Kashmir's illegal occupation by India justifies calls for Azadi: JNU Professor.

[WAR-rior]

Don't be a dumb joker. Read what you just post. Balochistan, assam, khalistan, maharatra, tamiaddua, nagaland, etc are respective legal territories of their union countries unlike Indian Occupied Kashmir or South Tibet which have occupier terrorists doing their state sponsored terrorism. IOK & South Tibet are occupied territories that have around 9lakh indian occupier terrorists.

Not interested in your verbal excreta. First spell the names properly before trying to show yourself an expert.

 

[American Pakistani]

You think Kashmir is disputed. We don't think so. We don't give two hoots about what pakistani think about Kashmir.

There is a group which demands freedom in Baluchistan and a group in Kashmir. Both ain't too different. And I can get you kashmiris like your case to talk about Indian sovereignty.

So let's talk logic. Shouldn't we?

By that logic khalistan, maharatra, tamiaddua, nagaland, assam, etc are all disputed.

Your brain fart won't change facts. Your RAW aka BLA terrorists have leaders sitting in Afghanistan, UAE, Switzerland and you think they really have Baloch support? This forum have tons of Balochs.

 

[911]

So basically you are saying India does not have moral grounds to occupy Kashmir but it is doing so because forcefully it can. And the professor who said so should be put in jail for torture unless he is stopped for speaking his opinion. Pretty messed up thought line don't you think?

Well if it was only 2% as you claimed then I am sure the thousands of Military wouldn't be needed.

We will continue to defend our land from possible invasion.

 

[The Eagle]

Army posted is on the borders to stop your countrymen. Those inside are JK police which itself is formed of Kashmiris that too Muslims. The figures that you are fed is cumulative of army, paramilitary and police. As I said, got know nothing about the truth.

Your feed and facts differs a lot..

Check a little bit about that as follows:

The Indian Army, central reserve police force, border security personnel and various separatistmilitant groups[1][2] have been accused and held accountable for committing severe human rights abuses againstKashmiri civilians.[3][4][5]

2 Army Personnel, 5 Terrorists Killed In Gunbattle In Kupwara

Jammu And Kashmir Encounter: Army Pays Tribute To Capt Tushar Mahajan

Just to tell you that Indian Army is all in there.

Indian Armed Forces[edit]
Thousands of Kashmiris have reported to be killed by Indian security forces in custody, extradjudicial executions and enforced disappearances and these human right violations are said to be carried out by Indian security forces under total impunity.[26][27] Civilians including women and children have been killed in "reprisal" attacks by Indian security forces. International NGO's as well as the US State Department have documented human rights abuses including disappearances, torture and arbitrary executions carried out during India's counter terrorism operations [19] United Nations has expressed serious concerns over large number of killings by Indian security forces.[28] Human Rights groups have also accused the Indian security forces of using child soldiers,[29][note 1] although the Indian government denies this allegation.[5] Torture, widely used by Indian security, the severity described as beyond comprehension by amnesty international has been responsible for the huge number of deaths in custody[30] The Telegraph, citing a WikiLeaks report quotes the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) that Indian security forces were physically abusing detainees by beatings, electrocutions and sexual interference. These detainees weren't Islamic insurgents or Pakistani-backed insurgents but civilians, in contrast to India's continual allegations of Pakistani involvement. The detainees were "connected to or believed to have information about the insurgents". According to ICRC, 681 of the 1296 detainees whom it interviewed claimed torture. US officials have been quoted reporting "terrorism investigations and court cases tend to rely upon confessions, many of which are obtained under duress if not beatings, threats, or in some cases torture."[31] Amnesty International accused security forces of exploiting the Armed Forces Special Powers Act that enables them to "hold prisoners without trial". The group argues that the law, which allows security to detain individuals for as many as two years "without presenting charges, violating prisoners’ human rights".[32]

Indian Army[edit]
The soldiers of the 4th Rajputana Rifles of the Indian Army on 23 February 1991 launched a search operation in a village Kunan Poshpora, in the Kupwara district of Jammu and Kashmir and allegedly gang raped 53 women of all ages.[33] Later on an interview of victims and eyewitnesses was documented into a short film Ocean of Tears which was prevented from its broadcast.[34][35] Nevertheless, the Indian committee that led a thorough investigation concluded that the allegations were "grossly exaggerated" and the incident was "a massive hoax orchestrated by militant groups and their sympathisers and mentors in Kashmir and abroad as a part of sustained and cleverly contrived strategy of psychological warfare and as an entry point for reinscribing Kashmir on the International Agenda as a Human rights issue."[36] However, Human Rights organisations including Human Rights Watch have reported that the number of raped women could be as high as 80 .[37][38][39]The Indian Army is also accused of many massacres such as Bomai Killing, 2009, Gawakadal massacre, 2006 Kulgam massacre, Zakoora And Tengpora Massacre, 1990, Sopore massacre. They also didn‘t spared the health care system of the valley. The major hospitals witnessed the crackdowns and army men even entered the operation theatres in search of terrorist patients.[40]

Border Security Force[edit]
On 22 October 1993, the 13th Battalion of the Border Security Forces was accused of arbitrarily firing on a crowd and killing 37 civilians in Bijbehara[41][42] The number of reported dead and wounded vary by source. Amnesty International reported that at least 51 people died and 200 were wounded on that day.[43]

The Indian government conducted two official enquiries and the National Human Rights Commission of India (NHRC) conducted a third. In March 1994 the government indicted the Border Security Force (BSF) for firing into the crowd "without provocation" and charged 13 BSF officers with murder.[41] In another incident which took place at Handwara on 25 January 1990, 9 protesters were killed by the same unit.[44]

Central Reserve Police Force[edit]
During the Amarnath land transfer controversy more than 40 unarmed protesters were killed by the personnels of Central Reserve Police Force.[45][46] At least 300 were detained under Public Safety Act, including teenagers.[47] The same practice was again repeated by the personnels of the Central Reserve Police Force, during the 2010 Kashmir Unrest, which resulted in 112 deaths, including many teenager protesters at various incidents.[48]

Special Operations Group[edit]
The Special Operations Group was raised in 1994 for counter terrorism. A volunteer force, mainly came for promotions and cash rewards, comprising police officers and policemen from the Jammu and Kashmir Police.[49] The group is accused of torture and costodial killings.[50] A Senior Superintendent of this group and his deputy are among the 11 personnels, who were convicted for a fake encounter, which killed a local carpenter, and was labelled as a millitant to get the promotions and rewards.[51][52]

 

[American Pakistani]

Not interested in your verbal excreta. First spell the names properly before trying to show yourself an expert.

You are desperately interested that's why you quoted my post.

Worry about your bharat Mata not other nations.

 

[CHD]

You think Kashmir is disputed. We don't think so. We don't give two hoots about what pakistani think about Kashmir.

There is a group which demands freedom in Baluchistan and a group in Kashmir. Both ain't too different. And I can get you kashmiris like your case to talk about Indian sovereignty.

So let's talk logic. Shouldn't we?

Is there any country/UN out their which says that Kashmir is not disputed and is integral part of india? and is their any country/UN swhich says that Balochistan is disputed?

 

[The Eagle]

We will continue to defend our land from possible invasion.

Your land??? At least check the resistance and ownership of the land that India has occupied. Just closing your eyes and a blind trust upon ill feed of your Government wouldn't change the reality at all.

 

[WAR-rior]

Your feed and facts differs a lot..

Check a little bit about that as follows:

The Indian Army, central reserve police force, border security personnel and various separatistmilitant groups[1][2] have been accused and held accountable for committing severe human rights abuses againstKashmiri civilians.[3][4][5]

2 Army Personnel, 5 Terrorists Killed In Gunbattle In Kupwara

Jammu And Kashmir Encounter: Army Pays Tribute To Capt Tushar Mahajan

Just to tell you that Indian Army is all in there.

Indian Armed Forces[edit]
Thousands of Kashmiris have reported to be killed by Indian security forces in custody, extradjudicial executions and enforced disappearances and these human right violations are said to be carried out by Indian security forces under total impunity.[26][27] Civilians including women and children have been killed in "reprisal" attacks by Indian security forces. International NGO's as well as the US State Department have documented human rights abuses including disappearances, torture and arbitrary executions carried out during India's counter terrorism operations [19] United Nations has expressed serious concerns over large number of killings by Indian security forces.[28] Human Rights groups have also accused the Indian security forces of using child soldiers,[29][note 1] although the Indian government denies this allegation.[5] Torture, widely used by Indian security, the severity described as beyond comprehension by amnesty international has been responsible for the huge number of deaths in custody[30] The Telegraph, citing a WikiLeaks report quotes the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) that Indian security forces were physically abusing detainees by beatings, electrocutions and sexual interference. These detainees weren't Islamic insurgents or Pakistani-backed insurgents but civilians, in contrast to India's continual allegations of Pakistani involvement. The detainees were "connected to or believed to have information about the insurgents". According to ICRC, 681 of the 1296 detainees whom it interviewed claimed torture. US officials have been quoted reporting "terrorism investigations and court cases tend to rely upon confessions, many of which are obtained under duress if not beatings, threats, or in some cases torture."[31] Amnesty International accused security forces of exploiting the Armed Forces Special Powers Act that enables them to "hold prisoners without trial". The group argues that the law, which allows security to detain individuals for as many as two years "without presenting charges, violating prisoners’ human rights".[32]

Indian Army[edit]
The soldiers of the 4th Rajputana Rifles of the Indian Army on 23 February 1991 launched a search operation in a village Kunan Poshpora, in the Kupwara district of Jammu and Kashmir and allegedly gang raped 53 women of all ages.[33] Later on an interview of victims and eyewitnesses was documented into a short film Ocean of Tears which was prevented from its broadcast.[34][35] Nevertheless, the Indian committee that led a thorough investigation concluded that the allegations were "grossly exaggerated" and the incident was "a massive hoax orchestrated by militant groups and their sympathisers and mentors in Kashmir and abroad as a part of sustained and cleverly contrived strategy of psychological warfare and as an entry point for reinscribing Kashmir on the International Agenda as a Human rights issue."[36] However, Human Rights organisations including Human Rights Watch have reported that the number of raped women could be as high as 80 .[37][38][39]The Indian Army is also accused of many massacres such as Bomai Killing, 2009, Gawakadal massacre, 2006 Kulgam massacre, Zakoora And Tengpora Massacre, 1990, Sopore massacre. They also didn‘t spared the health care system of the valley. The major hospitals witnessed the crackdowns and army men even entered the operation theatres in search of terrorist patients.[40]

Border Security Force[edit]
On 22 October 1993, the 13th Battalion of the Border Security Forces was accused of arbitrarily firing on a crowd and killing 37 civilians in Bijbehara[41][42] The number of reported dead and wounded vary by source. Amnesty International reported that at least 51 people died and 200 were wounded on that day.[43]

The Indian government conducted two official enquiries and the National Human Rights Commission of India (NHRC) conducted a third. In March 1994 the government indicted the Border Security Force (BSF) for firing into the crowd "without provocation" and charged 13 BSF officers with murder.[41] In another incident which took place at Handwara on 25 January 1990, 9 protesters were killed by the same unit.[44]

Central Reserve Police Force[edit]
During the Amarnath land transfer controversy more than 40 unarmed protesters were killed by the personnels of Central Reserve Police Force.[45][46] At least 300 were detained under Public Safety Act, including teenagers.[47] The same practice was again repeated by the personnels of the Central Reserve Police Force, during the 2010 Kashmir Unrest, which resulted in 112 deaths, including many teenager protesters at various incidents.[48]

Special Operations Group[edit]
The Special Operations Group was raised in 1994 for counter terrorism. A volunteer force, mainly came for promotions and cash rewards, comprising police officers and policemen from the Jammu and Kashmir Police.[49] The group is accused of torture and costodial killings.[50] A Senior Superintendent of this group and his deputy are among the 11 personnels, who were convicted for a fake encounter, which killed a local carpenter, and was labelled as a millitant to get the promotions and rewards.[51][52]

OK agreed that things went bad when Benazir bhutto called for Kashmir revolution in name of Islam. Poor pandits were the casualty and things did happen for bad.

But tell me, why is the crpf, which are all Kashmiris and majority Muslims accused for the atrocities?

 

[American Pakistani]

@WebMaster @Horus @WAJsal @Irfan Baloch @waz
Why some jokers are dragging Balochistan?

Should I start posting about tamiaddua, maharatra, assam, khalistan, west bangladesh, hyderabad deccan, junagadh manvadr?

Why would Pakistanis get banned if they post off topic but not these jokers?

This thread is about INDIAN OCCUPIED KASHMIR. We would like to shed light on 7 lakh indian occupier terrorists doing terrorism in IOK.

 

[WAR-rior]

You are desperately interested that's why you quoted my post.

Worry about your bharat Mata not other nations.

I quoted you to inform you directly that after getting enlightened to your logic and hypocrisy, I don't find it logical to continue discussion with you.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

@WebMaster @Horus @WAJsal @Irfan Baloch @waz
Why some jokers are dragging Balochistan?

Should I start posting about tamiaddua, maharatra, assam, khalistan, west bangladesh, hyderabad deccan, junagadh manvadr?

Why would Pakistanis get banned if they post off topic but not these jokers?

This thread is about INDIAN OCCUPIED KASHMIR. We would like to shed light on 7 lakh indian occupier terrorists doing terrorism in IOK.

You see changing the subject is a clear sign of defeat.

 

[911]

Your land??? At least check the resistance and ownership of the land that India has occupied. Just closing your eyes and a blind trust upon ill feed of your Government wouldn't change the reality at all.

Who decides that who has rights to live where? Give its answer.

 

[American Pakistani]

I quoted you to inform you directly that after getting enlightened to your logic and hypocrisy, I don't find it logical to continue discussion with you.

I can say,

some nations are world largest hypocrisy oops democracy, unlike pakistan

But I won't fall to your level.

There is no hypocrisy on my side. Use brain if you are not 99% of Katja described ppl. You called me hypocrite, but I'm not hypocrite. Cuz if I was like you I would be posting about tamiaddua, nagaland, maharatra, khalistan, assam, west bangladesh, etc

 

[WAR-rior]

Is there any country/UN out their which says that Kashmir is not disputed and is integral part of india? and is their any country/UN swhich says that Balochistan is disputed?

Why getting selective? It's you same Pakistanis who call UN an ineffective body when they decide to not interfere against India's stance on Kashmir.

 

[The Eagle]

Who decides that who has rights to live where? Give its answer.

That is exactly Kashmiris are seeking the freedom from India occupied forces as a decision based upon their rights yet are facing extremism and occupation of India.