What's new

Pakistan Defence

araz said:
Syed Hussain.
Kindly stop your rude attitude. If you had opened your eyes and read the post i have quoted the price to you both of EJ200 and RD93. The difference is substantial. The point remains that Pakistan cannot afford the EJ200 series engine as the cost differential is not sustainable for the fleet substittution that PAF is looking for. So no need to remind me to do the maths for I have laready done it .
PAF designed the JFT for a specific purpose. It was not meant to go toe to toe with XYZ, but to establish aviation industry in Pakistan with a product which would be easy to integrate and absorb. It will be upgraded as per requirements and available finances. not on your whims.
PLAAF has just released J10 A for sale. To date there is no news that J10 B or C is up for sale. If you have any resource to suggest that please produce. The last we heard from Pshamim of pakdef.info was that the Chinese wanted 40 million per unit for 40 J10 A(20110-12) PAF offered or estimated the cost per plane to be 28 million. We now do not even have money to pay the 28 million much less establish infrastructure for an additional 4th generation fighter.
Funny that PAF pilots as per windjammer andHkhan of pakdef.info have reported flame out of J10 engines during the recent PAF and PLAAF exercises in China. No one has actually come out with how the JFT performed in comparison to J10 series. Your assumptions regarding Chinese avionics are unproven and need verification. Needless to say that once technologies mature PAF will incorporate these into JFT as it has earlier.. Perhaps you are unwaware of the recent 2 crashes of j10Bs which are curerently being investigated.
Whatever I have asked you I have asked you civilly, dont respond to a civil post with rudeness. If you dont want to respond to me please feel free to put me on your ignore list.
A
Click to expand...
Believe me dear, JFT's designing was even more "whimsical"(driven by situations) than my comments :) It's good only cuz we operate it. All the detail given as "designed by an Air Force" and a "Pakistani Jet" are nothing more than propaganda tactics and we both know it. All the states does so but people believe it to be propaganda as far as it's not related to their own state.
JF-17 has the same case as F-35 and that is "too big to fail" when talking in our financial parameters and the time, money(Pak) and reputation(CAC) that went into it. Around the world people try to make compensation measures for their mistakes but in here we come up with excuses to legitimize our mistakes. "It was not meant to go toe to toe with XYZ" but a cheap air craft that can be inducted in mass numbers and would be handy in just "keeping our pilots in the air"- are the kind of excuses now made due to the fact that in both of the first blocks(that means at least 100 units) it's good for nothing. To build the backbone of our air defense on something this much low end is only a fatal folly for a nation like us under threat of enemies many times stronger in both numbers and technology. And the "whims" that people make in here are the possible solutions that can turn this flying lemon into something that will be of some avail.
And plus that Auditor General of Pakistan reported a corruption of 500 million dollars in PAF during the time period of 2007 to 2014 and that was enough "finance" to support all the "whims" regarding JFT :tup:
And secondly dear, with all the due respect and civility along with apology for previous talk... I will say that "please, let's not even talk about J-10" cuz I am totally going to lose it here.
Back
Top Bottom