Kargil was in response to India’s role in creation of Bangladesh: Pervez Musharraf

[waz]

let me introduce with History 101...

1947----Pakistan invaded Kashmir..India counterattacked after Kashmir was annexed with India..if Nehru had a proper brain,we'd take entire kashmir within 3 months..

1965--battles started in Kashmir.we ended it at outskirts of Lahore..India gained more lands than Pakistan.

1971--Divison of Pakistan in two half.in western sector,India gained little lands.90000 Pakistani pow.

1999--Pakistan intruded into vacant posts and attacked Indian Army.India counterattacked and captured all of its posts.in International community,Pakistan got cornered and isolated.India lost some 500+ soldiers while Pakistan lost some 4000+ soldiers(Pakistan never clarified how many soldiers they lost.the figure is according to your prime minister Nawaz Shariff)

The Hindu : Over 4,000 soldiers killed in Kargil: Sharif

some win I must say.. now,get back to the topic...

These myths have been rebutted so many times on this forum.

1947- India was going no where, the same with Pakistan, and certainly not into Azad Kashmir after the lines had been stabilised. My forefathers fought in that war. Yes you held the Valley.

1965- No international organisation was allowed to mark out the territorial claims of both states. Neutral assessment was refused. Pakistan held lands in Indian Kashmir and East Punjab. India held land in Azad Kashmir and slightly in the side of the Pakistani border. India probably did hold more land, but not what is stated. The Tashkent deceleration stated Indian and Pakistani forces would pull back to their pre-conflict positions, pre-August lines, no later than February 25, 1966.

1971- Yes that did happen. As of those 90,000, less than half were combat troops.

1999- This is just incredible. The names of every solider who died from the Pakistani forces have been listed and their funerals conducted. Nawaz, the imbecile has NEVER uttered or supported this claim he made years ago.

Our sources state that 453 Pakistani soldiers died.

Here is a comprehensive list, from an Indian source. It is 473.

It is true that Pakistan has broadly not been able to meet objectives in various conflicts.

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As for the topic, I think mushy is just nuts for saying this. But hey. I respect the solider.

 

[danger007]

That is not my version, that is what happened in reality and is the truth if war. Dude.siskot was a graveyard of Indian tsnks as 150 of the were killed, three divisions of soldiers could not got more than 2to 3 miles, that is the worst record of Ny Army in the world ever since the modern was started.

It is said that this war at Sialkot was the next biggest battle of tanks after WW 2. Dude, know the truth and adopt the truth. Dude.

In Lahore your than Gen now standing for w,ections said in a speech in election rally that he did not want to take the Lahore, What a lie, he was stopped in his tracks and did not go more than few miles with such a force. But keeps lying to cover his failures.


HiUmiliation you say, what a spin, we killed 500 of you soldiers in return few Pakistanis martyred, but you should read the whole story of Kargil as how this capt sher khan went into you camps and stud thier like a lion aurrounded by your soldier wanting him to give up, he said brave soldier donot give and stated shooting, he mNy soldiers before he was martyred.


Talk facts of ground reality at that time dude.


You can't believe you say, why don't you try the truth. Dude. Read what happened on the ground dude. But than Indian like to spin matters in their favour and ignore the facts, so keep spinning. Dude.

It's the Pakistan who attacked K.. when maha raja mulling towards India. . you army refused to take bodies.. all the wars were started by Pakistan. . it's the fact.. back up your claims. . if you can ..

has he lost his marbles? to revenge east Pakistan, we should support Khalistan, Nagaland, Nexals, Tamils, Bengalis, Muslims, Kashmir, not send in our forces prematurely

from the A-Z will start kicking your @$$ whenever you come to support them... Dude we are not pakistanis.. It's Indians. . even naxals will turn against you.. none of them are against Indian nationality. .

 

[Stephen Cohen]

The spinning has some historical precedent.

The spinning wheel played an important role in the Freedom movement

It helped BOTH of us in getting Freedom

 

[GR!FF!N]

HiUmiliation you say, what a spin, we killed 500 of you soldiers in return few Pakistanis martyred, but you should read the whole story of Kargil as how this capt sher khan went into you camps and stud thier like a lion aurrounded by your soldier wanting him to give up, he said brave soldier donot give and stated shooting, he mNy soldiers before he was martyred.

that few is over 4000,according to Nawaz Sharif.. in another word,Humiliation..

The Hindu : Over 4,000 soldiers killed in Kargil: Sharif

 

[Gandhi follower]

I thought it was in response of Siachin's defeat.

 

[Kaniska]

has he lost his marbles? to revenge east Pakistan, we should support Khalistan, Nagaland, Nexals, Tamils, Bengalis, Muslims, Kashmir, not send in our forces prematurely

I will tell you another smart statergy for Pakistan...To win India, military power is not enough, understand dude...Rather than wasting time with Terrorist, stabilize your own nation...invest money on your people, eductaion and development work..Let the world know Pakistan about growing economic nation rather than a tourist place or training place for the terrorist...At this 21st centruy, world listens to India in diplomatic circle not because India is a military power, but at least India has better ecomic advantage for other nations that Pakistan...

So these terrorism and military these are tactics of 20th centruy...Learn how China has mastered and treated itself as equal with US...China is not fighting or shouting for a war with US..Rather they invested with their to develop it...So now world listens to them...Even the same policy is applicable for India too....

 

[alpha q]

That is not my version, that is what happened in reality and is the truth if war. Dude.siskot was a graveyard of Indian tsnks as 150 of the were killed, three divisions of soldiers could not got more than 2to 3 miles, that is the worst record of Ny Army in the world ever since the modern was started.

It is said that this war at Sialkot was the next biggest battle of tanks after WW 2. Dude, know the truth and adopt the truth. Dude.

In Lahore your than Gen now standing for w,ections said in a speech in election rally that he did not want to take the Lahore, What a lie, he was stopped in his tracks and did not go more than few miles with such a force. But keeps lying to cover his failures.


HiUmiliation you say, what a spin, we killed 500 of you soldiers in return few Pakistanis martyred, but you should read the whole story of Kargil as how this capt sher khan went into you camps and stud thier like a lion aurrounded by your soldier wanting him to give up, he said brave soldier donot give and stated shooting, he mNy soldiers before he was martyred.


Talk facts of ground reality at that time dude.


You can't believe you say, why don't you try the truth. Dude. Read what happened on the ground dude. But than Indian like to spin matters in their favour and ignore the facts, so keep spinning. Dude.

What ground realities? Wars are won on conpletion of objectives, even though you are incorrect about India lost more soldiers but if believe that it was India which completed its objectives in each and every war against Pak. By your logic allied forces lost world war against axis.