Japan protests China's ‘unilateral exploration activity’ near disputed sea gas field

[Suika]

Yes, Japan minister paid yearly respect to General Tojo and yamashita and denied the existence of nanjing massacre.

Did German minister pay respect to Adolf hitler or denied existence of austriez death camp?

Tojo does not equal Hitler. Where are Tojo's versions of Mein Kampf?

 

[Beast]

Tojo does not equal Hitler. Where are Tojo's versions of Mein Kampf?

Everybody can see the Japanese unrepentive behaviour of WWII. We most Asian are right to continue to hate Japanese.

Tojo is big monster who order the imperialism invasion of Asia. He cordone murder and the existence unit of barbaric unit like 731 in China. He felt rest of Asian are just slave for Japanese and Japanese themselves are superior.

Tojo is same as hitler.

 

[Suika]

Everybody can see the Japanese unrepentive behaviour of WWII. We most Asian are right to continue to hate Japanese.

Tojo is big monster who order the imperialism invasion of Asia. He cordone murder and the existence unit of barbaric unit like 731 in China. He felt rest of Asian are just slave for Japanese and Japanese themselves are superior.

Tojo is same as hitler.

Here it is again "Japan is evil end of story" with a complete lack of interest in historical comprehensive understanding.

 

[52051]

Here it is again "Japan is evil end of story" with a complete lack of interest in historical comprehensive understanding.

China can do whatever they want here, afterall the japan should not even exist as a country, most race/countries disappeared after losing such scale wars.

And of cause China want to take revenage over japan here, so just expect more and more provoation from China in the future, and no, I dont believe the US will risk a nuclear war with China over japan, at best they will drop a few more nukes on japan in the future war.

 

[Suika]

China can do whatever they want here, afterall the japan should not even exist as a country, most race/countries disappeared after losing such scale wars.

And of cause China want to take revenage over japan here, so just expect more and more provoation from China in the future, and no, I dont believe the US will risk a nuclear war with China over japan, at best they will drop a few more nukes on japan in the future war.

Foreign policy guided by mob principles. The pride of Han culture I guess. Don't expect that level of thinking to achieve victory over the US-Japan alliance.

 

[52051]

Foreign policy guided by mob principles. The pride of Han culture I guess. Don't expect that level of thinking to achieve victory over the US-Japan alliance.

First there is no US-japan alliance, it is merely stationed US occupication force there, note the difference, the US would have never risk their own homeland being nuked for japan, they may pretending to try fight a few skirimish and after some heavy loss they will retreat and hand japan for China to play with.

And secondly, lets wait and see.

 

[Suika]

First there is no US-japan alliance, it is merely stationed US occupication force there, note the difference, the US would have never risk their own homeland being nuked for japan, they may pretending to try fight a few skirimish and after some heavy loss they will retreat and hand japan for China to play with.

And secondly, lets wait and see.

The US has a major navy base in Japan: Yokosuka. A major US Marines base in Japan: Futenma. And a major air force base: Kadena. Among other bases like Iwakuni Air Station and Sasebo Naval base. A massive proportion of the US presence in the western Pacific relies on bases in Japan. Nuking Japan is nuking America's forward bases in the western Pacific region.

 

[52051]

The US has a major navy base in Japan: Yokosuka. A major US Marines base in Japan: Futenma. And a major air force base: Kadena. Among other bases like Iwakuni Air Station and Sasebo Naval base. A massive proportion of the US presence in the western Pacific relies on bases in Japan. Nuking Japan is nuking America's forward bases in the western Pacific region.

US has alot of navy base, but US have neither the will or the guts to fight a nuclear war with China for japan, they will retreat pretty quickly after losing most of their navy against China, if China were really want to remove the US navy in japan, they can do it within minutes without even using nukes, and the US know that as well, hats why the US retreat quickly in the short-lived showdown last year after Hague illegal ruling.

Anyway, its off-topic, so I stop here, but I bet we all know that, so no point to argue.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

I notice a bad habit on these forums where a person adds an "lol" or a "ROFL" when they really know better but just to give an impression of confidence. But of course there is genuine "lol" or "ROFL" as there is sometimes really baseless things said and posters should not feel shame for responding with lol or ROFL as we wouldn't want the forums to become dry of personality

China produced maps in the 1950s and the 1960s that showed the name Senkaku on them. They are considered as part of the Ryukyu islands. China put its claim on them in 1971 Historical reasons is just an empty excuse to push an expansionist agenda.

I bet you don't want to talk to me about it since we already have in the Japan Defense thread, and you lost. I'm rather impressed that the posts didn't get censored. That is why I think your "lol" was not genuine but just buffing up the chest to make an impression of confidence.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/japan-defence-forum.316803/page-128#post-9324545

I loled' to your pretentious government to nationalize the island because it's just a laughable gesture, China never accept that and to prove ourself that Japan don't hold any jurisdiction of the island, we send our coastal guard patrolling at the vicinity of the island.

Did China had diplomatic relation with Japan during 1950 and 60s? we didnt' even recognize Japan until 1970s, when we normalized our relation, Japanese and Chinese government had decide to push a side this issue and your government is well aware that we has no intention to cede that territory.

You Japanese are so funny when toke our island by force and dare to claim that we have expansionist agenda to claim it back, can you say the same about Kurile Islands that Japan also has the expansionist agenda to claim its back from Russia?. you can say that we have expansionist agenda to conquer Japan but it's not the case.

And Don't make me laugh I lost nothing to you, your argument just didn't make any sense.

The US has a major navy base in Japan: Yokosuka. A major US Marines base in Japan: Futenma. And a major air force base: Kadena. Among other bases like Iwakuni Air Station and Sasebo Naval base. A massive proportion of the US presence in the western Pacific relies on bases in Japan. Nuking Japan is nuking America's forward bases in the western Pacific region.

What different to be a vassal state when Japan was unconditional to allow so gigantic foreign military force in their soil? you must be very proud of your country.

 

[maximuswarrior]

I said at some stage!!..pussy cats with help and courage from wild boars....can definitely ignite a trigger that will lead the world to WW3 and the end of Communist!

And I know, contradicting oneself is the copyright of Chinese!

Talk about contradictions.

Good decision by China!

You should tell the Chinese they should not make the mistake by copying Japanese aggression.

Japan past aggression can't be China pretext as own aggression today. See Chinese 9 dash claim and threat of war against Vietnam.

There is no comparison here.

China is simply taking what is hers.

The US has a major navy base in Japan: Yokosuka. A major US Marines base in Japan: Futenma. And a major air force base: Kadena. Among other bases like Iwakuni Air Station and Sasebo Naval base. A massive proportion of the US presence in the western Pacific relies on bases in Japan. Nuking Japan is nuking America's forward bases in the western Pacific region.

You convey this with so much pride. How do you feel knowing that Japan is scattered with US bases? I heard that US soldiers routinely rape Japanese women from their bases. How do Japanese citizens react?

Secondly, if Japan and the US ever decide to attack China, there is always an option of retaliation. Why not keep this option open? All options should be kept on the table.

 

[Suika]

I loled' to your pretentious government to nationalize the island because it's just a laughable gesture, China never accept that and to prove ourself that Japan don't hold any jurisdiction of the island, we send our coastal guard patrolling at the vicinity of the island.

Did China had diplomatic relation with Japan during 1950 and 60s? we didnt' even recognize Japan until 1970s, when we normalized our relation, Japanese and Chinese government had decide to push a side this issue and your government is well aware that we has no intention to cede that territory.

You Japanese are so funny when toke our island by force and dare to claim that we have expansionist agenda to claim it back, can you say the same about Kurile Islands that Japan also has the expansionist agenda to claim its back from Russia?. you can say that we have expansionist agenda to conquer Japan but it's not the case.

And Don't make me laugh I lost nothing to you, your argument just didn't make any sense.



What different to be a vassal state when Japan was unconditional to allow so gigantic foreign military force in their soil? you must be very proud of your country.

You are ignoring many points made in the last time we talked.

ROK didn't have diplomatic relations with Japan until 1965, yet they were prompt in saying that Takeshima belongs to them. Diplomatic relations are not necessary for a country to say what belongs to them. Additionally, China in the 1950s and 1960s was saying that Formosa belonged to them but not the Senkaku islands. On mention of Formosa, the Qing and Ming were foreign occupiers that crushed rebellions many times on Formosa and they were not so bothered to let the troubled island go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin_Shuangwen_rebellion

With the Kuril islands, Soviet Union took them after Japan surrendered in WW2. Thus Japan and Russia never signed a peace treaty because of foul play by the Soviet Union. The difference here is that Japan never let go of its claim and rightfully so. Whereas in China case, they made a claim out of no where about 25 years after WW2 concluded.

Japan lacks oil, Japan lacks a large population size, Japan lacks being a bread basket. But despite that, Japan competed pretty well against other big countries like the US and the Soviet Union. What Japan does have is high quality human resources which in turn enable high technology. But in comparison to other big countries like the US who is plentiful in metals, energy, wide country, 3 times the population as Japan and protective oceans, and so on, that is reality. The US is the bigger country and no better way to counter China (who is also much larger with many more natural resources than Japan) than to allow the US to station forces in Japan. So good luck in kicking the US out of the Asia-Pacific as Japan will not only allow the US to continue stationing its forces in Japan, but will add onto the strength of the US with the Self-Defense Forces. And good luck in trying to break up the US-Japan alliance. Because as made evident by the Chinese nationalism on these boards and elsewhere on CCP media, being the American sphere will always be better than being in a CCP PRC sphere. 33 billion US dollars worth of Japanese ODAs going into China seems to not have been recognized as a positive gesture from Japan to China. I reckon y'all didn't even know about that.

 

[GS Zhou]

33 billion US dollars worth of Japanese ODAs going into China seems to not have been recognized as a positive gesture from Japan to China.

Japan's invasion to China brings us economy loss worth of $400 to 500 billion! And we even don't ask for a penny of war crime compensation!!

BTW, people in China are clearly aware of how the ODA works. If we purchase a piece of equipment from open market, it may cost us only 500k USD; but if we purchase it via the ODA program, sorry, 1 million USD required at least!!

 

[Suika]

Japan's invasion to China brings us economy loss worth of $400 to 500 billion! And we even don't ask for a penny of war crime compensation!!

BTW, people in China are clearly aware of how the ODA works. If we purchase a piece of equipment from open market, it may cost us only 500k USD; but if we purchase it via the ODA program, sorry, 1 million USD required at least!!

Yeah, imagine providing compensation to Mao's China during the cultural revolution. A total waste that would have been. The waiver of compensation was part of the establishment of diplomatic relations and the CCP did little to fight against Japan. And the Chinese civil war that came afterwards just layed more destruction. And Mao thanked Japan for beating up Chiang's forces so much.

Yeah, not appreciated as expected.

 

[GS Zhou]

Yeah, imagine providing compensation to Mao's China during the cultural revolution. A total waste that would have been. The waiver of compensation was part of the establishment of diplomatic relations and the CCP did little to fight against Japan. And the Chinese civil war that came afterwards just layed more destruction. And Mao thanked Japan for beating up Chiang's forces so much.

Yeah, not appreciated as expected.

We do NOT ask for the war crime compensation is already the best and strongest proof that we value our relationship with Japan, and we respect the normal Japanese people. But unfortunately, the Japanese that feeling proud of "we have many American military bases in the Japanese territory" does NOT belong to the group of normal Japanese people that we respect.

 

[Suika]

We do NOT ask for the war crime compensation is already the best and strongest proof that we value our relationship with Japan, and we respect the normal Japanese people. But unfortunately, the Japanese that feeling proud of "we have many American military bases in the Japanese territory" does NOT belong to the group of normal Japanese people that we respect.

We do NOT ask for the war crime compensation is already the best and strongest proof that we value our relationship with Japan, and we respect the normal Japanese people. But unfortunately, the Japanese that feeling proud of "we have many American military bases in the Japanese territory" does NOT belong to the group of normal Japanese people that we respect.

The Chinese communists slaughtered or brainwashed those that fought against Imperial Japan. The Chinese communists killed more Chinese than the Imperial Japanese. Thus the communists and those afterwards have no claim on damage committed by Japan. Japan's recognition from the KMT to the CCP is more than enough for the concerns of the CCP. Pardon the stark reply to what otherwise had a softer touch.