Japanese style democracy for Asia

[key-CN]

An independent judicial system that is centered not only on constitutional law , but also one that focuses on the bill of rights regarding persons living in said country. This is imperative in that the judicial system will make sure that any legislative or executive promulgation must be constitutional. If not, then the Judicial System can declare it unconstitutional , and thus require amending. Thus there are checks and balances in government and no branch has unchecked powers.

How do we ensure the independence of the judicial system .Multi-party democracy are all take turns in power.If you want the ruling party is not ideal how to do.Japanese government cabinet by Prime Minister own choice?Japanese people how to check the Government？

 

[Muzits]

I think the japanese-style democracy might fit VN better.cause u two countries r more alike due to population and similar geographical features.
VN has the potential to become another japan if it become democratic.
most important thing is that,once VN go democracy,and become rich sumday,then the other asians will start to respect u guys.

 

[tranquilium]

Since Japan is culturally traced to Chinese traditional culture, would a democracy fashioned like the Japanese system work for China and Vietnam?
Chinese PDF posters want China to convert back to more traditional Confucian thinking and preserve its traditional culture. the Japanese model should fit perfectly for China? Japan became democratic after WWII without internal turmoil from monarchy rule. China can follow the same model with no internal bloodshed. what's your thoughts?

I don't think Vietnam is ready yet because we don't have manufacturing capability but China should.

1. While Japan can trace its culture root to China, historically two countries completely different political systems.
2. Modern day Chinese and Japanese government are in their current form due to unique characteristics of the nation and geo-politics. The two country has vastly different characteristics.
3. Aside from that troll Korlaps, no Chinese member here harps about reverting to tradition. There is a reason old traditions fading away to give space to new ones. Heck, the troll himself actually doesn't have a clue what actually Confucian tradition is.
4. Japanese style of government has nothing to do with Confucian school of thought.
5. Why would we want to follow the Japanese model anyway? It doesn't offer any particular advantage and is designed for a country that is very different from China.
6. Vietnamese is free to do with whatever they like with their own country. It is none of our business.

 

[Kolaps]

3. Aside from that troll Korlaps, no Chinese member here harps about reverting to tradition. There is a reason old traditions fading away to give space to new ones. Heck, the troll himself actually doesn't have a clue what actually Confucian tradition is.

Kolaps.

Most Chinese members here want the restoration and creation of 21st Confucianism.

What they don't want is Democracy, and as well as return back to Mao's Communism.

4. Japanese style of government has nothing to do with Confucian school of thought.

Japan government system is democracy...

But the culture of the people and government are Confucian.

You don't know about Confucianism, so you don't aware about the strong present of Confucianism in Japan government and culture.

You perhaps don't aware the very strong present about Confucianism in Democracy and Communism too.

Ever heard about European Confucians?

You had look down the world greatest ideology and philosophy. If you know the truth, you will be very proud of being Chinese.

5. Why would we want to follow the Japanese model anyway? It doesn't offer any particular advantage and is designed for a country that is very different from China.

Of course China don't need to follow Japan model, as China is a different country, with different situation and problems.

But we can learn from Japan, their success and their failure.

 

[vietnamese_sausage]

1. While Japan can trace its culture root to China, historically two countries completely different political systems.
2. Modern day Chinese and Japanese government are in their current form due to unique characteristics of the nation and geo-politics. The two country has vastly different characteristics.
3. Aside from that troll Korlaps, no Chinese member here harps about reverting to tradition. There is a reason old traditions fading away to give space to new ones. Heck, the troll himself actually doesn't have a clue what actually Confucian tradition is.
4. Japanese style of government has nothing to do with Confucian school of thought.
5. Why would we want to follow the Japanese model anyway? It doesn't offer any particular advantage and is designed for a country that is very different from China.
6. Vietnamese is free to do with whatever they like with their own country. It is none of our business.

the fat nuts in charge now will not allow vietnam to become democratic. for vcp to crumble i hate to say it but china can help us with that. if china temporarily stop trade with us the vcp will collapse, than democracy can be develop in vietnam.

i think vietnam is holding on to many traditional chinese customs nowaday more so than japan.

 

[Aepsilons]

How do we ensure the independence of the judicial system .Multi-party democracy are all take turns in power.If you want the ruling party is not ideal how to do.Japanese government cabinet by Prime Minister own choice?Japanese people how to check the Government？

Japan’s Supreme Court, also known as Saiko-Saibansho, is explicitly empowered to review the constitutionality of the Acts that are made by Japan’s Bicameral Legislature: the Diet and Junior Assembly. The Saiko-Saibansho exercises judicial review cases where there is genuine dispute of the laws. Even now, the Saiko Saibansho is conducting a judicial review of the Collective Self Defense initiative that had been agreed upon by the LDP and by the current administration in power. If the Supreme Court finds in its review that the initiative is unconstitutional, then it will demand the Executive (Current Administration) and the Legislature (The entire Diet and Junior Assembly) to repeal the initiative.

The Courts are considered the manifestation of the jurisprudence of His Imperial Majesty the Emperor. And thus any decisions by the Courts, especially by the highest court in the land, The Supreme Court, must and will be implemented by both the Executive and Legislative Branches.

I think the japanese-style democracy might fit VN better.cause u two countries r more alike due to population and similar geographical features.
VN has the potential to become another japan if it become democratic.
most important thing is that,once VN go democracy,and become rich sumday,then the other asians will start to respect u guys.

If you mean to say that Vietnam can avail of a parliamentary style of government, then yes. Given the social constructs that differentiate Japan from Vietnam, there won't be a complete utilization of the entire system. For one, Japan is a Constitutional Monarchy, wherein the Symbol and Power of Government stems from the Emperor: The powers of the Executive, Legislative Bodies and the Judicial Body are given by the Imperial House to rule in behalf of the Emperor Himself.

Due to this dichotomy, Vietnam most certainly cannot be a Constitutional Monarchy given the lack of a monarch in Vietnam. Tho it can avail from Japan's judicial system, our judicial review system, the construction and the organization of our legislative bodies, which is based on a Bicameral system. They can avail in utilizing our independent auditing segments of government that ensures there are no abuses of power by either of the three branches.

Vietnam could avail also of other forms of democracy; a federalist form, republican form or the parliamentary form.

 

[vietnamese_sausage]

Japan’s Supreme Court, also known as Saiko-Saibansho, is explicitly empowered to review the constitutionality of the Acts that are made by Japan’s Bicameral Legislature: the Diet and Junior Assembly. The Saiko-Saibansho exercises judicial review cases where there is genuine dispute of the laws. Even now, the Saiko Saibansho is conducting a judicial review of the Collective Self Defense initiative that had been agreed upon by the LDP and by the current administration in power. If the Supreme Court finds in its review that the initiative is unconstitutional, then it will demand the Executive (Current Administration) and the Legislature (The entire Diet and Junior Assembly) to repeal the initiative.

The Courts are considered the manifestation of the jurisprudence of His Imperial Majesty the Emperor. And thus any decisions by the Courts, especially by the highest court in the land, The Supreme Court, must and will be implemented by both the Executive and Legislative Branches.



If you mean to say that Vietnam can avail of a parliamentary style of government, then yes. Given the social constructs that differentiate Japan from Vietnam, there won't be a complete utilization of the entire system. For one, Japan is a Constitutional Monarchy, wherein the Symbol and Power of Government stems from the Emperor: The powers of the Executive, Legislative Bodies and the Judicial Body are given by the Imperial House to rule in behalf of the Emperor Himself.

Due to this dichotomy, Vietnam most certainly cannot be a Constitutional Monarchy given the lack of a monarch in Vietnam. Tho it can avail from Japan's judicial system, our judicial review system, the construction and the organization of our legislative bodies, which is based on a Bicameral system. They can avail in utilizing our independent auditing segments of government that ensures there are no abuses of power by either of the three branches.

Vietnam could avail also of other forms of democracy; a federalist form, republican form or the parliamentary form.

the issue is how and who will agree to enforce the judgement passed down by supreme court? i look at our thai neighbour and i'm afraid what will happen to vietnam. thailand is a good example where the military junta will use might to enforce their own rule and oust the elected.

 

[Aepsilons]

You don't know about Confucianism, so you don't aware about the strong present of Confucianism in Japan government and culture.

Quite strong, I would say. Thanks for pointing that out.

Japan government system is democracy...

A fusion of democracy and monarchy; ours is a Constitutional Monarchy. Styled after that of the British Form, tho with less pomp and circumstance.

the issue is how and who will agree to enforce the judgement passed down by supreme court? i look at our thai neighbour and i'm afraid what will happen to vietnam. thailand is a good example where the military junta will use might to enforce their own rule and oust the elected.

First and foremost, there should be a drafting of a Constitution of Vietnam; wherein there is clear and explicit division of powers: The Executive, Legislative and Judicial. There are many methods of enforcing a judicial decision. If it does nothing more than declare legal rights, as is in the case of a divorce decree or a declaratory judgment, no enforcement is needed. If a judgment orders a party to do or refrain from doing certain acts, as happens when an injunction is issued, the court itself takes the first step in enforcing the judgment by holding in contempt anyone who refuses to obey its order and sentencing them to jail. Enforcement is in the hands of the executive branch of government, acting through its law-enforcement and correctional authorities. So, if there is a judicial review that warrants a law or act as unconstitutional, the executive branch would and must enforce it because those are the responsibilities of the executive powers. Thus, it would suspend any promulgated acts. Given, there are independent law-enforcement authorities that would compel.

 

[Aepsilons]

thailand is a good example where the military junta will use might to enforce their own rule and oust the elected.

Thailand is not a good example of a mature constitutional monarchy. In fact, the actions of its military junta are unconstitutional since the military is not government, but is a servant of the government. Thailand is...unique, my friend. Nor should Vietnam follow Thailand's model of military intervention and coups.

 

[vietnamese_sausage]

Thailand is not a good example of a mature constitutional monarchy. In fact, the actions of its military junta are unconstitutional since the military is not government, but is a servant of the government. Thailand is...unique, my friend. Nor should Vietnam follow Thailand's model of military intervention and coups.

I know what you're saying from your previous post. i think vietnam will shoot itself in the foot if they went democracy now. the military junta has a great interest in being the ruler of vietnam.
i think vietnam will be in more chaos than thailand if we do it now. perhaps in 20 years time vietnam might be ready than.

 

[Aepsilons]

I know what you're saying from your previous post. i think vietnam will shoot itself in the foot if they went democracy now. the military junta has a great interest in being the ruler of vietnam.
i think vietnam will be in more chaos than thailand if we do it now. perhaps in 20 years time vietnam might be ready than.

There is no rush, buddy. Democracy should not be forced, but should be introduced gradually. My sincere well wishes for your native country and people.

 

[Muzits]

Japan’s Supreme Court, also known as Saiko-Saibansho, is explicitly empowered to review the constitutionality of the Acts that are made by Japan’s Bicameral Legislature: the Diet and Junior Assembly. The Saiko-Saibansho exercises judicial review cases where there is genuine dispute of the laws. Even now, the Saiko Saibansho is conducting a judicial review of the Collective Self Defense initiative that had been agreed upon by the LDP and by the current administration in power. If the Supreme Court finds in its review that the initiative is unconstitutional, then it will demand the Executive (Current Administration) and the Legislature (The entire Diet and Junior Assembly) to repeal the initiative.

The Courts are considered the manifestation of the jurisprudence of His Imperial Majesty the Emperor. And thus any decisions by the Courts, especially by the highest court in the land, The Supreme Court, must and will be implemented by both the Executive and Legislative Branches.



If you mean to say that Vietnam can avail of a parliamentary style of government, then yes. Given the social constructs that differentiate Japan from Vietnam, there won't be a complete utilization of the entire system. For one, Japan is a Constitutional Monarchy, wherein the Symbol and Power of Government stems from the Emperor: The powers of the Executive, Legislative Bodies and the Judicial Body are given by the Imperial House to rule in behalf of the Emperor Himself.

Due to this dichotomy, Vietnam most certainly cannot be a Constitutional Monarchy given the lack of a monarch in Vietnam. Tho it can avail from Japan's judicial system, our judicial review system, the construction and the organization of our legislative bodies, which is based on a Bicameral system. They can avail in utilizing our independent auditing segments of government that ensures there are no abuses of power by either of the three branches.

Vietnam could avail also of other forms of democracy; a federalist form, republican form or the parliamentary form.

你是日本人？！

 

[Aepsilons]

你是日本人？！

私は日本人です.

你是日本人？！

Anata no kokuseki wa doko desu ka?

 

[Götterdämmerung]

Japan is not democratic, has never been and probably will never be.

 

[Steve781]

Japan is not democratic, has never been and probably will never be.

It's been democratic for just as long as Germany has.