The best solution for Israel would have been to let Jordan keep most of the West Bank. The Hashemites have always been pro Israel, they just pretend otherwise to appeal to their Palestinian population and to other Arab countries
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The best solution for Israel would have been to let Jordan keep most of the West Bank. The Hashemites have always been pro Israel, they just pretend otherwise to appeal to their Palestinian population and to other Arab countries
Not now of course. But in 1967 it would have saved a lot of trouble.Yes, so pro-Israel that they went to war with Israel more than once. Jordan is a separate country. It's not Palestine. If Israel has a right to exist so has Palestine. The only solution is a two-state solution. Everyone knows it. But obviously it's easier said than done.
What's your opinion @500 ?
Not now of course. But in 1967 it would have saved a lot of trouble.
Similar things can be stated about the Jewd too. 70 years of finger pointing had lead middle east where it is.
If that was true you wouldn't have existed today, they had ample time and opportunities to genocide you. Go read some, and stop your childish lies.Arabs and pluralism ? Democracy? Doesnt go together.
If you knew anything about arab states outside of your media, you won't be saying this, actually Israel is perceived far worst than any arab state in the world's opinion. Can you imagine?Look at Israel and compare it to Arab and Muslim states, enough said.
Look at Israel and compare it to Arab and Muslim states, enough said.
The IMF and World Bank still classify oil producing states like Brunei, Qatar, UAE etc as developing countries because although they have a high average income their economies are too geared towards one sector and thus not fully industrialised.Arab states have higher per capita incomes than most of Europe. Qatar's per capita income is 2X that of the US. There is no comparison, unless you want to compare with Gaza.
The IMF and World Bank still classify oil producing states like Brunei, Qatar, UAE etc as developing countries because although they have a high average income their economies are too geared towards one sector and thus not fully industrialised.
The IMF and World Bank still classify oil producing states like Brunei, Qatar, UAE etc as developing countries because although they have a high average income their economies are too geared towards one sector and thus not fully industrialised.
These guys can buy IMF with their pocket change.
Wouldn't happen in a million years. The Israelis' will give up on democracy before they give up on being a Jewish State. The reason being, contrary to one poster's comment about the, "Jews repulsed by being with other people", the history has been the opposite of that; anti-Jewish pogroms, second class status in Christian and Muslim countries, the Holocaust, etc. The State of Israel is their insurance policy that Jews around the world will always have a Jewish state for them to flee to. They are never going to give that up.
nation state built on equality and fairness for all citizens, Jewish and Arabs alike
LOL:Arab states have higher per capita incomes than most of Europe. Qatar's per capita income is 2X that of the US. There is no comparison, unless you want to compare with Gaza.
Arab oil and gas money is a huge waste when it could be spent effectively on higher education, research and new inventions for the benefit of all humanity!These guys can buy IMF with their pocket change.
If GCC was democratic, all slave workers brought from abroad would have at least some human rights!I can't stop thinking how the GCC would have looked with democratic systems. It's a frightening thought for our enemies. We might live to see this anyway.
God bless oil / gas reserves and Western technology. Without it, Emiratis would still be desert dwellers.The average Emirati lives a 2-3 more prosperous life than the average Brit. That's what matters here and now.
Arabs own the West because they are filthy rich from petroleum money. Huge ownership doesn't mean you guys also excel in new discoveries of science and cutting-edge technology. Arabs on average lag behind in these fields because they have either no brains or do not want to use them like Jews / Westerners, Asians.We Arabs already own trillions of dollars in the West and Arabs own some of the most expensive real estate in the West, have very big shares in major companies, big shares in the stock markets, very influential lobbies and thus big political influence etc.
Islamic Antisemitism? Read this:All anti jewish pogroms have happened because of their behavior.
They already have their "own" country. Its called Kingdom of Jordan where 70 % of Palestinians live since before 1948.There is no need for any ballots as it is obvious that 99,9% of all Palestinians inside Palestine or abroad want their own country.
We Pakistanis need no Arab influence anymore. It has radicalized and destroyed Pakistani society enough already!Please keep him out. He would probably end up speaking about the "evil Arabs" yet again or something along those lines. The same old song in other words and accusing me of influencing the Pakistani public (LOL) in a wrong way.
Israel defined final borders during Camp David summit in year 2000, but Arafat ran away and started Second Intifada. Later Israel defined borders in 2008 with Olmert presenting Abbas with infamous "napkin map". He too ran away from the negotiations and never came back. Stop fooling around and pretending that you actually know something about this conflict:Defining the borders and all that follows with a two-state solution is the main problem here and no side really wants to move from their initial position.
Rubbish. Apart from few centuries after the advent of Islam, Jews never lived as first-class citizens in Muslim Caliphates:Actually I can only speak for the Arab world here but most Arabs and Jews lived peacefully with each other for the vast majority of the time and Jews were actually not second class citizens at all.
They already have Gaza and Jordan, poverty stricken failed states. West Bank would be no different if handed over but would become another terror base for Hamas.Anyway what you say is correct hence why there is no need to discuss something such as a one-state solution. The Palestinians are as eager to have their own country and rightfully so.
Correct and Holocaust during WW2 proved that they need independent IDF to secure Jewish lives.No matter how tolerant the treatment under Islam however, the Jews learned through many centuries that they could never fully depend on others for their security.
Arab Jews have decreased in number consistently since Israel's founding because of rampant antisemitsim and attack on Jews in Arab lands:Most Yemeni Jews now live in Israel.
True. Arabs couldn't tolerate a single Jewish state living alongside their own pan-Arabist Islamic states. Had they accepted Israel back in 1948 instead of waiting until 2002 (Arab Peace Initiative), things would have been quite different today.Basically the animosity between Arabs/Jews/Muslims first really kicked off during the foundation of Israel. I mean you only have to ask the few remaining Muslim and Jewish elders of Jerusalem etc. how they treated each other or how Arab Jews lived in Arab Muslim lands.
What do you mean? Elaborate?Similar things can be stated about the Jewd too. 70 years of finger pointing had lead middle east where it is.
Palestinian meant someone living in the historical region of Palestine. Jews too were "palestinians" before Israel was found:Who told you that Palestinians are a recent "invention"? No people are an "invention". It's just the names that change. By that logic 90% of all the current countries of today are inventions if they need to have a certain age before they become "legitimate".
Funny. 20 % of Israeli population is Arab (Palestinian) already, and is integral part of Israel since 1948:If the Israelis give up their state sanctioned policy of demographic engineering to maintain a jewish majority and Zionism while Falistni arabs too decide to give up seeking independance to integrate into a new nation state built on equality and fairness for all citizens, Jewish and Arabs alike. Can a country called Israelistine made up of these dynamics work under a national inegration program similar to the one started by Nelson Mandela? - How about just share Yerushelum rather than dividing it?
Zionism is what created Israel in the first place. If Jews discard Zionism, what's left of Israel? What would become of Pakistan if we discard Two-Nation theory?If both sides don't reconcile their differences, they will always be open to foreign interest minipulation. Two state solution is a failure and only way Israel can survive in the long term is by discarding Zionism to build a country with Arabs on the principles of pluralism.
Jewish nation is a historic reality. It was there thousands of years before anyone heard a thing called Arab or Islam:The whole goal of Israel is to establish a "Jewish nation", it is part of their identity, doctrine and pretty much everything that state is about.
They are free to move back to Jordan or Gaza. West Bank was Jordanian between 1948 - 1967.With all due respect then this is an insult against the Palestinian Arabs. Why should they not get their own country like almost all other peoples out there? In their own native lands moreover.
Yes, and its the main reason why Israel is not annexing West Bank and maintaining the status quo with force.If a one-state solution becomes a realty then the Arabs will become the majority. Arabs inside Israel already form 22% of the Israeli population and 60% of all Israeli Jews have Arab Jewish or partial Arab Jewish ancestry.
LOL. When Palestinians (Hamas) have accepted Israel as the Jewish state, come back to me. They do not recognize Israel or want their own state. They want to destroy Israel. Big difference!I stand with the Palestinian people and their right to self-determination. Almost all Arabs do if not all. Israel is a reality and the Palestinians have to accept that but that does not change the basic right of the Palestinian people to establish an Palestinian state.
Antisemitic babbling!They don't do international sports, no goyims can go to Israel. Their real goal is dominating the goyims and have a kind of paradise on earth
Islamic antisemite!There is one solution only to this problem take out Israel
How about a referendum if Iranians at large still support current Mullah regime?For years "at least 25 years" Iran has suggested that a referendom could be the best solution for this conflict.... All Palestinians outside and inside with all people who reside in Palestine participate and ballot for their government, any possible outcome should be respected by all countries .... it's a democratic solution which means no more war .