'Lips and teeth' no more as China's ties with North Korea deteriorate

[Chinese-Dragon]

All because of unclear foreign policy. We have to take definitive sides now. One or the other. China or the US. But the T&C's have to be in black and white. No deviation and relaxation of these terms. It is a long drawn war between the US and China, and no matter who we choose, we have to be the ONE who comes on top.

I love the geo strategic location of Pakistan. Trust you me, it is us who will choose the victor in the long run. Pakistan has been selling itself short for the past few decades, it's about time we increase our asking rate, and that we shall do, no matter what.

You CHOOSE the country (America) who has MURDERED countless Pakistani civilians as well as scores of Pakistani soldiers using airstrikes, drone strikes and just regular military strikes. Whenever they felt like it.

And you reject the country (China) who has never used military weapons on Pakistani people, but has instead been the single largest investor in the Pakistani economy over the past decade or so.

Your position is anti-Pakistani, unless you count those dead Pakistani civilians and soldiers as non-Pakistani?

Pakistan has been selling itself short for the past few decades, it's about time we increase our asking rate, and that we shall do, no matter what.

I'm sure that Donald Trump, who's reputation has been built on an anti-Muslim foundation, will be willing to offer you a lot. It just might not be the support that you wanted, like those recent sanctions he imposed on Pakistan for supporting terrorist groups. Or, as he suggested, further military action.

 

[Beny Karachun]

What do you mean North Korea's "standing point"?

The wording of the mutual defence treaty between China and North Korea says that China will be forced to enter the war if South Korea and America are the first to attack.

If North Korea is the first to attack, then the treaty does not apply.

I don't think a missile test would be sufficient to classify as a first attack from North Korea.

By North Korea's standing point, I mean the fact that they have a dictator that starves his nation,
uses China as a shield while constantly improving their nuclear warheads and their missiles after threatening to nuke other nations.

I believe such actions should be punishable.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I believe such actions should be punishable.

Sure, if there was a way to punish Fat Kim without punishing the North Korean people then that would be great.

Unfortunately all the current "punishments" (including sanctions) don't hurt Fat Kim at all, he is still living a life of luxury.

 

[Chhatrapati]

There was a brief spat between the two, through North Korean news agency and Global Times - CGTN etc...


And I read Global times will cut oil supplies to NK if they test Nukes again.

The news is BS. Either Russia or China is in full support for all these.

 

[Hyperion]

Regarding 'Anti Muslim' stance, let's see:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-un-idUSKBN16O2J6

And the recent sanctions and all the heat on Pakistan has only ONE reason behind it, it's because Pakistan has been siding with China on OBOR. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm sure that Donald Trump, who's reputation has been built on an anti-Muslim foundation, will be willing to offer you a lot. It just might not be the support that you wanted, like those recent sanctions he imposed on Pakistan for supporting terrorist groups.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Sure, if there was a way to punish Fat Kim without punishing the North Korean people then that would be great.

Unfortunately all the current "punishments" (including sanctions) don't hurt Fat Kim at all, he is still living a life of luxury.

It's not about making the life of Kim worse, it's about making him control less power. I don't think dropping a JDAM on Kim Jong Un would make any difference.

Anyways, It was nice talking with you.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Regarding 'Anti Muslim' stance, let's see:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-un-idUSKBN16O2J6

And the recent sanctions and all the heat on Pakistan has only ONE reason behind it, it's because Pakistan has been siding with China on OBOR. Nothing more, nothing less.

Well you have already said that you choose America, the country that has been butchering your fellow Pakistani civilians and soldiers on a regular basis.

I just hope your fellow Pakistanis don't take it personally, considering that their own family members might have been killed by American strikes. But I guess they aren't important to you as Americans are.

And the recent sanctions and all the heat on Pakistan has only ONE reason behind it, it's because Pakistan has been siding with China on OBOR. Nothing more, nothing less.

Who cares about OBOR, even America itself attended the last OBOR meeting.

Forbes - Trump's Support For China's One Belt, One Road Initiative Is Bad For U.S., Good For World

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

I believe such actions should be punishable.

There's only so much pressure the international community can put on N. Korea Kimmy. Even China for the matter. Who's ever got the guns and manpower will rule any dictatorship. Right now Kimmy's "allies" are with him but as the past years has shown he's willing to antiaircraft gun a few to make a statement and appease the ones he likes better.

The question remains is how long Kimmy's "allies" will keep him in the throne. There's bound to be resentment and fear with the people who are losing their power to Kimmy's new friends.

 

[Hyperion]

Mate, I have no emotions when it comes to matters of national security. Trust me.

Well you have already said that you choose America, the country that has been butchering your fellow Pakistani civilians and soldiers on a regular basis.

I just hope your fellow Pakistanis don't take it personally, considering that their own family members might have been killed by American strikes. But I guess they aren't important to you as Americans are.



Who cares about OBOR, even America itself attended the last OBOR meeting.

Forbes - Trump's Support For China's One Belt, One Road Initiative Is Bad For U.S., Good For World

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Mate, I have no emotions when it comes to matters of national security. Trust me.

Oh I believe you, your fellow Pakistani citizens butchered by the American military whenever they please and you still want to choose America. Only someone without emotions could behave like that.

 

[Hyperion]

LOL. Dude. You are one consistent fella, aren't you!

Oh I believe you, your fellow Pakistani citizens butchered by the American military whenever they please and you still want to choose America. Only someone without emotions could behave like that.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

LOL. Dude. You are one consistent fella, aren't you!

Just worried about your safety, if you return to Pakistan any time soon I would advise you to keep your pro-America sentiments a secret while in public at least. You never know which Pakistani family might have lost a family member due to an American military strike.

 

[Hyperion]

My friend, you shouldn't worry about my safety. I come from a very well connected family and the privileges that go with it. Furthermore, you have absolutely no idea how Pakistan and specially Pakistanis work. Whatever you think you know, you need to rethink it.

Moreover, I'm a patriot. I don't give two hoots, who thinks what, as long as Pakistan comes first.

Just worried about your safety, if you return to Pakistan any time soon I would advise you to keep your pro-America sentiments a secret while in public at least. You never know which Pakistani family might have lost a family member due to an American military strike.

 

[wxyz]

LOL. Dude. You are one consistent fella, aren't you!

that discussion

 

[ashok321]

North Korea hacked Daewoo Shipbuilding, took warship blueprints: South Korea lawmaker

This is startling and daring!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...blueprints-south-korea-lawmaker-idUSKBN1D00EX

Ballsy Kim & his doings