Yes you do,you can use Jordans territory,i dont see a problem there.
You should have used your Airforce to begin with.
Dont come with excuses,you could if you wanted.
Yes only two countries and the people living in those camps are happy to have patatos to eat,no heating nada.
The war in Syria is going on for almost 5 years now,three years before Yemen so not a good excuse.
Correct of you to admit that.
We should have either stayed out of it from the beginning or act accordingly from the beginning of the war but you know Erdogan.
I gues he needed the ok from his superiors(US/Russia/EU),nobody understands this operation and the way it is done(a couple of thousan FSA fighters and poorly organized Turkish forces,it doesnt make sense.
The operation was started because of the YPG on our 900km border,We needed to prevent them having a territory from the Iraqi border all the way to the Mediteranian Sea,we needed to create a big as possible safezone for the refugees(i gues).
I think that Erdogan made a deal with Putin,you get Aleppo and i get the aL-Bab Manbij region.
''I dont get in your way and you dont get in my way''.
Thats Erdogan for you,you never know whats next.
There is a problem here. A big one. Jordan would not allow such a thing to happen. Jordan is very fragile due to the enormous amount of Syrian refugees (almost 1/3 of the population - this equals almost 30 million Syrians in Turkey - imagine that for a second), already big number of previous refugees (Palestinians and Iraqis), a fragile economy overall and political tensions (Islamist parties - MB in particular being strong in Jordan). Any direct Jordanian involvement in Syria endangers Jordan as Syria and its allies would react directly as they neighbor Jordan and that would likely cause severe unrest in Jordan.
They became even more reserved after the Jordanian pilot was burned alive and ISIS threatened them openly. They of course retaliated by bombing ISIS strongholds for 1-2 weeks but afterwards they returned to their previous role of mostly keeping out. I honestly cannot blame them due to the reasons I mentioned. Their burden have already been way higher than any other involved party IMO. Along with small Lebanon which is in a similar situation as Jordan.
Jordan prevented, many times, KSA/GCC military aid (more sophisticated) from reaching the rebels. And when that occurs it also means that the US is against such a policy.
We could if not for the Yemen war and if there was political will and regional coordination. Or if people knew that Russia would have acted out of a sudden. All this lagged. In hindsight GCC/Turkey should have done something together with Jordan much, much earlier. I fully agree.
That's not the case from what I have seen/know of.
No, it is no excuse but in the 6 months that went from the Yemen war starting and Russia's interference, Turkey (Erdogan) could have done something as well. My only point. What stopped Erdogan from doing anything as a direct neighbor, having nothing else to do? This was before the coup, before PKK started gaining strength etc. Now it is much worse IMO.
I did so in my initial post.
I agree which is also why I cannot understand how a regional power like Turkey could have allowed YPG/ISIS to control most of the Turkish-Syrian border. Before that occurred it was mostly FSA aside from Northeastern Syria. That I will never understand to be honest with you. Acting now when Russia has entered and doing it like we have seen so far, is not going to change much, I am afraid of, although I wish you guys all the best and FSA/allied groups.
You are right and that's also what the rumors say. I don't understand such a move. Aleppo was/is much more important. Anyway shiit happens. Everyone has failed, even pro-Assad regimes if you look at the bigger picture. Syrians themselves too. It's a sad, sad situation that ordinary people like us cannot do much to change.
In short I expected much more from all of us let alone the superpowers (USA, Russia).
