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Terror has become a keyword for Israel. After the Fatah movement in the West Bank and the Hamas movement in Gaza had found together in a government that supposedly only consists of technocrats, Israel could no longer use as grounds for refusing to cooperate that the Palestinians were divided into two camps. The new argument was that they could not cooperate with the United Palestinian front because it includes a so-called terrorist organization, Hamas.
So you get the abduction and murder of three Israeli youngsters. That represents a crime, that one must renounce and who must be punished, would probably all agree. Similarly, the subsequent revenge killing of a Palestinian youth as unacceptable. One can then imagine that the abduction and murder of three Israelis were an act that Hamas was behind? It's not only undocumented, it is highly unlikely. It therefore can not be registered as terrorist Hamas side. Other hand, appears exaggerated reactions from the Israeli side as pure terror against Palestinians.
There is no doubt that the Palestinians have nurtured terrorist movements, which to some extent has expired as has been fostered by the Fatah movement. Later also seen ubrytergrupper from Hamas who have been involved in terrorism.
The relationship between Jews and Palestinians were largely peaceful in the time before and after the First World War.
Do Israeli Jews kept their path clean in this respect?
There is no basis for claiming that Israeli Jews have introduced terror in the area and still doing this, regardless of the completely unreasonable reaction to the abduction and murder of three Israeli youngsters.
Start of terror
The relationship between Jews and Palestinians were largely peaceful in the time before and after the First World War. Haganah was founded in 1920 as a sort of home front for protection of Jewish kibbutzim. Haganah worked reasonably well with the British authorities, who were appointed to administer Palestine.
A radical splinter group from the Haganah, Irgun, was established in 1936 for offensive action, particularly against Arabs. In March 1937 the group carried out a series of terrorist attacks against Arab cafés, markets, buses, and trains. This meant that the British in 1939 decided to limit Jewish immigration for a period of five years. Then the area gain independence, which would mean the Arab rule. It was all the Jews against.
WW2
When World War 2 broke out, the Haganah decided to support Britain in the war against Hitler. 30,000 Jews from Palestine were enrolled in the English army.
At Bernadotte at the end of the war, had managed to save 30,000 people, including 10,000 Jews, [...] could not save him
The radical splinter group Irgun took up arms against British rule in Israel, killing two British officers on 26 August 1939. Six days later, the 2nd World War, and also breakaway group Irgun laid down their arms.
The most radical members of the Irgun established in 1940 group Lehi (Stern Gang) to continue the war against the British. As the leader Avraham Stern was murdered in 1942, took over the later Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir management.
In 1944, Lehi assassinated the British Minister for the Middle East in Cairo, Lord Moyne.
The assassination of the UN peace mediator
17 September 1948, UN peace mediator for Palestine, Count Folke Bernadotte of Sweden, machine-gunned by Lehi. Radical Jews were upset that Folke Bernadotte had proposed a sharing of Israel gave the Arabs Board of Jerusalem. Before he was killed, the proposal was modified so that Jerusalem would be under the control of the UN.
UN peace mediator Folke Bernadotte (left) with Moshe Sharett, Prime Minister of Israel from 1953 to 1955. Bernadotte was assassinated in 1948 by the Stern gang led by later Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir. It happened four months after the State of Israel was established. PHOTO: Wikimedia Commons
There is evidence that the three people who led Lehi, had a vote on whether Folke Bernadotte was going to be murdered. Two of the leaders, including Yitzhak Shamir, voted to kill him. At Bernadotte at the end of the war, had managed to save 30,000 people, including 10,000 Jews from concentration camps to safety in Sweden and Denmark in the Red Cross white buses, as he stood behind, could not save him, nor that he advocated that Jerusalem would be administered by the UN.
When Folke Bernadotte was killed, they tried Jewish leaders to pretend that the matter would be investigated and that those responsible would be punished. It was just for show. The son of Moshe Hillman, the Israeli officer was taken to follow the Folke Bernadotte in Israel, has a television interview with Al-Jazeera explained about this. Moshe Hillman had recognized the driver of the jeep one of the assassins. There he told his boss, Moshe Dayan, who was appointed to lead the investigation into the assassination. Moshe Dayan should then have said that the best thing was that no one had seen, nor heard! No one was prosecuted or punished for the murder of the UN envoy, despite the fact that it was known who had carried out the murder.
When the British folded in October 1948, there were 127 British officers and crews killed, most of the Irgun.
According to Wikipedia and other sources was Lehi activist Yehoshua Cohen who fired shots at the UN peace mediator Folke Bernadotte. He later founded the kibbutz Sde Boker in the Negev Desert. It was here that the first Prime Minister of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, decided to settle down when in 1963 he resigned as prime minister. He related a very close friendship to Yehoshua Cohen, and they went on daily walks together. I assume that Wikipedia and others know, can not have been unknown to David Ben-Gurion. Yehoshua Cohen had killed UN envoy, without being punished, was not preclude a close friendship could be developed between him and Israel's first prime minister.
The massacres
As the war drew to a close, took the Irgun, led by the later prime minister and Nobel Peace Prize winner Menachem Begin, again fight against the British administration in Palestine. 22 July 1948 triggered the Irgun a bomb in the headquarters of the British administration, the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. 91 people died, 46 were injured. When the British folded in October 1948, there were 127 British officers and crews killed, most of the Irgun.
Also the moderate parent organization Haganah took up armed struggle after the war was finished. In many cases they conducted massacres against defenseless civilians. 9.-11. April 1948 conducted Haganah, supported by the Irgun, a military operation known as the massacre in Deir Yassin. It is argued that a similar massacre was carried Dawaymeh October 28, 1948 by a division of the Haganah, under the leadership of Moshe Dayan.
Ariel Sharon, who later became Prime Minister of Israel, led in 1953 as a young officer an attack on the Arab village Quibya. The Israelis believed that people from the village had killed a Jewish woman and her two small children. The soldiers, under the command of Ariel Sharon, blew up a number of houses where there was once women and children, without ensuring that the houses were empty. 69 men, women and children, all civilians, were killed.
An investigation committee appointed by the Israeli government, held Ariel Sharon responsible for not having intervened and stopped the massacre in the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila in 1982. Ariel Sharon had angered so-called Phalangists, Christian Lebanese, a claim that there were Palestinian refugees had just murdered falangistlederen Bashir Gemayel. The massacre lasted over 32 hours. The Israeli forces, under the command of Ariel Sharon, had ensured that the camps were well lit and arranged for catering, ammunition and bulldozers for Phalangists. They went from room to room and shot and raped. The number of dead was the Israeli intelligence provided to between 700 and 800 Palistinsk Red Crescent reported deaths for 3300.
Israel has established a separate state agency for terrorism, in terms of killing people without trial.
Perhaps some think that it is not only important what happens, but also how relevant authorities occurs when the damage occurred. In so far as it was right that an official commission concluded that Ariel Sharon had to take responsibility for the massacre in Sabra and Shatila. The consequence was only that one had to resign as defense minister. He came back as Israeli prime minister.
Summary terms:
The first Prime Minister of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, was a close friend of Population Benadottes unpunished assassin.
The later Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir was a leader of the brutal terrorist group Lehi, who received hundreds of lives on his conscience.
The later prime minister Menachem Begin was the leader of the Irgun, responsible for numerous brutal acts of terrorism.
The later Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was held responsible for the massacre carried out in Quibya and for not having stopped the massacres in Sabra and Shatila.
The defense minister Moshe Dayan later can hardly be exempted from participating in planning and executing massacres against the Jewish populations. Moshe Dayan failed to take action on certain knowledge of who was involved in the murder he was investigating, killing of UN peace mediator Folke Bernadotte.
The Israeli army and the Haganah took part in the massacres of Arab settlements.
The waiter Ahmed Bouchiki, one marrokaner who was married to a norks woman was killed by Mossad in Lillehammer in 1973. They thought he was a terrorist, but was wrong.
PHOTO: Scanpix
Mossad
Was so this thing that just happened in a limited time?
The answer is no! Israel has established a separate state agency for terrorism, in terms of killing people without trial. I refer to the Mossad, which over the years has been involved in killings and other attacks worldwide.
It was this organization that was behind the only terrorist estimates from foreign power in Norway. I refer to the murder of the Moroccan waiter Ahmed Bouchikhi in Lillehammer in 1973. Such estimates are made worldwide each year. It may well be that more people have more to answer for than Ahmed Bouchikhi, who had never had anything to do with Fatah. Nevertheless, this kind of terror can not be accepted by civilized countries.
The moral platform
In this commentary, I have primarily taken me terror perpetrated by Israeli groups, some groups have strong ties to or are part of, the board of Israel.
It is clear that there have been exercised by Palestinian terrorist groups. These have sometimes also been part of the board of Palestinian areas.
I'm not supposed to say anything about who is the worst. I know really nothing about. I just mean to say that Israel does not have reason to place themselves on a higher moral platform than the Palestinians and refuse to talk to them.
Israels blodige terrorhistorie -Aftenbladet.no
So you get the abduction and murder of three Israeli youngsters. That represents a crime, that one must renounce and who must be punished, would probably all agree. Similarly, the subsequent revenge killing of a Palestinian youth as unacceptable. One can then imagine that the abduction and murder of three Israelis were an act that Hamas was behind? It's not only undocumented, it is highly unlikely. It therefore can not be registered as terrorist Hamas side. Other hand, appears exaggerated reactions from the Israeli side as pure terror against Palestinians.
There is no doubt that the Palestinians have nurtured terrorist movements, which to some extent has expired as has been fostered by the Fatah movement. Later also seen ubrytergrupper from Hamas who have been involved in terrorism.
The relationship between Jews and Palestinians were largely peaceful in the time before and after the First World War.
Do Israeli Jews kept their path clean in this respect?
There is no basis for claiming that Israeli Jews have introduced terror in the area and still doing this, regardless of the completely unreasonable reaction to the abduction and murder of three Israeli youngsters.
Start of terror
The relationship between Jews and Palestinians were largely peaceful in the time before and after the First World War. Haganah was founded in 1920 as a sort of home front for protection of Jewish kibbutzim. Haganah worked reasonably well with the British authorities, who were appointed to administer Palestine.
A radical splinter group from the Haganah, Irgun, was established in 1936 for offensive action, particularly against Arabs. In March 1937 the group carried out a series of terrorist attacks against Arab cafés, markets, buses, and trains. This meant that the British in 1939 decided to limit Jewish immigration for a period of five years. Then the area gain independence, which would mean the Arab rule. It was all the Jews against.
WW2
When World War 2 broke out, the Haganah decided to support Britain in the war against Hitler. 30,000 Jews from Palestine were enrolled in the English army.
At Bernadotte at the end of the war, had managed to save 30,000 people, including 10,000 Jews, [...] could not save him
The radical splinter group Irgun took up arms against British rule in Israel, killing two British officers on 26 August 1939. Six days later, the 2nd World War, and also breakaway group Irgun laid down their arms.
The most radical members of the Irgun established in 1940 group Lehi (Stern Gang) to continue the war against the British. As the leader Avraham Stern was murdered in 1942, took over the later Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir management.
In 1944, Lehi assassinated the British Minister for the Middle East in Cairo, Lord Moyne.
The assassination of the UN peace mediator
17 September 1948, UN peace mediator for Palestine, Count Folke Bernadotte of Sweden, machine-gunned by Lehi. Radical Jews were upset that Folke Bernadotte had proposed a sharing of Israel gave the Arabs Board of Jerusalem. Before he was killed, the proposal was modified so that Jerusalem would be under the control of the UN.
UN peace mediator Folke Bernadotte (left) with Moshe Sharett, Prime Minister of Israel from 1953 to 1955. Bernadotte was assassinated in 1948 by the Stern gang led by later Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir. It happened four months after the State of Israel was established. PHOTO: Wikimedia Commons
There is evidence that the three people who led Lehi, had a vote on whether Folke Bernadotte was going to be murdered. Two of the leaders, including Yitzhak Shamir, voted to kill him. At Bernadotte at the end of the war, had managed to save 30,000 people, including 10,000 Jews from concentration camps to safety in Sweden and Denmark in the Red Cross white buses, as he stood behind, could not save him, nor that he advocated that Jerusalem would be administered by the UN.
When Folke Bernadotte was killed, they tried Jewish leaders to pretend that the matter would be investigated and that those responsible would be punished. It was just for show. The son of Moshe Hillman, the Israeli officer was taken to follow the Folke Bernadotte in Israel, has a television interview with Al-Jazeera explained about this. Moshe Hillman had recognized the driver of the jeep one of the assassins. There he told his boss, Moshe Dayan, who was appointed to lead the investigation into the assassination. Moshe Dayan should then have said that the best thing was that no one had seen, nor heard! No one was prosecuted or punished for the murder of the UN envoy, despite the fact that it was known who had carried out the murder.
When the British folded in October 1948, there were 127 British officers and crews killed, most of the Irgun.
According to Wikipedia and other sources was Lehi activist Yehoshua Cohen who fired shots at the UN peace mediator Folke Bernadotte. He later founded the kibbutz Sde Boker in the Negev Desert. It was here that the first Prime Minister of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, decided to settle down when in 1963 he resigned as prime minister. He related a very close friendship to Yehoshua Cohen, and they went on daily walks together. I assume that Wikipedia and others know, can not have been unknown to David Ben-Gurion. Yehoshua Cohen had killed UN envoy, without being punished, was not preclude a close friendship could be developed between him and Israel's first prime minister.
The massacres
As the war drew to a close, took the Irgun, led by the later prime minister and Nobel Peace Prize winner Menachem Begin, again fight against the British administration in Palestine. 22 July 1948 triggered the Irgun a bomb in the headquarters of the British administration, the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. 91 people died, 46 were injured. When the British folded in October 1948, there were 127 British officers and crews killed, most of the Irgun.
Also the moderate parent organization Haganah took up armed struggle after the war was finished. In many cases they conducted massacres against defenseless civilians. 9.-11. April 1948 conducted Haganah, supported by the Irgun, a military operation known as the massacre in Deir Yassin. It is argued that a similar massacre was carried Dawaymeh October 28, 1948 by a division of the Haganah, under the leadership of Moshe Dayan.
Ariel Sharon, who later became Prime Minister of Israel, led in 1953 as a young officer an attack on the Arab village Quibya. The Israelis believed that people from the village had killed a Jewish woman and her two small children. The soldiers, under the command of Ariel Sharon, blew up a number of houses where there was once women and children, without ensuring that the houses were empty. 69 men, women and children, all civilians, were killed.
An investigation committee appointed by the Israeli government, held Ariel Sharon responsible for not having intervened and stopped the massacre in the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila in 1982. Ariel Sharon had angered so-called Phalangists, Christian Lebanese, a claim that there were Palestinian refugees had just murdered falangistlederen Bashir Gemayel. The massacre lasted over 32 hours. The Israeli forces, under the command of Ariel Sharon, had ensured that the camps were well lit and arranged for catering, ammunition and bulldozers for Phalangists. They went from room to room and shot and raped. The number of dead was the Israeli intelligence provided to between 700 and 800 Palistinsk Red Crescent reported deaths for 3300.
Israel has established a separate state agency for terrorism, in terms of killing people without trial.
Perhaps some think that it is not only important what happens, but also how relevant authorities occurs when the damage occurred. In so far as it was right that an official commission concluded that Ariel Sharon had to take responsibility for the massacre in Sabra and Shatila. The consequence was only that one had to resign as defense minister. He came back as Israeli prime minister.
Summary terms:
The first Prime Minister of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, was a close friend of Population Benadottes unpunished assassin.
The later Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir was a leader of the brutal terrorist group Lehi, who received hundreds of lives on his conscience.
The later prime minister Menachem Begin was the leader of the Irgun, responsible for numerous brutal acts of terrorism.
The later Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was held responsible for the massacre carried out in Quibya and for not having stopped the massacres in Sabra and Shatila.
The defense minister Moshe Dayan later can hardly be exempted from participating in planning and executing massacres against the Jewish populations. Moshe Dayan failed to take action on certain knowledge of who was involved in the murder he was investigating, killing of UN peace mediator Folke Bernadotte.
The Israeli army and the Haganah took part in the massacres of Arab settlements.
The waiter Ahmed Bouchiki, one marrokaner who was married to a norks woman was killed by Mossad in Lillehammer in 1973. They thought he was a terrorist, but was wrong.
PHOTO: Scanpix
Mossad
Was so this thing that just happened in a limited time?
The answer is no! Israel has established a separate state agency for terrorism, in terms of killing people without trial. I refer to the Mossad, which over the years has been involved in killings and other attacks worldwide.
It was this organization that was behind the only terrorist estimates from foreign power in Norway. I refer to the murder of the Moroccan waiter Ahmed Bouchikhi in Lillehammer in 1973. Such estimates are made worldwide each year. It may well be that more people have more to answer for than Ahmed Bouchikhi, who had never had anything to do with Fatah. Nevertheless, this kind of terror can not be accepted by civilized countries.
The moral platform
In this commentary, I have primarily taken me terror perpetrated by Israeli groups, some groups have strong ties to or are part of, the board of Israel.
It is clear that there have been exercised by Palestinian terrorist groups. These have sometimes also been part of the board of Palestinian areas.
I'm not supposed to say anything about who is the worst. I know really nothing about. I just mean to say that Israel does not have reason to place themselves on a higher moral platform than the Palestinians and refuse to talk to them.
Israels blodige terrorhistorie -Aftenbladet.no
