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Updated: April 5, 2015 09:29 IST
Reservations in apartments: middle class will suffer most, say builders - The Hindu


Representatives of the Builders’ Association of India and CREDAI feel that the new law is impractical in its present form. File photo
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The government’s new rule mandating reserving floor space in apartment complexs for Economically Weaker Section (EWS) families has drawn the ire of builders in the city, who fear it would burden the salaried middle class the most.

For they would have to bear the cost of cross-subsidy and pay more in a market where the unit cost per flat was already perceived to be high.

The new rule mandates that in any group housing project or apartments where the gross floor area is of and above 1,000 square metre, not less than 15 per cent of the gross floor area shall be earmarked for persons belonging to the EWS and Low Income Group and the reservation for both put together shall not be less than 15per cent of the gross floor area. However, all residential buildings with plot area below 1,000 square metre are exempted from such reservation of carpet area for EWS group.

Representatives of the Builders’ Association of India (BAI) and the Confederation of Real Estate Developers Association of India (CREDAI) told The Hindu that the new law was impractical in its present form.

Jagadish Babu, founder of Sankalp Group, chairman-elect of CREDAI, told The Hindu that land value in Mysuru was very high and the Floor Area Ratio (FAR) – the ratio of built area to the total land area – was low. As a result, the cost of projects in Mysuru was also high.

Cross-subsidation

“Units can be reserved only through cross-subsidisation and one class of end-users will have to be charged more. But the salaried class – who are increasingly turning to apartments due to steep increase in land cost – cannot bear the additional burden. So the solution is to amend the law and introduce reservation for large housing schemes, spread over say five acres or more, and also increase FAR,” said Mr. Babu.

Ravindra Bhat, State chairman of BAI, endorsed his views and said increase in FAR could help add more units to a project to help reduce the cost per unit. But with the high land value and low FAR in Mysuru, implementing the law will be difficult, said Mr. Bhat.

Though the law states that the reserved space would be exempted from the floor area calculates, which means the developer can add units proportionate to the reserved area, builders say this is insufficient to neutralise the cost of cross-subsidy.

The FAR in Mysuru compared to other tier 2 and 3 cities was low and hovered around 1.25 to 1.75 for regular buildings, while it varied from 1.5 to 2.25 for high-rise apartments.

There are also issues related to monthly maintenance fee, security fee and separate fee for common facilities like gym, club house, etc., which the law is silent on, said builders.
 
One of the most idiotic law ever heard. Constitution provides the right to education, but not the right to reserve a house based on caste.

Guess it will be trampled down in court.
 
One of the most idiotic law ever heard. Constitution provides the right to education, but not the right to reserve a house based on caste.

Guess it will be trampled down in court.

Economically Weaker Section (EWS) families


Ministry of Housing and Urban Poverty Alleviation
07-May, 2010 14:34 IST

Definition of Economically Weaker Section

The Minister of State in the Ministry of Urban Development Shri Saugata Roy has said that the Government has recently revised the income ceiling in respect of Economically Weaker Sections (EWS) from the earlier limit of ‘upto Rs. 3300’ to ‘upto Rs. 5000’.

In a written reply in the Lok Sabha today he said, the revised income ceiling is applicable to Interest Subsidy for Housing the Urban Poor Scheme (ISHUP) and Housing and Urban Development Corporation (HUDCO) loans. The upper ceiling of Rs. 3300/- per month for EWS will, however, continue to from the basis for calculation of affordability and subsidy, as also arriving at Equated Monthly Installments (EMIs) by the Primary Lending Institutions (PLIs) under the Scheme, within overall subsidy ceiling prescribed for ISHUP. This Ministry does not maintain data of households falling in different income segments.

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Reservation now will decide who your neibour is !! This reservation thing is now just out of hand ..Govt is so incompetent that they cant build good flats with all those reserved money ..This reservation drama now has gone too far ..It wont stop untill public start protesting in big numbers
 
Updated: April 5, 2015 09:29 IST
There are also issues related to monthly maintenance fee, security fee and separate fee for common facilities like gym, club house, etc., which the law is silent on, said builders.
Exactly! I'm paying a whopping Rs 5000/- per month as maintenance which includes swimming pools, club house, gym, cinema theater, conference halls, gen sets, security, intercom, water treatment plants, an 8 acre garden and so on. If the Economically Weaker Sections (EWS) are to be cross subsidized regarding maintenance costs, one would land up paying at least Rs 8000 - 10,000 per month! WTF? :undecided:
 
Exactly! I'm paying a whopping Rs 5000/- per month as maintenance which includes swimming pools, club house, gym, cinema theater, conference halls, gen sets, security, intercom, water treatment plants, an 8 acre garden and so on. If the Economically Weaker Sections (EWS) are to be cross subsidized regarding maintenance costs, one would land up paying at least Rs 8000 - 10,000 per month! WTF? :undecided:

5k as maintainace cost???? Damm u r rich!!!!:D

On topic: law will definitly be scrapped down in court... most idiotic law..
 
taking vote-bank politics to new level! Not that it's going to stand the scrutiny of law....then again Siddu & Karnataka congress may have done enough to poison the minds of underprivileged!
 
Congratulations Karnataka for Voting back Congress into Power :enjoy:

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Please do not blame Karnataka 100% for it. The votes got split when the seculars engineered the parting of Yeddi from BJP. Their vote bank stayed intact and congress got in only because of that.

Need to ask people like @Bang Galore who were rooting about the great Congress come back in Karnataka.
 
Two apartments in the same block! That screws me by Rs 10,000 per month. And the irony is I don't even stay there!! :angry::cry:

Whaaa?? Two apartments in same block.... Damn you supa rich baniya!!:mad:
Do you hav an address?? Extortion may be an option!!!:devil: :)
 
Please do not blame Karnataka 100% for it. The votes got split when the seculars engineered the parting of Yeddi from BJP. Their vote bank stayed intact and congress got in only because of that.

Need to ask people like @Bang Galore who were rooting about the great Congress come back in Karnataka.

That is true. But I would love to see his face when he has to subsidise his Neighbours flat with his money :D

The govt. instead of building homes for the poor is asking the citizens to do that instead and make them his neighbours :lol:

Not to sound elitist, but let me tell you a true story.

I had a Neighbour/friend who has purchased a flat in an apartment in Mumbai which had come up in an slum redevelopment project. As the saying goes, you can take a man out of the slum, but you cannot take the slum out of the man.

The slum dwellers who got the free apartments used to harass the new owners who actually had to pay for the flats. They used to throw garbage into the corridor :cheesy: ........ and since they were used to living with limited water supply, they were jealous that now everybody was getting continuous water supply, so they used to lock up the water supply and impose an artificial water shortage in the apartment :lol:

Needless to say, the children got exposed to a healthy doze of violence and swear words. His daughter used to get eve teased and hated staying there.

Now imagine this happening in Bangalore.
 
That is true. But I would love to see his face when he has to subsidise his Neighbours flat with his money :D

The govt. instead of building homes for the poor is asking the citizens to do that instead and make them his neighbours :lol:

Not to sound elitist, but let me tell you a true story.

I had a Neighbour/friend who has purchased a flat in an apartment in Mumbai which had come up in an slum redevelopment project. As the saying goes, you can take a man out of the slum, but you cannot take the slum out of the man.

The slum dwellers who got the free apartments used to harass the new owners who actually had to pay for the flats. They used to throw garbage into the corridor :cheesy: ........ and since they were used to living with limited water supply, they were jealous that now everybody was getting continuous water supply, so they used to lock up the water supply and impose an artificial water shortage in the apartment :lol:

Needless to say, the children got exposed to a healthy doze of violence and swear words. His daughter used to get eve teased and hated staying there.

Now imagine this happening in Bangalore.

There is very little slum in Bangalore compared to Mumbai. But I know the horror stories from Mumbai. Many of those people who were given flats for free sold it and moved back to slums with the profit they made. Never buy a flat in an area where slums abound. That is the only view you will get from the balcony and the smell from those areas are fit for Seculars only.
 
There is very little slum in Bangalore compared to Mumbai. But I know the horror stories from Mumbai. Many of those people who were given flats for free sold it and moved back to slums with the profit they made. Never buy a flat in an area where slums abound. That is the only view you will get from the balcony and the smell from those areas are fit for Seculars only.

That is one of the things I like about Bangalore. That absence of slum there. Same is true for Hyderabad.

Point is that class differentiation is a reality and you cannot wish it away. You cannot allow people from a different class into a upper class neighbourhood. It disturbs the natural equilibrium and creates unnecessary tensions. End result is, nobody is happy.

This new law is a recipe for disaster.
 
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