JF 17 Maximum Speed...1.6 Mach or 2.0 Mach ?

[Lucky Breeze]

what JF 17 lacks behind the F16s is the range and payload with current block 50-52. And if you talk about block 60,surely a hell of a difference in dog fight capability also. (BVR+IRST). If we induct AESA radar in JF 17 it will not remain a light weight aircraft, it will come up with structural changes better call it JF 19.

how Israel conduct its recent raid on Syria. Do they take the f35 delivery or they use their f16 l. I am actually interested in S400 defeat. Do Russians deploy any AWACS aircraft in Syria ?

 

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JF-17 block III will be mach 2 fighter.

Kyon us min NOS laga hona hay?

 

[Random Jan-e-mann]

Kyon us min NOS laga hona hay?

WS-13

 

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WS-13

Higher chances are Pakistan will stick to RD93 MA. Anyway even if they change the engine I don't think so it would make this much difference.

 

[Paksanity]

JF-17 top speed will remain Mach 1.6 no matter what the block, engine or composites. F-35 also has top speed of Mach 1.6 and will remain so. Go figure.

 

[Bratva]

JF-17 top speed will remain Mach 1.6 no matter what the block, engine or composites. F-35 also has top speed of Mach 1.6 and will remain so. Go figure.

Rightly said so. As the research papers on JF DSI proved. At mach 1.7, JF-17 DSI becomes unstable

 

[Paksanity]

Rightly said so. As the research papers on JF DSI proved. At mach 1.7, JF-17 DSI becomes unstable

That is the characteristic of every DSI designed fighter. For the same reason F-35 can't go above Mach 1.6 despite a very powerful engine and hell lot of composites.

 

[Dazzler]

Does it also mean increase in payload?


Might be those 8 F16s or might be more...No one knows yet but Pakistan has habit of surprising everyone at the right time

Block 2 can carry at least 700kg of more payload than block 1. Search the info pool for more info in the jf-17 section.

 

[Bratva]

Block 2 can carry at least 700kg of more payload than block 1. Search the info pool for more info in the jf-17 section.

If I'm not wrong. The current weigh loading is due to strengthening of wings after the crash of JF-17 and was the original weight target of JF-17 if they had made the wings strong enough from the start of Block 1. I dont know, was it cutting corners due to limited budget or just a not my job not my problem attitude that led to this fatal error in design go undetected so long until a crash woke them up

 

[Dazzler]

If I'm not wrong. The current weigh loading is due to strengthening of wings after the crash of JF-17 and was the original weight target of JF-17 if they had made the wings strong enough from the start of Block 1. I dont know, was it cutting corners due to limited budget or just a not my job not my problem attitude that led to this fatal error in design go undetected so long until a crash woke them up

That aircraft had its limits pushed. There is nothing wrong with wing structure of block-1. The need to strengthen wing roots was due to the need to carry more payload and fuel in the second block.

 

[Bratva]

That aircraft had its limits pushed. There is nothing wrong with wing structure of block-1. The need to strengthen wing roots was due to the need to carry more payload and fuel in the second block.

And the wing of one side was ripped off due to that. Despite of that, still a clumsy job that they didnt had the wing root strengthening from the get go and Only after the crash, they slowed down the production and strengthen the wings. It is on the record statement from one of JF-17 marketing or Project director interviews from last year. Before the start of Block 2 Production. that 33 block 1 wings had to be reconfigured.


2007: 5

2008: 3

2009: 4

2010: 16

2011: 8

2012: 6

2013: 8

2015: 16

It is not hard to infer from the stats, below and after the crash production rate and the 33 figure.

 

[Vapnope]

He is the CEO of Pakistan right now, don't you understand?

He cannot even dictate military of what rifle they should be using, leave alone the multi million dollar aircraft. Its the job of PAF to evaluate and finalize what they want and how they want.

 

[Foxtrot-Bravo]

He cannot even dictate military of what rifle they should be using, leave alone the multi million dollar aircraft. Its the job of PAF to evaluate and finalize what they want and how they want.

You don't know nothing dude, did I say anything about dictating the military? I was rather focusing on the deal he spoiled.

 

[Vapnope]

You don't know nothing dude, did I say anything about dictating the military? I was rather focusing on the deal he spoiled.

He simply cannot spoil a deal when military matters are being handled by COAS himself. Just because you hate NS doesn;t make him a culprit.

 

[Foxtrot-Bravo]

He simply cannot spoil a deal when military matters are being handled by COAS himself. Just because you hate NS doesn;t make him a culprit.

Nope, I don't hate him where he'll be right. Why don't you understand? We were having talks with Russia for some jets and helis ... NS visited US, they offered him F-16s as a confrontation like India is doing to Sirilanka in case of JF-17s, he showed them positivity and spoiled our deal with Russians. I think, I have made it pretty clear to you now.