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Kamal defends govt’s GDP growth data

then ask your Bd members shut up posting lies about china everywhere

it's not in China's interests or policy to interfere on Bangladesh behalf, if you want to do it, do it yourself, what's stopping you? all western whites are behind you

If China has a true non-intervention policy it will refrain from voting on any security council proposal on Myanmar. The mere act of any vote by China by definition nullifies the non-intervention stance.
 
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If China has a true non-intervention policy it will refrain from voting on any security council proposal on Myanmar. The mere act of any vote by China by definition nullifies the non-intervention stance.

so you favor USA style intervention, invading countries like Iraq under false lie, stir up civil war/instability like in Syria, numerous assassination of foreign leaders like to south america and regime change under noble cause "democracy" "human rights"

we don't intervene neither does allow western whites 'intervene' in our neighbours

real-politic, you really believe westerns whites killing middle eastern civilian Muslims directly/indirectly on daily basis really care rohinya? they really give a shit?

they only use it as tool to weaken and damage China's interests, why should we allow that
 
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If China has a true non-intervention policy it will refrain from voting on any security council proposal on Myanmar. The mere act of any vote by China by definition nullifies the non-intervention stance.
What do you expect? Bangladesh simply don't have any leverage over China. And Bangladesh government knows it. China become largest FDI investor in Bangladesh, Largest trading partner as well. We need them not the other way around. Be realistic.
 
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What do you expect? Bangladesh simply don't have any leverage over China. And Bangladesh government knows it. China become largest FDI investor in Bangladesh, Largest trading partner as well. We need them not the other way around. Be realistic.

China is a good development partner to Bangladesh at least, but China will not sacrifice her interests for BD, nor we expect BD do the same for us, just like Hasina seeks balance between India, China, western world
that's everybody does the real politic
 
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China is a good development partner to Bangladesh at least, but China will not sacrifice her interests for BD, nor we expect BD do the same for us, just like Hasina seeks balance between India, China, western world
that's everybody does the real politic
Partnership and trade between BD and China will only keep increasing in coming years. No one in right mind in business community of BD and the ruling party either Hasina or any one else will want relationship dynamic to change with China.
 
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China is a good development partner to Bangladesh at least, but China will not sacrifice her interests for BD, nor we expect BD do the same for us, just like Hasina seeks balance between India, China, western world
that's everybody does the real politic
Yes I agree , and that's why although I am against the policy of china about Rohingya issue , but still consider China as the best and most tested and trusted ally of Bangladesh , and i always prefer China more than west ( I believe our authority also do the same). I also believe that China has the right to defend it's own interest , but just China could be a bit different , could remain neutral ,but that's another topic .
So i suggest Chinese peoples of PDF not to act as crazy and emotional like Bangladeshi aka all sub continent peoples . So stop abusing Bangladesh for the act of some pdf guys, at least no further abuse since they already calmed down ( as one of your compatriot admitted . So please don't let yourself down .Thank you .
 
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Yes I agree , and that's why although I am against the policy of china about Rohingya issue , but still consider China as the best and most tested ally of Bangladesh , and i always prefer China more than west ( I believe our authority also do the same). I also believe that China has the right to defend it's own interest , but just China could be a bit different , could remain neutral ,but that's another topic .
So i suggest Chinese peoples of PDF not to act as crazy and emotional like Bangladeshi aka all sub continent peoples . So stop abusing Bangladesh for the act of some pdf guys, at least no further abuse since they already calmed down ( as one of your compatriot admitted . So please don't let yourself down .Thank you .

Thank you, we don’t like the way mm doing things either, but unfortunately it got tangled with a bigger western anti-China containing China scheme
 
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Sure sure.....you dont even understand how IMF works regarding this in first place, just blindly believe your 10% percentile corruption hellhole "95% seats won fairly" "minister" lol:

https://www.imf.org/en/About/Factsheets/Sheets/2016/07/27/15/45/Standards-for-Data-Dissemination

Notice the glaring differences between the two standards. It comes from the relevance of the country in first place. One's motive is to assist (those that are puny, backwards and over-reliant on one thing)...the other one has big boy pants already on i.e:

SDDS subscription indicates that a country meets the test of “good statistical citizenship.”

Now you tell me why you have no debate anywhere on these issues given the clear fog you operate in? I mean is there even a debate allowed on something so simple as the 95% win rate for election LOL?

After all @bluesky :

https://www.dhakatribune.com/special-supplement/2018/05/22/what-have-we-done

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Bangladesh keeps trying to achieve first world dreams with third world policies. The reason why this is problematic, minus the obvious is that our goal is quantity not quality. For instance, we have more than 165 million people (quantity/easy slave labour) who are being marked literate based just on their ability to write their name, or when they added a “special provision” in the Child Marriage Act that will essentially allow a rapist to marry their underage survivor without her consent but just with her parents’ or a judge (let’s not even begin the conversation on women or their consent because these are too “foreign” a concept round these parts).

We have mastered the art of fudging the numbers. Scamming the system to meet our “development” goals, but to what end? In the end, the ridiculously large volume of humans living in a tiny New York apartment size country is going to spill over, either like chaos theory or like crabs in a bucket; your pick. Our “leaders” have figured it out; slaves to capitalism that’s eating the West alive right now, they’re paying workers $50 a month and pocketing the rest to buy homes in “better” countries for their children to live in.

If the national policy is to take the money and run, then there is nobody left to focus on reinvesting in the country, which is precisely why we have never returned to a post-war societal status. The real challenge is putting our money where our mouth is. For example the constitution that believes in equity, has never been taught at a primary level as a guiding principle of civil life.


(more at link) @Retired Troll @Indus Pakistan

Ring a bell?:

https://opinion.bdnews24.com/2017/12/18/where-did-the-benefits-of-economic-growth-disappear/

There is some disquiet among economists about the quality of data provided by Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics (BBS). No less a person than the Economic Adviser to the Prime Minister has expressed his dissatisfaction about the qualifications of the BBS staff and the quality of their work. These are very long standing problems, and yet, very little has been done to improve the quality of the services provided by BBS.

The government is perhaps more worried about the embarrassment an efficient BBS can do to its image with correct data than the harm an inefficient BBS can inflict on policy making and, the economy with incorrect data.

The current feeling of consternation originates largely from the fact that macroeconomic data, such as economic growth rate, is frequently not consistent with other data, such as credit, export and import etc. with which they are supposed to be correlated.

Significantly, the latter is not provided by BBS, but by other government organisations such as Bangladesh Bank, National Board of Revenue and Export Promotion Bureau.

Inflating the data!

(More at link)

And now SANEM pointing out more discrepancies mounting than before:

@GeraltofRivia @lonelyman @SBUS-CXK @Game.Invade @M.AsfandYar @Fledgingwings @Aung Zaya @Sugarcane @Major Sam

https://www.thedailystar.net/busine...th-asian-network-on-economic-modeling-1741114

sanem-web.jpg


Who is SANEM? Someone instrumentally involved with BBS data matrix in first place:

https://www.theigc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osmani-2017-Final-report.pdf

(pages 31 and 40)

You will only find this increase with time the more and more you hit the ceiling of current over reliance on a non-dynamic, brittle system (that is not even up for some debate in front of BD public) as I described:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bang...to-economic-trade.617775/page-8#post-11453823

So dont give me your Biman babu typical BS claim of "im a forced mongol descendant and proud of it" crap about "conservative" estimate and IMF "vetting" (they just give the guidelines to an LDC and hope you are credible enough to implement....which you increasingly show you are not).

There is no chance a country being "conservative" about GDP would only manage to invest this puny amount outside its borders compared to its GDP claim:

https://unctad.org/sections/dite_dir/docs/wir2018/wir18_fs_bd_en.pdf

Outward FDI stock of 362 million USD? 2 bucks per capita? Give me a break lol. Same performance as your walton "exports" in the end lol...make media article for 100 units on trial.....avoid discussing have 1000 and 10,000 orders been bulked/commited later...have they happened? Repeat, rinse, recycle and reuse this drama as needed lol.

....and then have a 0 -2 filing rate of patents at USPTO each year, junk credit rating, do about as well as sub saharan africa in science output, earn in lowest 10% percentile as immigrants in US and UK and be consistently ranked at utter bottom rung of corruption this long on top.

Then start facing energy consumption stagnancy this early too:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bang...rd-chartered-bank.617934/page-7#post-11450042

You have to prove things....not bray things. Capiche?

First step is to let some debate on it (on your TV)......but you won't....because you lot are fundamentally afraid about such things....its just more comfy to believe that there is both "democracy" and "95% seat win" operating at same time perfectly lol. The attitude extends for everything else....and the lesson will be proportionally harsh in the end.

In Bangladesh, something is growing internally - this thing will keep supporting higher GDP growth rate till 2050 (provided BAL stays in government with 95% or more mandate), Don't try to correlate it with exports and remittances, definitely not with imports as Bangladesh producing majority of things locally. And keep in mind $300b economy is just tip of iceberg as it's only 5% of Bangladesh's economy, 95% of Bangladesh's economy is off the books. If we include that 95% then Bangladesh have already surpassed India and by 2030 will surpass China.
 
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Sure sure.....you dont even understand how IMF works regarding this in first place, just blindly believe your 10% percentile corruption hellhole "95% seats won fairly" "minister" lol:

https://www.imf.org/en/About/Factsheets/Sheets/2016/07/27/15/45/Standards-for-Data-Dissemination

Notice the glaring differences between the two standards. It comes from the relevance of the country in first place. One's motive is to assist (those that are puny, backwards and over-reliant on one thing)...the other one has big boy pants already on i.e:

SDDS subscription indicates that a country meets the test of “good statistical citizenship.”

Now you tell me why you have no debate anywhere on these issues given the clear fog you operate in? I mean is there even a debate allowed on something so simple as the 95% win rate for election LOL?

After all @bluesky :

https://www.dhakatribune.com/special-supplement/2018/05/22/what-have-we-done

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Bangladesh keeps trying to achieve first world dreams with third world policies. The reason why this is problematic, minus the obvious is that our goal is quantity not quality. For instance, we have more than 165 million people (quantity/easy slave labour) who are being marked literate based just on their ability to write their name, or when they added a “special provision” in the Child Marriage Act that will essentially allow a rapist to marry their underage survivor without her consent but just with her parents’ or a judge (let’s not even begin the conversation on women or their consent because these are too “foreign” a concept round these parts).

We have mastered the art of fudging the numbers. Scamming the system to meet our “development” goals, but to what end? In the end, the ridiculously large volume of humans living in a tiny New York apartment size country is going to spill over, either like chaos theory or like crabs in a bucket; your pick. Our “leaders” have figured it out; slaves to capitalism that’s eating the West alive right now, they’re paying workers $50 a month and pocketing the rest to buy homes in “better” countries for their children to live in.

If the national policy is to take the money and run, then there is nobody left to focus on reinvesting in the country, which is precisely why we have never returned to a post-war societal status. The real challenge is putting our money where our mouth is. For example the constitution that believes in equity, has never been taught at a primary level as a guiding principle of civil life.


(more at link) @Retired Troll @Indus Pakistan

Ring a bell?:

https://opinion.bdnews24.com/2017/12/18/where-did-the-benefits-of-economic-growth-disappear/

There is some disquiet among economists about the quality of data provided by Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics (BBS). No less a person than the Economic Adviser to the Prime Minister has expressed his dissatisfaction about the qualifications of the BBS staff and the quality of their work. These are very long standing problems, and yet, very little has been done to improve the quality of the services provided by BBS.

The government is perhaps more worried about the embarrassment an efficient BBS can do to its image with correct data than the harm an inefficient BBS can inflict on policy making and, the economy with incorrect data.

The current feeling of consternation originates largely from the fact that macroeconomic data, such as economic growth rate, is frequently not consistent with other data, such as credit, export and import etc. with which they are supposed to be correlated.

Significantly, the latter is not provided by BBS, but by other government organisations such as Bangladesh Bank, National Board of Revenue and Export Promotion Bureau.

Inflating the data!

(More at link)

And now SANEM pointing out more discrepancies mounting than before:

@GeraltofRivia @lonelyman @SBUS-CXK @Game.Invade @M.AsfandYar @Fledgingwings @Aung Zaya @Sugarcane @Major Sam

https://www.thedailystar.net/busine...th-asian-network-on-economic-modeling-1741114

sanem-web.jpg


Who is SANEM? Someone instrumentally involved with BBS data matrix in first place:

https://www.theigc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osmani-2017-Final-report.pdf

(pages 31 and 40)

You will only find this increase with time the more and more you hit the ceiling of current over reliance on a non-dynamic, brittle system (that is not even up for some debate in front of BD public) as I described:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bang...to-economic-trade.617775/page-8#post-11453823

So dont give me your Biman babu typical BS claim of "im a forced mongol descendant and proud of it" crap about "conservative" estimate and IMF "vetting" (they just give the guidelines to an LDC and hope you are credible enough to implement....which you increasingly show you are not).

There is no chance a country being "conservative" about GDP would only manage to invest this puny amount outside its borders compared to its GDP claim:

https://unctad.org/sections/dite_dir/docs/wir2018/wir18_fs_bd_en.pdf

Outward FDI stock of 362 million USD? 2 bucks per capita? Give me a break lol. Same performance as your walton "exports" in the end lol...make media article for 100 units on trial.....avoid discussing have 1000 and 10,000 orders been bulked/commited later...have they happened? Repeat, rinse, recycle and reuse this drama as needed lol.

....and then have a 0 -2 filing rate of patents at USPTO each year, junk credit rating, do about as well as sub saharan africa in science output, earn in lowest 10% percentile as immigrants in US and UK and be consistently ranked at utter bottom rung of corruption this long on top.

Then start facing energy consumption stagnancy this early too:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bang...rd-chartered-bank.617934/page-7#post-11450042

You have to prove things....not bray things. Capiche?

First step is to let some debate on it (on your TV)......but you won't....because you lot are fundamentally afraid about such things....its just more comfy to believe that there is both "democracy" and "95% seat win" operating at same time perfectly lol. The attitude extends for everything else....and the lesson will be proportionally harsh in the end.
The numbers are so sky high confusing my head started to hurty......:wacko:
 
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In Bangladesh, something is growing internally - this thing will keep supporting higher GDP growth rate till 2050 (provided BAL stays in government with 95% or more mandate), Don't try to correlate it with exports and remittances, definitely not with imports as Bangladesh producing majority of things locally. And keep in mind $300b economy is just tip of iceberg as it's only 5% of Bangladesh's economy, 95% of Bangladesh's economy is off the books. If we include that 95% then Bangladesh have already surpassed India and by 2030 will surpass China.
You seems to be very bitter and broken heart about Bangladesh's economy. But it will not help in anyway. Right policy is needed for Pakistan.
 
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You seems to be very bitter and broken heart about Bangladesh's economy. But it will not help in anyway. Right policy is needed for Pakistan.

Lol ..... Bangladesh is insignificant country as far as Pakistan is concerned, previously it was bitching about 71 and never-ending demand of apology by bongs to get our intentions and now spamming forum 24/7 by bragging about economy and to be super power by 20xx syndrome. The fact is that other than couple of members who love to schlong big mouth Bongs for fun, nobody is interested in Bangladesh unless they start troll threads themselves or start Dick measuring contest themselves.
 
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You seems to be very bitter and broken heart about Bangladesh's economy. But it will not help in anyway. Right policy is needed for Pakistan.

If only these trolls knew that talking sh*t about Bangladesh won't stop the Pakistani hyper-privileged from stealing everyone's livelihood in Pakistan and depositing it in Dubai banks. Remittance and Defense production won't do much to lift up their economy. Nor do they seem to care, what will.

Lol ..... Bangladesh is insignificant country as far as Pakistan is concerned, previously it was bitching about 71 and never-ending demand of apology by bongs to get our intentions and now spamming forum 24/7 by bragging about economy and to be super power by 20xx syndrome. The fact is that other than couple of members who love to schlong big mouth Bongs for fun, nobody is interested in Bangladesh unless they start troll threads themselves or start Dick measuring contest themselves.

Whatever flips your skirt buddy. Chatter away. :lol:
 
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Lol ..... Bangladesh is insignificant country as far as Pakistan is concerned, previously it was bitching about 71 and never-ending demand of apology by bongs to get our intentions and now spamming forum 24/7 by bragging about economy and to be super power by 20xx syndrome. The fact is that other than couple of members who love to schlong big mouth Bongs for fun,nobody is interested in Bangladesh unless they start troll threads themselves or start Dick measuring contest themselves.
Yes, insignificant we bitch, demand, brag day and night, why do you care? Why do you take so much time to posts here day after day? Teasing, showing frustration of various things about Bangladesh. Seems like you do not belong to those ''nobody'' who are not interested in Bangladesh. You see, there are at least 25-30 current active members from Bangladesh now posting here. But you would not find them going and trolling in Pakistani economy or other sections. Why do you care so much about what we do here? Then claiming ''insignificant'', ''nobody interested''. Don't these sound hypocrite in your mouth?
 
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Yes, insignificant we bitch, demand, brag day and night, why do you care? Why do you take so much time to posts here day after day? Teasing, showing frustration of various things about Bangladesh. Seems like you do not belong to those ''nobody'' who are not interested in Bangladesh. You see, there are at least 25-30 current active members from Bangladesh now posting here. But you would not find them going and trolling in Pakistani economy or other sections. Why do you care so much about what we do here? Then claiming ''insignificant'', ''nobody interested''. Don't these sound hypocrite in your mouth?
বেচারা কইতেও পারে না, সইতেও পারে না! :D
 
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@lonelyman seems has become indeed lonely!!! :lol::lol::lol:

Lol ..... Bangladesh is insignificant country as far as Pakistan is concerned, previously it was bitching about 71 and never-ending demand of apology by bongs to get our intentions and now spamming forum 24/7 by bragging about economy and to be super power by 20xx syndrome. The fact is that other than couple of members who love to schlong big mouth Bongs for fun, nobody is interested in Bangladesh unless they start troll threads themselves or start Dick measuring contest themselves.

With 25% more population Pakistan has 15% lower GDP than Bangladesh brah!! When the gap is growing with time and will continue to be so with respect to Bangladesh, now solve the problem who is becoming insignificant gradually Bangladesh or Pakistan?
 
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