not the legal son, and Abraham expelled him to the desert, hence the myth that the Arabs are Ishmaelites

 

[Saif al-Arab]

The fact that the Arabs are descended from Ishmael is a Jewish myth long before Islam and long before the Arabs heard about it.
The myth compares Ishmael's barbarism to the Arabs and then to the Muslims, and Esau to the Christians.
According to the Bible, they are descendants of Shem, but not through Abraham, but through Kedar, Dedan, Ma'ayan, HaCharmut, Shaba.
Ishmael was the son of the Egyptian slave of Abraham, he was not the legal son, and Abraham expelled him to the desert, hence the myth that the Arabs are Ishmaelites

The myth is that Prophet Ibrahim (AS) is a Jew when he was a Semite (real one unlike you) from Southern Iraq. Similarly the actual Hebrews are from Hijaz/Arabia/Southern Levant as all other Semites are originally.

In fact you adopted the religion, culture and language of the Canaanites who were originally from neighboring Hijaz as well as were the Nabateans. Basically you are copying ancient Semitic culture from modern-day Arabia and Iraq.

Anyway the only genuine Jews are the Samaritans (sadly a dying minority) and the Arab Jews and Middle Eastern Jews. Rest are imposters as confirmed by DNA.



Even one of your most famous Kings (King Herod the Great) was a half Arab (Nabatean). And his father was not even a Hebrew/Israelite either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod_the_Great

In fact the situation was such pathetic that you needed Arab Jews to revive actual Hebrew language as no other Jews were able to speak Hebrew on a daily basis. Hence Jiddish etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revival_of_the_Hebrew_language

Ashkenazis to this day speak with a slightly non-Semitic accent when speaking Hebrew compared to so-called Mizrahi Jews.

We Arabs don't claim any ancestry from Jews but from our own ancient Semitic ancestors who were not even from modern-day Israel.

Aren't Arabs (those descended from Ishmael as) descended from Abraham (as) anyway? Arabs have as much claim to the land of Israel as their Semetic cousins, surely?

Ashkenazi Jews are not actual Jews/Hebrews/Israelites or Semites. Arabs Jews and Middle Eastern Jews are indeed our brethren.

Prophet Ibrahim (as) was not a Jew but a Semite from modern-day Southern Iraq (close to the borders of modern-day KSA and Iraq). He migrated to Southern Levant and afterwards to neighboring Hijaz. His prodigy later spread to much of the Arab world and Middle East and later to Europe as per Arab, Jewish and other sources. For instance when Prophet Muhammad (saws) was described by non-Arabs and non-Muslims (for instance by Jews or Christians) he is called or referred to as the Son of Prophet Ibrahim (as).

This is why the paternal lineage of Sadah families and Cohen is the same.

Jews have a tendency to claim everything. Holocaust, as horrible as that was (nothing to do with Arabs), is used as a excuse for them to exploit others and to get their will. Blackmailing in other words.

This is why they have been demonizing Arabs, not only Palestinians but obviously mostly them for obvious reasons, since they were created.

This guy is a good example of this. He claimed to not have a problem with Arabs but when the heat was turned up he revealed his truth face.

 

[Ilay]

So Israel has become so desperate that they are welcoming foreigners to serve in their army? A mercenary army in other words.

Pathetic. So brave Palestinian patriots might be standing across some Indian import violating and occupying their ancient lands. What a sight to behold!

The Indians here must be really proud of their docile and servant poodle.

You know, when Hamas is taking pictures and videos of them selves declaring stuff like "We will destroy the Zionists" or when lunching missiles from schools while calling them selves freedom fighters they could seem like they are some tough warriors.
But when actually when coming to face to face combat with the IDF in 2014, the results speak for themselves:

The funniest part in those photos is that the IDF has yet to enter combat when they surrendered so its not like they lost in combat.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

You know, when Hamas is taking pictures and videos of them selves declaring stuff like "We will destroy the Zionists" or when lunching missiles from schools while calling them selves freedom fighters they could seem like they are some tough warriors.
But when actually when coming to face to face combat with the IDF in 2014, the results speak for themselves:

The funniest part in those photos is that the IDF has yet to enter combat when they surrendered so its not like they lost in combat.

Propaganda and some civilians armed with stones that you have rounded up. Pathetic attempt nor has it anything to do with the topic.

The topic of this thread illustrates fully what the Palestinians are up against. A horde of settlers from across the world trying to steal their ancestral lands and to hurt them. This won't be tolerated forever. Your illegal state is actually a major reason for the problems in our region.

 

[Falcon29]

You know, when Hamas is taking pictures and videos of them selves declaring stuff like "We will destroy the Zionists" or when lunching missiles from schools while calling them selves freedom fighters they could seem like they are some tough warriors.
But when actually when coming to face to face combat with the IDF in 2014, the results speak for themselves:

The funniest part in those photos is that the IDF has yet to enter combat when they surrendered so its not like they lost in combat.

Why are you changing the topic troll, no one brought up Hamas here nor does Hamas espouse a will to 'destroy Israel' whatever that means. And those were random male civilians from age 15 and up detained that had nothing to do with Hamas troll.

The patriots he is referencing are those ordinary people who deal with the occupation on a daily basis. And even the militants, there is nothing horrific about armed resistance like you try to make it appear. You're just a racist Jewish who doesn't believe in Arabs right to self determination.

 

[Turingsage]

Peoples army

So now some Dravidian Indian is going to claim that he has ancestral and historical ties to a region 5000 km from his ancestral land? Is he now going to claim Semitic ancestry, is that it? And you fools are going to believe it? After all you are living a lie.

Anyway I forgot who I am talking about. After all 1/3 of all Israeli Jews are Eastern European migrants that claim that Palestinian Arabs and other natives of the region are recent imports.

DNA has already confirmed what I wrote and I understood from a previous debate that you don't recognize DNA. Not my problem.

Anyway this thread was created in order for a few Indian users to thank this thread as there is not much to thank realities in Israel for.

Anyway at least 21% of your Israeli population is made up by Palestinians Arabs while 2/3's of your Israeli Jews are Arab Jews from Arab nations that are genetically identical to their Muslim, Christian and Atheist brethren.

 

[Ilay]

Why are you changing the topic troll, no one brought up Hamas here nor does Hamas espouse a will to 'destroy Israel' whatever that means. And those were random male civilians from age 15 and up detained that had nothing to do with Hamas troll.

I absolutely did not change the topic he said "brave Palestinian patriots" so I countered his opinion with facts.
BTW I was also a soldier fighting Hamas on the streets of Beit Hanoun in 2014 and those "random civilians" were all armed to the teeth until the IDF got there.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Not sure what this video is going to proof? Is India located in the neighborhood, in particular the crossroads of Southern Levant, Egypt (Sinai) and Northern Arabia or is it located several 1000 km away? Even the closest region of India (Gujarat if I am not wrong) is located several 1000 km away from the area that we are discussing. Let's assume that he is originally from Eastern India. Make that a few extra 1000 km across mighty mountain ranges, jungles, seas, deserts you name it.

Anyway you don't get it. Some Indian national has enlisted in a foreign army as a mercenary and somehow the world is looking silently at this while if a Arab or Muslim or even a non-Arab and non-Muslim person who supports the rights of Palestinians to have their own country and not live under occupation, if he or she joined an official army of Palestine (even such a simple thing you have taken away from the Palestinians officially) he/she would be demonized using all tricks in the book and this would be spoken about for weeks. This is the hypocrisy that I am countering. And the fact that an Israel Jew feels the need to get the approval of Indians 1000's of km away that have nothing to do with the conflict. Funnily enough India used to be one of the most pro-Arab nations and always had cordial/close ties to many Arab nations which is why so many Arabs to this very day (excluding ancient trade ties) don't have a problem with Indians.

I absolutely did not change the topic he said "brave Palestinian patriots" so I countered his opinion with facts.
BTW I was also a soldier fighting Hamas on the streets of Beit Hanoun in 2014 and those "random civilians" were all armed to the teeth until the IDF got there.

Yes, because Hamas is the only definition of Palestinian patriots. In case you don't know it then every single normal, healthy and sane Palestinian is a patriot who loves his land and people like most other peoples. You are even this insane that your likes claim that there is no such thing as a Palestinian while that people makes 100 more sense and have much more legitimacy than Jews which is a mixture of 100's of different peoples ranging from Black Africans, Dravidians from South Asia, Semitic Arabs from the Middle East and Eastern European Slavic Jews. All suddenly (within mostly the past 100 years) suddenly migrating from all corners of the world to a land that their supposed ancestors inhabited several millennia ago. So should Hijazis and Saudi Arabians who show the closest genetic ties to Natufian skeletons as proven by a recent DNA test, who have the most genetic kinship to the Natufians (14.500 - 9.500BC ) claim all of Levant?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natufian_culture

 

[19887]

I don't care about your absurd fairytale stories. I stick to history and actual evidence (DNA).

What I see is some Indian who claims to be a Jew. Maybe his grandmother 3000 years ago migrated to India from Southern Levant for some unknown and highly inexplicable reason. That's probably his invented story.

No, so-called Mizrahi Jews (another recent invention used for mostly Arab Jews) number 2/3's of the Israeli Jewish population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizrahi_Jews

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Jews

Another lie:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

Your own government data is the source:

http://www.cbs.gov.il/publications/isr_in_n10e.pdf

Sure. DNA has proven that Arab Jews are not different genetically from their Muslim, Christian and Atheist brethren. Whether they are Yemeni Jews or Moroccan Jews. We are not going to allow you to claim them as your own when you have created a 70 year old version of the United States of America in the middle of the Arab world. You can scream all you want to. Just like we won't be silent when you claim Arab cuisine, music, art etc. to be Israeli or Jewish.

Unless KSA has changed flags in that period, you must be confusing me with another user. I am not aware of any flag changes and that would also be a huge crime as KSA's flag is one of the most unique and beautiful in my world.

"your absurd fairytale stories. I stick to history and actual evidence (DNA)." - I'm not telling stories I report the truth, In the meantime, you deny history and science

"migrated to India from Southern Levant for some unknown and highly inexplicable reason" - If his ancestors migrated thousands of years ago the reason is Assyria/Babylon/Rome

"That's probably his invented story." - His last name is talker, meaning that he is one of the Jews of the Babylonian exile,That some merchants from this community had emigrated to India
+Even if he was just an Indian who converted, he is still a Jew and does not need any stories


"No, so-called Mizrahi Jews (another recent invention used for mostly Arab Jews)" - Again, you brought the term of one woman who suggested it, which you think is why these Jews are Arabs, they are not Arabs like I am not Caucasian or Turk.
An Arab is one ethnicity, a Jew is another

"number 2/3's of the Israeli Jewish population." - No dude, they're not, it's around 40%
There are 6.4 million Jews in Israel (according to Jewish law), which means that 2/3 of them are just over 4 million.
Of all the this Jews, only a million immigrated to Israel over the years.

"
Another lie:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

Your own government data is the source:

http://www.cbs.gov.il/publications/isr_in_n10e.pdf " - 20% Arabs, But 14% identify as Palestinians

"Sure. DNA has proven that Arab Jews are not different genetically from their Muslim, Christian and Atheist brethren. Whether they are Yemeni Jews or Moroccan Jews. We are not going to allow you to claim them as your own when you have created a 70 year old version of the United States of America in the middle of the Arab world. You can scream all you want to. "
^
Once again, the DNA has proved that all Jews have a connection to each other. You try to take control of the Jews and to arabize them (of course you can't and you will not succeed) because you are an Arab imperialist.
But I'm fucking Jew, I know my people, go tell this stories to your fellow arabs.
We didn't invent a nation 70 years ago, we have been a nation for more than 3000 years.
You can deny, you can ignore, but it will not change reality.

"Just like we won't be silent when you claim Arab cuisine, music, art etc. to be Israeli or Jewish."
You just said that most Israelis are Arabs, but they must not claim that the Arab cuisine belongs to them
There is no original Israeli cuisine, 70 years is not enough time to develop a local cuisine
Therefore, the cuisine in Israel is a universal cuisine.
It's true that some say that falafel, for example, is Israeli, I don't like and agree with it.

Unless KSA has changed flags in that period, you must be confusing me with another user. I am not aware of any flag changes and that would also be a huge crime as KSA's flag is one of the most unique and beautiful in my world.

Okay al-Andalus

 

[Falcon29]

I absolutely did not change the topic he said "brave Palestinian patriots" so I countered his opinion with facts.
BTW I was also a soldier fighting Hamas on the streets of Beit Hanoun in 2014 and those "random civilians" were all armed to the teeth until the IDF got there.

Go lie to gullible fanboys, retard. As soon as you approached the fence you faced combat and casualties:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...er-killed-as-Gaza-ground-invasion-begins.html

The last your army looks for is close quarters combat, your whole war philosophy is based on 'mowing the grass', not advancing on ground until neighborhood is razed down and no combatants are present.

Btw, can you give us a source? It seems like the reports have been deleted long ago after human rights groups exposed the farce.

And that was not his point at all, you just try diverting attention from the common Palestinian affected.

 

[Turingsage]

Not sure what this video is going to proof? Is India located in the neighborhood, in particular the crossroads of Southern Levant, Egypt (Sinai) and Northern Arabia or is it located several 1000 km away? Even the closest region of India (Gujarat if I am not wrong) is located several 1000 km away from the area that we are discussing. Let's assume that he is originally from Eastern India. Make that a few extra 1000 km across mighty mountain ranges, jungles, seas, deserts you name it.

Anyway you don't get it. Some Indian national has enlisted in a foreign army as a mercenary and somehow the world is looking silently at this while if a Arab or Muslim or even a non-Arab and non-Muslim person who supports the rights of Palestinians to have their own country and not live under occupation, if he or she joined an official army of Palestine (even such a simple thing you have taken away from the Palestinians officially) he/she would be demonized using all tricks in the book and this would be spoken about for weeks. This is the hypocrisy that I am countering. And the fact that an Israel Jew feels the need to get the approval of Indians 1000's of km away that have nothing to do with the conflict. Funnily enough India used to be one of the most pro-Arab nations and always had cordial/close ties to many Arab nations which is why so many Arabs to this very day (excluding ancient trade ties) don't have a problem with Indians.

You of course no nothing about India, and would be unwilling to watch because it might have some facts as opposed to your Madrasa education.
India's Jewish community and the Christen community is older then that of Europe. The jews arrived and settled in India 1000 years during King Solomon's time before the birth of Christ and Christianity arrived in 53 years after the birth of Christ.
Watch it from 12.53

 

[Falcon29]

Okay al-Andalus

Let's just accept your position for argument's sake, big whoop asshole. No one cares that you're Jewish, you are just a drop in the ocean of semitic peoples in the region. We never read/hear about the ancient semitic people of the Middle East in any history curriculum in the US, even though they have much more significant history and attachment to the region and 'Holy Land' area. For most Americans they probably think Middle East was inhabited by Jews/Hebrews only and no nothing about Assyrians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Samaritans, Hamites, etc....

Quit behaving like everyone owes you something or you should be given more legitimacy than others.

 

[Ilay]

Go lie to gullible fanboys, retard. As soon as you approached the fence you faced combat and casualties:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...er-killed-as-Gaza-ground-invasion-begins.html

The last your army looks for is close quarters combat, your whole war philosophy is based on 'mowing the grass', not advancing on ground until neighborhood is razed down and no combatants are present.

Btw, can you give us a source? It seems like the reports have been deleted long ago after human rights groups exposed the farce.

And that was not his point at all, you just try diverting attention from the common Palestinian affected.

You sure sound like an expert keyboard general with your understanding of war tactics. Do you think, for one second that your holy freedom bombers stoped us in Gaza in 2014 then you are delusional. Our orders were solid - penetrate 1.5-3 km in and destroy the tunnels that go inside Israel. Those terrorists were only good for hit and run to UN schools sniper missions absolutely pathetic, if we wanted to every man woman and child in Gaza would be dead withing a matter of hours you cant even come close to realize the amount of precautions that we took there it was like fight a whack-a-mole with a pin-head.

 

[Falcon29]

You sure sound like an expert keyboard general with your understanding of war tactics. Do you think, for one second that your holy freedom bombers stoped us in Gaza in 2014 then you are delusional. Our orders were solid - penetrate 1.5-3 km in and destroy the tunnels that go inside Israel. Those terrorists were only good for hit and run to UN schools sniper missions absolutely pathetic, if we wanted to every man woman and child in Gaza would be dead withing a matter of hours you cant even come close to realize the amount of precautions that we took there it was like fight a whack-a-mole with a pin-head.

'Holy freedom bombers', 'terrorists', you need to try harder at making them sound evil, buddy.

Yeah move from one lie to another, don't waste everyones time here or you're getting banned.

Even in your avatar pic you're sitting on the border hiding in your tank calling airstrikes on a home ....

 

[Ilay]

'Holy freedom bombers', 'terrorists', you need to try harder at making them sound evil, buddy.

Yeah move from one lie to another, don't waste everyones time here or you're getting banned.

funny thing is I am barely even trying, all I got to do is share my story with out lying and it gets you mad.
Now go ahead and cry me a river about your poor fakestinians and get your support from SJW snowflakes and Islamic feminists on CNN.