Laughs Reacts for Martyrs on ISPR Post

[Goenitz]

We must understand that Holy Prophet SW was under depression when kuffar went on saying that your Lord has abandoned you (when revelation was ceased for a brief period.). So saying hurts, sooner or later

Really ????

then is it a serious problem? As long as the morale is fine among the ranks, public sentiment doesn't matter that much

 

[Mirzali Khan]

When did I say that's not in pakistan. But back then they were i nfuenced and managed by afghan kings.. the same afghan kings that also sold them out.

It’s not really about influencing it was really about anti imperialism

The whole nation is sold stories of socalled afghan invincibility and graveyard of empires yet you are here complaining this battle wasnt mentiond. Get over it dear.. noone is tryi g to burry rhe bravery of the tribals..there are many battles not discussed it doesn't mean the invader is honored..its a fault of our education system.

You are trying to move the goalposts to Afghanistan when funnily enough Afghanistan nor Afghans aren’t even involved here.

If it is fault of the education system so that means the army is deficit in education?

Never said that.. Army is made up of pashtuns as well. There have been several pashtun coas... it's their own force they should decide what kind of border they want in west... and what have they learnt in past 70 years..

This is the only time in Pakistans history that the Battle of Saragarhi is honored. No other COAS has done this!

 

[Mirzali Khan]

I think that's what I have been trying to explain in last few posts.. you consider it disrespect out of hindsight.. which only education can fill. The regional tribalism also considers international border as a disrespect. Can't get rid of that..

It’s not just me you do realize that right?

It’s a lot of people who actually feel offended. I think you are the one who should be educated on PR because if an institution doenst care about the sentiments of its populace then you end up having laugh reacts on matyr posts.

The regional tribalism also considers international border as a disrespect.

Nothing to with tribalism but moreso the efforts of the mujahids agaisnt anti imperialism!

it would be something else.and we have won wars against india you are just not well versed.

People surrendered with their pants down in 71 and the people have to go severe mental gymnastics to prove we won wars.

System isn’t currently working

 

[Crystal-Clear]

It's too early for the nation to comprehend what was at stake and why Imran had to go. People haven't yet quite understood Imran would have lost 2023 had he stayed ..
Yes in the meanwhile voices would raise for a punishment especially Within pti but that will be suicide for the party and it will be ignored.
There's no trick in here. it wouldn't happen. That would be like helping pmln and ppp come back.
You punished musharaf.. did it affect the army ? No it didn't. Blood of martyrs washes everything off.. Whats your case against bajwa in court? There's nothing. The courts have a bigger role themselves in regime change.

Chizain badal chuki hain 1971 se bhai . Ab social media ka dour ha log kafi aware ha . 1971 k baad to jo newspaper mey chap gya wahi sach hota tha.

 

[Goenitz]

How noble was the cause the beloved of Allah(SAWW) was on. While our Army is, well our Army.

Sure but my point was that words hurt. Even Hz Yaqoob AS was emotionally hurt till he found Hz Yusuf AS. So, army jawans are not immune to public remarks/glances even if rank and file is intact or moral is high.

 

[Zarvan]

I feel like it is a big issue, I don't know why some refuse to see the obvious issue here...

I want to know how it's a big deal. Please enlighten me. How it is such a big deal. Dude if it wasn't for political climate you would never have made a huge deal. Issue is all those making it a huge deal has anger on Army leadership for different issue and using this event to take out their anger and hence has no logic none what so ever.

 

[TigerOfMysore]

They are still eating "Keraylay and Ghost" (which I love btw), whereas the population is eating burgers (quote from a politcial commentator) - and they just dont get it. Information flow and social engineering, are methods the boomers just dont get.

 

[ziaulislam]

This opens the door to having Afghan Kings offspring visiting Bajaur and having Hari Singh’s offspring and relatives visit Mirpur to “pay homage to their dead ones”.

This is an utter disgrace on behalf of the Pakistan Army and a spit on the face of all Pashtuns, not just the ones in ex-FATA.

An “Islamic Republic” doing ardaas on a fort and honoring a place where people died for azaadi and anti imperialism.

Never respecting Pakistan army again.

Buddy this is like inviting Hari Singh’s great grandson to Mirpur and letting him do prayer rituals Lmfao

Would u mind Sikh soldiers visiting the outskirts of Lahore district as a remainder of 1965.

Yeah we should do that .let British come and celebrate 1857 war victory in lahore

I want to know how it's a big deal. Please enlighten me. How it is such a big deal. Dude if it wasn't for political climate you would never have made a huge deal. Issue is all those making it a huge deal has anger on Army leadership for different issue and using this event to take out their anger and hence has no logic none what so ever.

Not a big deal to you but big deal for people FATA. Trust me it is

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

It’s not just me you do realize that right?

It’s a lot of people who actually feel offended. I think you are the one who should be educated on PR because if an institution doenst care about the sentiments of its populace then you end up having laugh reacts on matyr posts.

I agree with that.
Not everyone is on same level of accommodation.. Pakistan army and govt should have prederably consulted with locals and made them comfortable before doing any such thing.

Nothing to with tribalism but moreso the efforts of the mujahids agaisnt anti imperialism!

The whole point is there are some tribal norms that clash in 21st century and the only thing that can fix it is a change in mindset.I gave you example of Gallipoli .here is another example

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many such examples around the world..only in this part of world it somehow hurts ego. It needs to be put across that such action doesnt mean insult or .even forgetting the tribal contribution against imperialism.

And dear in 71 we had their men surrender here in Western theater. Let's not go there and drift from topic.

 

[SaadH]

Well we hate Indian Sikhs. So we don’t believe in their make belief 300 Spartan stories nor do we like the statue of ranjit singh(another reason we hate Lahoris) in Lahore.

There are certain biradiris in Punjab that favor their own across the border, so in essence Bajwa and you are a lot alike in the sense that you favor Afghans over Pakistanis.

Unfortunately, Arain are not one of those biradiris and that’s also probably why we’re the most hated in Punjab.

The greatest punjabi and my favorite of all time Ziaul Haq was an Arain.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

The greatest punjabi and my favorite of all time Ziaul Haq was an Arain.

Everybody on this forum hates him though. He's a distant relative of mine.

My aunt was a child when his plane exploded outside of Bahawalpur. They went to see the wreckage and found some teeth in the debris. She wrapped them in cloth and would tell everyone she has zia ul haq's teeth. Years later when we were growing up she told us this story and I was like khala ji, zia was not the only one on that plane. You might have some angrez's teeth.

 

[Sayfullah]

When you honor your heroes they feel insulted. This area had all religion. Your heroes are their villains their heroes are yours. Just learn to respect that and if they want to visit their choice. For GOD sake stop making everything a huge deal.

So British army wasn’t occupier then? British Sikh soldiers were hero’s for occupying Muslim tribal lands? Is Pakistan a continuation of British Raj that we celebrate their success?
Why name a ssg battalion Powindah when you want to show British soldiers as hero’s? Why act like Pakistan broke free from British occupation when you want to celebrate the occupiers? That’s like saying Azad Kashmir should celebrate Indian soldiers because apparently they were hero’s according to your logic.

I want to know how it's a big deal. Please enlighten me. How it is such a big deal. Dude if it wasn't for political climate you would never have made a huge deal. Issue is all those making it a huge deal has anger on Army leadership for different issue and using this event to take out their anger and hence has no logic none what so ever.

Might as well name Pakistan secular republic of Pakistan, be besties with india, give you Kashmir and recognize Israel.
Don’t put Islamic in Pakistan’s name or make songs with Islamic slogans if your gonna let kaffir occupiers come and worship at the point where they massacred many muslim tribals.
Pakistan does stuff like this then wonders why tribals fight against it.

 

[Sayfullah]

I want to know how it's a big deal. Please enlighten me. How it is such a big deal. Dude if it wasn't for political climate you would never have made a huge deal. Issue is all those making it a huge deal has anger on Army leadership for different issue and using this event to take out their anger and hence has no logic none what so ever.

Let’s see how you feel if Pakistan invites British soldiers to celebrate the massacres it did it Punjab. Maybe build a statue for the queen in Punjab too.
(Btw I’m Punjabi my self)

 

[SaadH]

Yeah, we hate that kanna for what he did to Uch Sharif.

That kanna who is now a hero to Pakistani punjabi nationalists, also destroyed badshahi masjid which had to be completely restored under punjab's first Muslim governor under British rule Sikander Hayat Khan.

 

[General Dong]

Boot lickers everywhere are getting upset the veil and autonomy their masters in GHQ have enjoyed for nearly all of Pakistans existence is dissapearing.