Japan recorded record low births, biggest ever population drop in 2021

[lcloo]

dalete

 

[beijingwalker]

Countries with the lowest fertility rates in 2020 as per United nations data.

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So Koreans will go disappear first

 

[REhorror]

Hmm, I wonder if the japanese has ever considered cloning.
I'd make a million clones of Ohtani the baseball player.

 

[Mista]

Japan will be gone not long from now. A perfect storm of a toxic work culture, lack of mental well being, societal attitudes trying to traverse theEast and West etc.

You can't reverse decades of a mindset. Japanese women now have no desire to have kids, form relationships etc. The docile Japanese lady is just a myth, most are fine being independent, they earn well end indulge in fun all day long. The men retreat into the world of work, and when they finish find niche pastimes they get lost in.
You can't do much to fix that.

Why do you think these issues are unique to Japan and are the underlying causes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate

Japan's TFR is around 1.3~1.4, low but still comparable to other high income countries like Italy, Spain, Canada, Portugal, Switzerland, Germany and Finland.

Not to mention these countries have immigrant population with higher TFRs and large share of newborns borne out of wedlock. Would you say Italy has intense toxic work culture? Finns lack mental well being? Spanish men only know how to work? Thai women not interested in relationships?

 

[waz]

Why do you think these issues are unique to Japan and are the underlying causes?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate

Japan's TFR is around 1.3~1.4, low but still comparable to other high income countries like Italy, Spain, Canada, Portugal, Switzerland, Germany and Finland.

Not to mention these countries have immigrant population with higher TFRs and large share of newborns borne out of wedlock. Would you say Italy has intense toxic work culture? Finns lack mental well being? Spanish men only know how to work?

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You need to perhaps visit those nations and see none of those issues are prevalent. The fact you took an East Asian culture and then made a crass comparison with European ones via birthrate shows how flawed your questioning is.
European states suffer social issues one of which being the abandoning of the nuclear family which was the bedrock of European growth.

 

[Mista]

You need to perhaps visit those nations and see none of those issues are prevalent. The fact you took an East Asian culture and then made a crass comparison with European ones via birthrate shows how flawed your questioning is.
European states suffer social issues one of which being the abandoning of the nuclear family which was the bedrock of European growth.

So if Japan has low TFR it's because women there are not interested in relationship and work culture is toxic, but if Europe has low TFR its because they abandoned the concept of nuclear family?

 

[waz]

So if Japan has low TFR it's because women there are not interested in relationship and work culture is toxic, but if Europe has low TFR its because they abandoned the concept of nuclear family?

The two reasons , not being interested in starting a family and leaving the nuclear family are mutually inclusive. Who do you think gives birth to the family?

 

[Mista]

mutually inclusive

You need to perhaps visit those nations and see none of those issues are prevalent.

 

[Indos]

This is the problem for both liberal and other non religious people.

For Muslim, marriage and raising kids is encouraged in both Quran and Hadith.

Just intermezo, both are Minang ethnic (West Sumatra) couple, but the wife is half Japanese.

Japanese gene is so strong, look on the kids

 

[REhorror]

This is the problem for both liberal and other non religious people.

For Muslim, marriage and raising kids is encouraged in both Quran and Hadith.

Just intermezo, both are Minang ethnic (West Sumatra) couple, but the wife is half Japanese.

Japanese gene is so strong, look on the kids

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I wonder if this is actually a problem with Buddhist people, since Buddhism doesn't actually encourage childbirth at all.
East Asia is majority Buddhism.

 

[waz]

Similar, linked not entirely the same.

 

[Viet]

Japan recorded record low births, biggest ever population drop in 2021​

There were 811,604 births last year, the fewest in health ministry data going back to 1899. Deaths climbed to 1,439,809, leading to an overall drop of 628,205 in the population

Rocky Swift, Reuters News
une 3, 2022
JAPANASIAECONOMY

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TOKYO - Japan recorded a record low number of births in 2021, prompting the biggest ever natural decline in the population, government data showed on Friday.

There were 811,604 births last year, the fewest in health ministry data going back to 1899. Deaths climbed to 1,439,809, leading to an overall drop of 628,205 in the population.

The overall fertility rate -- the average number of children born to a woman in her lifetime -- slid for a sixth straight year, to 1.3.

Japan has one of the fastest aging populations on earth, and the country's closed borders over the course of the COVID-19 pandemic have hastened the shrinkage of its workforce.

Japan recorded record low births, biggest ever population drop in 2021

There were 811,604 births last year, the fewest in health ministry data going back to 1899. Deaths climbed to 1,439,809, leading to an overall drop of 628,205 in the population

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We are ready to help. Japan is welcome to import more Vietnamese. we are I believe overpopulated. Instead of sushi we offer pho and spring rolls.
Win win.

 

[REhorror]

Japan is welcome to import more Vietnamese. Vietnam is overpopulated.

Vietnamese is already the biggest foreign group in Japan, and our TFR isn't so good either (1.9 last I check).

And there's actually way more japanese than vietnamese.

 

[beijingwalker]

Vietnamese is already the biggest foreign group in Japan, and our TFR isn't so good either (1.9 last I check).

And there's actually way more japanese than vietnamese.

Because of historical reasons , cultural and geographical proximity

Foreigners​

Looking at the population of foreign residents usually living in Japan by nationality, “China” was the largest with 667 thousand people (accounting for 27.8% of the total of the foreign residents), followed by “Korea” with 375 thousand (15.6%) and “Vietnam” with 321 thousand (13.4%).

 

[Viet]

Vietnamese is already the biggest foreign group in Japan, and our TFR isn't so good either (1.9 last I check).

And there's actually way more japanese than vietnamese.

Yes I know Vietnamese are on the rise in Japan. But there are towns or even cities in Japan without people. Japan will become a ghost land.