Kashmir, The Way Forward : Shaykh Imran Hosein

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

If I could, I would have given you positive rating for this beautiful post but I do not have this option. But thank you, brother.

I wish WE could meet in person.

Thank you brother, very kind of you.

I am a student of Dr. Israr Ahmad RA, whom I followed meticulously as a youngster and whom I knew personally.

He was a man of intense patriotism and loyalty, not just for Islam, but for Pakistan as well.

I also knew Sheikh Imran Hosein very well in my youth. I respected him deeply for his insights on Islamic Eschatology and it pushed me towards this subject later in life.

However, sometime in the mid-2000s, something in his mindset went terribly wrong. He disowned his old work and ideas heavily influenced by Dr. Israr and Allama Iqbal. He cursed Pakistan and developed a strong venomous hatred for Pakistanis.

What we see now is the end result of that road which he has taken, in which Orthodox armies are “Ghazis and Momineen” and our Turkish brothers became “Kaffirs” in his eyes.

In his old age, he is adopting increasingly dangerous ideas and falling into the hands of evil people.

 

[Nasr]

He has dangerous ideas. I think his supporters are very likely to fall into the realm of conspiracy theorists.

Really?! Is it a conspiracy theory to say that Zionists co-opted Britain, ruling and controlling them? Do have any clue about what happened in 1815, after the battle of waterloo? Have you read the balfour declaration? Have you read the confessions of an economic hitman by John Perkins? Read "Step into the light" a book authored by a former British Army major, about the City of London Corporation. The Square-Mile that British Courts or the London Metropolitan Police has zero jurisdiction over. Go read the Bretten Woods Agreement of the enslavement of humanity, economically through creation of IMF/WB and Dollar becoming the reserve currency of the world.

These aren't lies, Imran Hosein isn't misinforming people, they are factually verified.

 

[Numerous]

Really?! Is it a conspiracy theory to say that Zionists co-opted Britain, ruling and controlling them? Do have any clue about what happened in 1815, after the battle of waterloo? Have you read the balfour declaration? Have you read the confessions of an economic hitman by John Perkins? Read "Step into the light" a book authored by a former British Army major, about the City of London Corporation. The Square-Mile that British Courts or the London Metropolitan Police has zero jurisdiction over. Go read the Bretten Woods Agreement of the enslavement of humanity, economically through creation of IMF/WB and Dollar becoming the reserve currency of the world.

These aren't lies, Imran Hosein isn't misinforming people, they are factually verified.

He has wacky ideas about countries like Russia. I recall he said some weird stuff about Yajuj and majuj too. If I went and opened up one of his books, I could probably go on for ages. Normally people like this aren't dangerous by themselves but sometimes they attract a following and it becomes problematic when Muslims take up some of these ideas and that is dangerous.

 

[Menace2Society]

He has been anti Pakistani since 2007 that much is clear. He was backing TTP. No time for anti Pakistanis.

 

[litman]

once i used to wait for his new lecture but now he speaks non sense most of the time. he loves hindus and christians more then muslims and always tries to please them. overall now he is a confused person. may be age is havifn its effects on his cognitive abilities.

 

[Nasr]

Look everyone, for me you are all Muslims first. I don't personally care what you think about Imran Hosein. I personally don't care what you all think about Imran Khan either.

You all have to learn to extract pertinent knowledge wherever available and understand the fact that nobody is perfect. That the one's who have valid knowledge and are not perfect are differenciated from the corrupt liar politicians and mullahs, is where their priorities are for God, not man or country.

So if you all want to call Imran Hosein a wacko, or milkshake, or whatever the heck else your imaginative minds can conjure up. It doesn't make a difference to me or to anyone who believes that Imran Hosein is correct about certain things like Riba, like zionists, like dajjal, like ottoman turks, like saudi-wahhabi regime.

I don't agree with some things that Imran Hosein myself, but that only moves me to investigate the matter myself and engage with other knowledgeable scholars as well as Imran Hosein to find the answers to the matters I find issue with. And you know what, sometimes my instincts turn out correct, and have been appreciated and accepted by scholars or Imran Hosein.

True nature of one who seeks truth and knowledge is being open to the idea, that I can be wrong. But if you're stuck in a rut mentality, then that is your problem and your problem alone. No one can help you with that, unless you try to ask the questions which point to contradiction.

Bottomline, say what you want, believe what you want and you better hope that you aren't wrong. Because if you are wrong, then it is at your own detriment. For those who seek knowledge, do not look at the man, rather look at themselves and the questions that stem in our minds. Man is fallible, we make mistakes, but those who choose arrogance and hubris, are the ones who will fail miserably in the end.

I have pointed out my views and analysis on the subject. But I issue to all a warning, BEWARE of those who skew words, use misinformation to push forward their own narratives. Either to achieve their own agenda knowingly or unknowingly. It is up to you to decide, whether you turn toward Allah in times of when you are surrounded by misinformation and or lack of information. Or whether you choose to follow idiots. The choice is yours alone!

Ma'assalaamah!

 

[Clutch]

Thank you brother, very kind of you.

I am a student of Dr. Israr Ahmad RA, whom I followed meticulously as a youngster and whom I knew personally.

He was a man of intense patriotism and loyalty, not just for Islam, but for Pakistan as well.

I also knew Sheikh Imran Hosein very well in my youth. I respected him deeply for his insights on Islamic Eschatology and it pushed me towards this subject later in life.

However, sometime in the mid-2000s, something in his mindset went terribly wrong. He disowned his old work and ideas heavily influenced by Dr. Israr and Allama Iqbal. He cursed Pakistan and developed a strong venomous hatred for Pakistanis.

What we see now is the end result of that road which he has taken, in which Orthodox armies are “Ghazis and Momineen” and our Turkish brothers became “Kaffirs” in his eyes.

In his old age, he is adopting increasingly dangerous ideas and falling into the hands of evil people.

Awesome! +1

My exact sentiments about Imran Hosein. He had me listening in his early days... Now he has gone off the reservation.

He actually said in his recent Kashmir video below ... Kashmiris should apologize to the Indian Hindus and the India revoking of Article 370 is a natural reaction by Hindus victimized by the Moghals!!!

At 10:50 he is talking about Hindu pain because of Muslims

At 14:10 he says Kashmiris should apologize to the Hindu Modi RSS India... What a sick sick man!

At 21:00 he says Hinduism is the same as monolithic Islam - what a lie!

At 32:20 he attacks Pakistan's founder Muhammed Ali Jinnah as a deviant British Agent

At 42:20 he attacks Pakistan because it has IMF loans... But Milk Sheikh Imran Hosein, which Muslim country doesn't have IMF loans?? Why make an exclusive exemption for Pakistan????

What a deviant sick sick man!!! Pure evil!!

@Nasr

 

[Psychic]

He actually said in his recent Kashmir video below ... Kashmiris should apologize to the Indian Hindus and the India revoking of Article 370 is a natural reaction by Hindus victimized by the Moghals!!!

He does not know the history of the sub-continent.

Mughal King Akbar conquered Kashmir in 1586. His conquest ended the indigenous Shah Mir dynasty that ruled Kashmir. He exiled the last Kashmiri king Yusuf Shah who later died in exile. Yet his highness wants the Kashmiris to apologize for the Mughal rule. And anyone who believes that the Mughals oppressed the Hindus should read a book on history before opening his mouth.

P.S - The rule of Ranjit Singh in the Kashmir valley was one of starvation and extortion. Hindu beliefs were asserted and cow slaughter was made punishable by death. Later on, after defeating the Sikhs, the British literally sold the Kashmiris into slavery of the Dogra Hindus of Jammu. The condition of the Muslims remained appalling throughout the Dogra rule in which the Hindu Pandits progressed at the expense of the Muslims. And they are suffering from 1947 to this day at the hands of his innocent oppressed peace loving monotheist Hindu regime.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

@Nasr Our Proud Pakistani and Muslim brother,

Many things which this Sheikh had said in the past were true, but he is not the man he once was.

He is no longer the strong defender of Islam and respected speaker who took the side of Muslims against all others.

He has changed.

He has adopted the talking points of Orthodox Christians and Hindus, some of whom are the biggest and most ferocious enemies of Islam and seekers of Muslim blood on the planet.

He is 100% correct about Israel, Dajjal, Riba, Yajuj Majuj, and Yawm ul Akhir (the last days.)

He is 100% wrong about Fatih Constantiniyya, Seljuks, Ottomans, Turkey, Pakistan, Mughal Empire, Mahmud Ghazni, Ghori, Dilli Sultanat, Kashmir, Bosnia, Kosovo, Ghazwa Hind, and Khorasaan Army.

Most importantly he is dead wrong about Russia. Have you forgotten their bloody invasion of Afghanistan? Their unfettered support of India, Greeks, and Serbs massacres of Muslims. They were also instrumental in supporting the formation of BD actively.

 

[Kabira]

Awesome! +1

My exact sentiments about Imran Hosein. He had me listening in his early days... Now he has gone off the reservation.

He actually said in his recent Kashmir video below ... Kashmiris should apologize to the Indian Hindus and the India revoking of Article 370 is a natural reaction by Hindus victimized by the Moghals!!!

At 10:50 he is talking about Hindu pain because of Muslims

At 14:10 he says Kashmiris should apologize to the Hindu Modi RSS India... What a sick sick man!

At 21:00 he says Hinduism is the same as monolithic Islam - what a lie!

At 32:20 he attacks Pakistan's founder Muhammed Ali Jinnah as a deviant British Agent

At 42:20 he attacks Pakistan because it has IMF loans... But Milk Sheikh Imran Hosein, which Muslim country doesn't have IMF loans?? Why make an exclusive exemption for Pakistan????

What a deviant sick sick man!!! Pure evil!!

@Nasr

Why are you surprised? This is your average Indian muslim mullah. Why do you think no reaction comes from Indian muslims even when hindus lynch them?

Why should Kashmiris apologise for mughal rule which was better for hindus then current RSS rule is for Indian muslims. The only people late mughals oppressed from religious pov were sikh gurus.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Why are you surprised? This is your average Indian muslim mullah. Why do you think no reaction comes from Indian muslims even when hindus lynch them?

Why should Kashmiris apologise for mughal rule which was better for hindus then current RSS rule is for Indian muslims. The only people late mughals oppressed from religious pov were sikh gurus.

Completely correct here. He is definitely being influenced by some Nationalist Indian Muslim extremists against Pakistan.

There is no doubt about it.

I remember when I knew him, he always used to mention the fact that he is a Gujarati Indian origin man from Trinidad. The fact is that he was always insecure about his identity around us, mostly, Pakistanis.

Many Indian Muslims and Bangladeshis have deep insecurities and complexes around Pakistanis, sometimes it morphs into hate and anger. Even the Arabs have some strange complexes around us too, which also comes out against Turks.

Pakistanis are mostly oblivious to it, as we are generally a pro-Muslim people and non-racial in nature.

I noticed quite recently also that many of his students are Indian muslims from a Western countries. Anti-Pakistan narratives reinforces their prejudices and feeds his support base.

 

[Psychic]

Why do you think no reaction comes from Indian muslims even when hindus lynch them?

Many among the Indian Muslims blame Pakistan for mob lynchings. According to them, Pakistan's actions against India have turned the Indian Hindus hostile towards the Indian Muslims. Their blind love for their country and for their forefathers who chose secular India over Islamic Pakistan will guarantee a miserable life for their future generations. The first step which they need to take is to acknowledge the fact that their forefathers had erred. The Muslims who, back in those days, had stood with the congress were myopic, imprudent and obstinate. The rise of Hindu supremacists in India has vindicated Jinnah's narrative. The "sarkari Muslims" who happen to be the most stubborn proponents of Indian state's policies and the ideology of congress can continue to gloss over the miscalculation of their leaders who opposed the partition of the sub-continent at each and every step.

 

[Strike X]

He is a hardcore sufism, stay away from him.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Don't know if this is the right section. Plz move it to the right section if need be.
Viewpoint on Kashmir from religious voices of Pakistan. We commonly hear intellectuals and azad khayal types. I thought I'll post views of the right wing(not extremist) islamic orgs.

 

[WarKa DaNG]

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