Kashmir - Past & Present, How our Forefathers Sacrificed so much against India

[pak-yes]

True indeed. You peeved off India and now you should try pacifying her. Maybe then she will listen to you

Musharraf tried it but it in the end only a single terrorist attack washed it away.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Musharraf tried it but it in the end only a single terrorist attack washed it away.

Well then it is time for Pakistan to co ordinate her various tiers of government and ensure that it functions as one unit. Excuses by the executive of Pakistan that they weren't aware of the actions of the military or the non state actors isn't an internationally accepted excuse. If Pakistan is genuine about negotiations it cannot engage in talks and at the same time wage war. The BJP were red faced when they tried talking peace and negotiations with Pakistan. That was their political immaturity. Congress is a more mature political entity in India and dances to the same song which Pakistan is dancing to. Now Pakistan must decide whether it wants to dance to the salsa or the rumba or the bhangra. But never forget that Congress is an expert Bollywood type dancer and hidden agendas by Pakistan will only result in it spraining its ankles.

 

[pak-yes]

Well then it is time for Pakistan to co ordinate her various tiers of government and ensure that it functions as one unit. Excuses by the executive of Pakistan that they weren't aware of the actions of the military or the non state actors isn't an internationally accepted excuse. If Pakistan is genuine about negotiations it cannot engage in talks and at the same time wage war. The BJP were red faced when they tried talking peace and negotiations with Pakistan. That was their political immaturity. Congress is a more mature political entity in India and dances to the same song which Pakistan is dancing to. Now Pakistan must decide whether it wants to dance to the salsa or the rumba or the bhangra. But never forget that Congress is an expert Bollywood type dancer and hidden agendas by Pakistan will only result in it spraining its ankles.

So should i assume that INDIA also doesn't know our problems.And they are also like the stupid west.

 

[karan.1970]

So should i assume that INDIA also doesn't know our problems.And they are also like the stupid west.

Can you expand on this a little.. ??

 

[PlanetWarrior]

So should i assume that INDIA also doesn't know our problems.And they are also like the stupid west.

We do. But those are your problems not ours. You are a sovereign nation. If any part of your government messes with any of your neighbours please do not expect sympathy from anybody in the world. I have always maintained that if the original inhabitants of Kashmir in majority voted for independence then India and Pakistan should give Kashmir its independence. Pakistan however has been such a great help to India in its justification of retaining Kashmir. In fact, India should have an annual award day for a nominated Pakistani who helped India justify its ownership of Kashmir. Its just such a pity that former PM Shariff and General Musharraf wasn't handed that award in the past

 

[pak-yes]

We do. But those are your problems not ours. You are a sovereign nation. If any part of your government messes with any of your neighbours please do not expect sympathy from anybody in the world. I have always maintained that if the original inhabitants of Kashmir in majority voted for independence then India and Pakistan should give Kashmir its independence. Pakistan however has been such a great help to India in its justification of retaining Kashmir. In fact, India should have an annual award day for a nominated Pakistani who helped India justify its ownership of Kashmir. Its just such a pity that former PM Shariff and General Musharraf wasn't handed that award in the past

When did you held a public referendum in Kashmir ?

 

[Abhiras]

According to the latest 'Freedom of the world' report:

*Indian Kashmir is partly free
*Pakistani occupied Kashmir is not free

scale is from 1 to 7...'1' means most free '7' means least free
indian kashmir =political right of people-4;;;;;;;;;; civil right of people-4{partly free}

pakistan occupied kashmir =political right of people-6,;;;;;;;;civil right of people-5{not free}



so indian citizen of Kashmir enjoys more freedom (both political & civil)

 

[karan.1970]

According to the latest 'Freedom of the world' report:

*Indian Kashmir is partly free
*Pakistani occupied Kashmir is not free

scale is from 1 to 7...'1' means most free '7' means least free
indian kashmir =political right of people-4;;;;;;;;;; civil right of people-4{partly free}

pakistan occupied kashmir =political right of people-6,;;;;;;;;civil right of people-5{not free}



so indian citizen of Kashmir enjoys more freedom (both political & civil)

can you share the Source pl

 

[Abhiras]

can you share the Source pl

yeah sure ;
here the 'Freedom of the world 2010' report..

check out disputed area near the end of the report:

http://www.freedomhouse.org/uploads/fiw10/FIW_2010_Tables_and_Graphs.pdf

 

[asq]

Issue needs to be resolved peacefully. But attitude on both sides of the border is bad. Zaid Hamid doesn't care about Kashmir or its people. Ego and political points are his goal. If Pakistan believes that the Kashmir issue will be resolved by sending in a few guys hiding in some cave and going out to kill a few civilians once in awhile, it sure has to wait until the end of the world before it can even dream of occupying Kashmir. Insulting India will also not make India back off. A mature political approach from both sides is the only solution for resolution of Kashmir issue. Fact of the matter is that India has Kashmir and has the strength to hold onto Kashmir indefinately. Pakistan needs to adopt a more mature approach toward resolution of Kashmir issue if it is genuine about its claims

Keep believing Indian propoganda.

 

[asq]

According to the latest 'Freedom of the world' report:

*Indian Kashmir is partly free
*Pakistani occupied Kashmir is not free

scale is from 1 to 7...'1' means most free '7' means least free
indian kashmir =political right of people-4;;;;;;;;;; civil right of people-4{partly free}

pakistan occupied kashmir =political right of people-6,;;;;;;;;civil right of people-5



so indian citizen of Kashmir enjoys more freedom (both political & civil)

U see them ejoying, it is so sad. this has been discussed umpteem times, so stop your silly agument and your inuendo about Kashmiri freedom fighters and your assumptions about kashmit.

 

[LCA Tejas]

U see them ejoying, it is so sad. this has been discussed umpteem times, so stop your silly agument and your inuendo about Kashmiri freedom fighters and your assumptions about kashmit.

Are pakistanis brave enough to snatch it from us? Come on.... It acn only happen in your sweet little day wet dreams........ So You create freedom fighter aka "terrorists" what the world calls and fall into the hands of Taliban..... So kashmir is not pakistans business, How can it be when its a part of India?

 

[jha]

you know actually i enjoyed the videos....what a great example of eye washing and falsely chest thumping videos....since so many people actually enjoy these videos and this guy is regularly called to visit and lecture in universities and engineering colleges, i am amazed...i wonder if ever any defence analyst or, some general will be called in our colleges to lecture on foreign policies...
anyways good for him...no wonder veteran columnists like hassan nissar are no where to be seen nowadays in pakistan media...

 

[Xtremeownage]

According to the latest 'Freedom of the world' report:

*Indian Kashmir is partly free
*Pakistani occupied Kashmir is not free

scale is from 1 to 7...'1' means most free '7' means least free
indian kashmir =political right of people-4;;;;;;;;;; civil right of people-4{partly free}

pakistan occupied kashmir =political right of people-6,;;;;;;;;civil right of people-5{not free}



so indian citizen of Kashmir enjoys more freedom (both political & civil)

For every 5 Kashmiri citizens there is an Indian officer! IOK is a police state! There are curfews there, over 1000 000+ innocent Kashmiris died there by the barbaric Indian army!

In Pakistani controlled Kashmir, people are free and have no worries about being abused and killed by the police. There are NO freedom or seperatist rallies, and no genocide of the people! Kashmiris are Pakistanis, keep your Indian propaganda OUT!

Kashmiris have always fought alongside the Pakistani army! While they have fought against the Indian invaders!

Kashmiris want Pakistan, and I have Kashmiri roots!

Kashmiris are Pakistanis, not Indians!

Kashmiris are Muslims, not Hindus!

Long live Pakistan, long live Kashmir, we are the same people of the same nation and religion!

 

[pak-yes]

Strange Indians have killed 100,000 innocent civilians and still there is no Inquiry by the UN for genocide.

But then i guess the UN pay masters want to keep their eyes closed on crimes committed by India.