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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zLELV6mhgj9fR0KZ6AGng81RCLaQJTbo?usp=sharing

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GSA - Global Socialist Alliance

Author : Rene AJM Veerman ( https://facebook.com/rene.veerman.90 )
See also my youtube channels
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And my Personal Diary entries over at youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWGWLuk2vKQ&list=PLN9FZ3ijwb1Fdx0WKtIYbHHLtBOF84yVa (channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCarMpOOCakC3nWsFG_dpjmg )


INTRODUCTION
It’s August 2020 when i write this, and from my many years of experience debating matters of life, death, and the most horrible forms of suffering from the relatively luxuriously comfortable home with fast internet on online forums,


I conclude that Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela and now Turkey too, have embraced each other in an uprising against capitalism, but in a way that most who were raised as pure capitalists can not trust yet, while i *can* trust this new alliance.


My discussion adversaries have educated me, patiently and strictly and wisely, to tolerate socialist countries with real military and economic power.


In exchange, and effectively, we educate each other in the arts of creating and maintaining peace through the application of strength and will power.

The essence of what created the wars between capitalism, socialism and which then drew in the hardliners of the Muslim faiths, has been war, which is discussed in my document ‘Humane Capitalism’, which can be found at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mL8hZyKe3vYOUsypjx3uKtULQ1HhpIQmmIujGUu4okI/edit?usp=sharing in the folder https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zLELV6mhgj9fR0KZ6AGng81RCLaQJTbo?usp=sharing , is the tendency of the dumber members of the human youthful people, to actually end up in real fights with each other.

The fact that these dumber members learn, like we all have as souls at some point in our careers as souls, that real violence is very ugly and to be avoided, because of it’s consequences.

Meanwhile, the smarter humans which in my view encompass all of the law-abiding and the peaceful humans, are protected by police and military forces, from these young humans who are constantly mis-informed by those who choose to work for the evil. And i haven’t yet figured out why evil does as evil does. Maybe it’s their instincts and their reflexes, maybe it’s more than that, maybe it’s something else than that.
What i do know for sure is that emotions can get toxic if consumed/enjoyed in harmful quantities or combinations.


Greed, for instance, can lead entire countries worth of valuable human souls, into the total misery of large scale war.

But discipline, is not much better. Enforcing discipline on a population can lead quickly to authoritarianism, to a police state where the politicians and their police and media forces become plain lazy and numb and dumb enough to enforce plan after plan onto that population, until a revolution by the people resets the rich and the politicians and the police forces to actually serve the population again.

In short, i believe that ANY excesses of mantras or slogans to live by, even in dynamic combinations thereof, have a huge potential to create large scale suffering, as surely as a medical pandemic does, but less quickly than a medical pandemic.

Excesses of slogans are a more gradual growth of a healthy or semi-healthy society (regional, like a city or province) or country, into a toxic society or country.




CONCLUSIONS : CAPITALISM MUST LEARN TO TOLERATE THE SOCIALISTS. RELIGIONS MUST LEARN TO TOLERATE ATHEISTS, LGBTQ+ MEMBERS AND ANYONE WHO DOES NOT SUBSCRIBE TO THEIR WAY OF LIFE.

Even if this does take decades more, we are now moving from a uni-polar world with only 1 policing country (the USA) into a multi-polar world (geo-politically speaking),
with the new Global Socialist Alliance, as i call it, as only the 2nd pole.

To end the suffering, capitalist countries (which are mostly Christian, and Jewish) also have to make peace with the Muslims, and with the Atheists as well. Because, if you think about it for a second or two, Atheism is a way of life, a ‘religion in and of itself’, a religion which simply has a strong desire not to have their life influenced by any of the Gods, nor by Angels.






CONCLUSIONS : WHERE DO WE NEED TO DRIVE HUMANITY TO, AND HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US TO GET THERE?


We need to practice our kung fu, our debating skills, and our money making skills.
Unfortunately, i can not predict when we’ll get at our destination (a strong yet peaceful human home world (Earth)). Not yet at least. But i’m only 43 when i wrote this, with a very healthy body that should last me at least 3 to 5 decades more.



I wrote this myself.
Your thoughts and comments, please?
 
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No thank you. We don’t want more Stalins, Pol Pots... they start with tolerate us, love the poor... and end up as mass murdering lunatics.
you're ignoring the fact that socialism evolves, like capitalism does as well.
it takes decades for that evolution to move just one baby step forward (unfortunately, and unavoidably i think),
but they DO evolve, in my opinion.

we humans tend to remember our histories. we learn from our mistakes and then re-try old ideas in a slightly modified way.
 
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now added to the original document over on Google Drive that started this thread :


CONCLUSIONS : WHICH SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT IS BETTER? CAPITALISM, OR SOCIALISM?

First, and as a general disclaimer intended to avoid long wars of words : Let's agree to disagree, shall we?...

however, on the flip-side of that coin i just passed you...

when asked the question 'which system of government is better, capitalism or socialism', i'm gonna have to answer it with a firm, stand your ground, 'capitalism' answer.


the reason for this is simple : socialism produces police states, even if they *do* manage to properly fund the social welfare 'nanny state' that one sees in Russia and China.


and i like my freedom of speech. i would not want to give it up, even though the real answer to the question should *perhaps* be that both socialism and capitalism can successfully form the basis of governing a country or group of countries.


both have their advantages, and their flaws.

the real key to ending suffering of the populations, does not revolve around only free speech and funding and how money is spent.

the real key is about finding ways (for your self, your family, and your close friends) to live in peace with people you don't agree with, with people you instinctively hate because you were taught to hate them from the time you were an infant, and because you are kept in that hate all throughout your life.
 
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you're ignoring the fact that socialism evolves, like capitalism does as well.
it takes decades for that evolution to move just one baby step forward (unfortunately, and unavoidably i think),
but they DO evolve, in my opinion.

we humans tend to remember our histories. we learn from our mistakes and then re-try old ideas in a slightly modified way.
Can’t experiment again when the results were so catastrophic. In each instance, almost everywhere it resulted in tens of millions dead and conditions far worse than the one that was supposed to be fixed. Fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me.

Yes we evolve but not by trying the same thing again but by learning from mistakes and not repeating them.
 
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Can’t experiment again when the results were so catastrophic. In each instance, almost everywhere it resulted in tens of millions dead and conditions far worse than the one that was supposed to be fixed. Fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me.

Yes we evolve but not by trying the same thing again but by learning from mistakes and not repeating them.
Capitalism genocided and enslaved half the world so i dont know what your talking about
 
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I am a Pakistani of course.

So how has capitalism, added to an expectation from the public to be "pious" / "religious" worked out for Pakistan ?

Compare Pakistan to former or current socialist republics like USSR, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Venezuela etc ? What has Pakistan achieved in 74 years other than have atom bombs ? Homelessness, malnutrition, feudalism, bonded labor, general socio-economic injustices... all are present.

Imagine if Faiz Ahmed Faiz and his socialist comrades had succeeded in gaining power in Pakistan in 1951. Pakistan would have been more developed than now.
 
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So how has capitalism, added to an expectation from the public to be "pious" / "religious" worked out for Pakistan ?

Compare Pakistan to former or current socialist republics like USSR, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Venezuela etc ? What has Pakistan achieved in 74 years other than have atom bombs ? Homelessness, malnutrition, feudalism, bonded labor, general socio-economic injustices... all are present.

Imagine if Faiz Ahmed Faiz and his socialist comrades had succeeded in gaining power in Pakistan in 1951. Pakistan would have been more developed than now.
Yeah, Pakistan got screwed by the socialists back in the 70s. It was doing very well before it. Our trajectory was equal or better than Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia and even South Korea (yes, no one wants to compare themselves with North Korea for a reason).

If any comrade were ruling us right now. I would have been dragged out by now and would have disappeared in some solitary prison (or worse) for showing dissent, labeled as agent of reactionary forces by the local commissar comrade falan falan.... thank you very much but we don’t need any of that:-)
 
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the local commissar comrade falan falan

:lol:

Yeah, Pakistan got screwed by the socialists back in the 70s. It was doing very well before it.

If you are referring to Bhutto he was replaced by Zia ( comrade of the capitalist bloc ) and as per your logic path Pakistan should have become first-world. But did it ? :)
 
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