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Israel shot down a Syria jet over Daraa which was attacking ISIS

There's no such a thing as Israeli airspace, Even Jewish funded Google company uses dashed line for Israel in Google Maps, Even Jews acknowledge this fact.
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This guy disagree with u:

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Then why do you blame trump for dumping the the nuclear agreement with Iran? Nothing will last forever including your dear Russia, so why fight for Russia? Your desperate attempt to cover up something so obvious only makes you look like a school boy. The bloody despot respects the peace with israel because the Zionist state has the right size stick. On the other hand, he barrel bombs those who oppose him in Syria because they don't have the appropriate weapons to defend themselves from this genocidal maniac.

Did I blame him? I don't recall that. Source?

Nothing lasts forever so why fight for Russia? I'm not Russian. I'm not American. I'm not Chinese. I'm Chinese Canadian immigrant. Why I fight for Russia? What makes you think I do?
 
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Even from name ISIS itself u can see that it wants Iraq and Sham, not entire world.

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Ironically Khamenai have exactly same Islamic State goal as ISIS:

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Do you mind?...

The ISIS terrorism in world with support of Iran:

Why is Iran in Syria?

- To support a revolutionary shia movement based on public(?), BUT Assad regime killed hundreds of thousands of Syrian citizens, leaving more as wounded, and the rest fled for other countries not to be killed by Assad. That means Iran is actually supporting a Puppet to keep the throne at the expense of killing Syrian public. A war crime and no relation to Islam.

- Hezbollah once was seen heroic in Muslim world, but now seen as Iranian proxy to protect ''ideology'' of the regime in Iran after Hezbollah involvement in Syria to protect the Puppet.

Is Iran(Assad) and ISIS DAESH relation true?

-Abu Ayyub(Abu Ayyub was a Brigadier General in the Iraqi Army under Saddam Hussein’s regime. More recently, he joined ISIS, acting as a military adviser.) went on to say that “Hajji Bakr(one of ISIS’s most powerful and influential operatives) made constant visits throughout Syria and coordinated directly with the Syrian regime, through Syrian intelligence agents named Moaz Safouk and his cousin Ziad Safouk, both of whom were prior acquaintances of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Hajji Bakr and Al-Bilawi met with several intelligence officers including Hossein Al-Khedr (an official in Syrian intelligence) and Ali Faramani (an Iranian officer who took over the ISIS file within Iranian intelligence at the end of 2014). Faramani was in contact with al-Baghdadi and provided him with information on the leaders of extremist organizations and factions in Syria, especially the commanders of the Nusra Front.”

- Assad released many ISIS members from prisons and never attacked them.For example, in Raqqa the Assad Regime selectively bombed the ''opposition'' but not ISIS. A journalist from new york times said ISIS members are not target for the Assad regime, in a news on washinton times ,A non-jihadist Syrian oppostion said ISIS is created by Iran.

- The US dep. of threasury claimed MOIS(Iranian Intel.) supported Al-qaeda with money and weapons, later(in 14 months) they became ISIS.

-Abu Ayyub said they got funds and explosives from Iran, also Iran helped them take over Mosul in 2014, in return Iran got revenur of oil trade. Haji Bakr was making the connection between Syria(Iran) with Assad intel members Moaz Saffok and his cousin.

- Abu Ayyub said Families of Al-qaeda(ISIS) still live in Iran, including Bin Laden family, some letters of Bin Laden give some detail between Al-Qaeda and Iran.

-Iranian genereal Hasan Salami is mastermind of ISIS military activities via Ali Farmani who planned and helped massive escape of convicts from Abu Gharib in Iraq.

- A meeting between Syrian intel member Khidr, Iranian intel member Ali Farman and Saffock, Haji Bakr from ISIS side in Syria in 2013.

-Abu Ayyub said Farmani explained him how Iran helped and planned escape of Abu Gharib prisoner, in return, Iran got oil trade revenue, and also export oil to Iran at very cheap price.

- 9/11 commision report reveals that Iran faciliated transit of Al-Qaeda member in-out of Afghanistan right before 9/11, and tried to conceal any evidences showing the co-operation with Al-Qaeda terrorists.

- An USB captured in Iraq reveals that ISIS members are sent by Assad to fight against USA army in Iraq.

- An ISIS defector, Abu Ammara, said many ISIS suiciders believed that they attacked Syrian Army positions, but in reality they were suicide-bombing Syrian oppositions. Also he said they could have taken over many locations from Syrian Army, but ordered to retreat.

- Some 500 terrorists were released from Assad and Maliki prisons, and they later fought for expansion of ISIS in the region.

- Among those 500 terrorists was Abu Mus’ab Al Souri, who was theoretician of Al-Qaeda and at the top of USA's most wanted list.

- Another one released by Assad was Abu Lukman in order to reinforce ISIS ranks against Syrian oppositions.

- Sayyed Qutb theoretically inspired Jihadists, therefore ISIS; However, the same man inspired Mullahs and their proxies, Islamic revolutionary guard corps and Hezbollah.

- IRGC and Hezbollah were established on the idea of Dynamic Islam, which is put forward by Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah, this guy wrote 2 books, “The Islamic Dynamism” (Al Harikiyya Al Islamiyya), and “Islam and the Logic of Power” (Al Islam Wa Mantiq Al Quwwa), these 2 books are simply copy of Sayyed Qutb. But with a difference they were re-written by Shiite understanding.

- With the book of Sayyed Qutb, Jihadists were born; however, The same book re-written for Shiite understanding let Hezbollah, IRGC, Kassam Suleimani, Hasan Abbasi like groups and people.

- Jihadits and Shiites with proxies are the sons of the same father from different mothers, and similarly they bring chaos, death, shame and most importantly hate for Islam.
 
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Do you mind?...

The ISIS terrorism in world with support of Iran:

Why is Iran in Syria?

- To support a revolutionary shia movement based on public(?), BUT Assad regime killed hundreds of thousands of Syrian citizens, leaving more as wounded, and the rest fled for other countries not to be killed by Assad. That means Iran is actually supporting a Puppet to keep the throne at the expense of killing Syrian public. A war crime and no relation to Islam.

- Hezbollah once was seen heroic in Muslim world, but now seen as Iranian proxy to protect ''ideology'' of the regime in Iran after Hezbollah involvement in Syria to protect the Puppet.

Is Iran(Assad) and ISIS DAESH relation true?

-Abu Ayyub(Abu Ayyub was a Brigadier General in the Iraqi Army under Saddam Hussein’s regime. More recently, he joined ISIS, acting as a military adviser.) went on to say that “Hajji Bakr(one of ISIS’s most powerful and influential operatives) made constant visits throughout Syria and coordinated directly with the Syrian regime, through Syrian intelligence agents named Moaz Safouk and his cousin Ziad Safouk, both of whom were prior acquaintances of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Hajji Bakr and Al-Bilawi met with several intelligence officers including Hossein Al-Khedr (an official in Syrian intelligence) and Ali Faramani (an Iranian officer who took over the ISIS file within Iranian intelligence at the end of 2014). Faramani was in contact with al-Baghdadi and provided him with information on the leaders of extremist organizations and factions in Syria, especially the commanders of the Nusra Front.”

- Assad released many ISIS members from prisons and never attacked them.For example, in Raqqa the Assad Regime selectively bombed the ''opposition'' but not ISIS. A journalist from new york times said ISIS members are not target for the Assad regime, in a news on washinton times ,A non-jihadist Syrian oppostion said ISIS is created by Iran.

- The US dep. of threasury claimed MOIS(Iranian Intel.) supported Al-qaeda with money and weapons, later(in 14 months) they became ISIS.

-Abu Ayyub said they got funds and explosives from Iran, also Iran helped them take over Mosul in 2014, in return Iran got revenur of oil trade. Haji Bakr was making the connection between Syria(Iran) with Assad intel members Moaz Saffok and his cousin.

- Abu Ayyub said Families of Al-qaeda(ISIS) still live in Iran, including Bin Laden family, some letters of Bin Laden give some detail between Al-Qaeda and Iran.

-Iranian genereal Hasan Salami is mastermind of ISIS military activities via Ali Farmani who planned and helped massive escape of convicts from Abu Gharib in Iraq.

- A meeting between Syrian intel member Khidr, Iranian intel member Ali Farman and Saffock, Haji Bakr from ISIS side in Syria in 2013.

-Abu Ayyub said Farmani explained him how Iran helped and planned escape of Abu Gharib prisoner, in return, Iran got oil trade revenue, and also export oil to Iran at very cheap price.

- 9/11 commision report reveals that Iran faciliated transit of Al-Qaeda member in-out of Afghanistan right before 9/11, and tried to conceal any evidences showing the co-operation with Al-Qaeda terrorists.

- An USB captured in Iraq reveals that ISIS members are sent by Assad to fight against USA army in Iraq.

- An ISIS defector, Abu Ammara, said many ISIS suiciders believed that they attacked Syrian Army positions, but in reality they were suicide-bombing Syrian oppositions. Also he said they could have taken over many locations from Syrian Army, but ordered to retreat.

- Some 500 terrorists were released from Assad and Maliki prisons, and they later fought for expansion of ISIS in the region.

- Among those 500 terrorists was Abu Mus’ab Al Souri, who was theoretician of Al-Qaeda and at the top of USA's most wanted list.

- Another one released by Assad was Abu Lukman in order to reinforce ISIS ranks against Syrian oppositions.

- Sayyed Qutb theoretically inspired Jihadists, therefore ISIS; However, the same man inspired Mullahs and their proxies, Islamic revolutionary guard corps and Hezbollah.

- IRGC and Hezbollah were established on the idea of Dynamic Islam, which is put forward by Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah, this guy wrote 2 books, “The Islamic Dynamism” (Al Harikiyya Al Islamiyya), and “Islam and the Logic of Power” (Al Islam Wa Mantiq Al Quwwa), these 2 books are simply copy of Sayyed Qutb. But with a difference they were re-written by Shiite understanding.

- With the book of Sayyed Qutb, Jihadists were born; however, The same book re-written for Shiite understanding let Hezbollah, IRGC, Kassam Suleimani, Hasan Abbasi like groups and people.

- Jihadits and Shiites with proxies are the sons of the same father from different mothers, and similarly they bring chaos, death, shame and most importantly hate for Islam.
BS story, every body knows ISIS members from which country come to Syria and sold their oil to which country also ISIS never had same border with Iran while they had borders with Israel and Turkey and got money and weapons as well as new solders from this borders maybe you think Iranian control your Turkey Intelligence.
Iran was and is only country which fight with ISIS from first day till now.
 
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Do you mind?...

The ISIS terrorism in world with support of Iran:

Why is Iran in Syria?

- To support a revolutionary shia movement based on public(?), BUT Assad regime killed hundreds of thousands of Syrian citizens, leaving more as wounded, and the rest fled for other countries not to be killed by Assad. That means Iran is actually supporting a Puppet to keep the throne at the expense of killing Syrian public. A war crime and no relation to Islam.

- Hezbollah once was seen heroic in Muslim world, but now seen as Iranian proxy to protect ''ideology'' of the regime in Iran after Hezbollah involvement in Syria to protect the Puppet.

Is Iran(Assad) and ISIS DAESH relation true?

-Abu Ayyub(Abu Ayyub was a Brigadier General in the Iraqi Army under Saddam Hussein’s regime. More recently, he joined ISIS, acting as a military adviser.) went on to say that “Hajji Bakr(one of ISIS’s most powerful and influential operatives) made constant visits throughout Syria and coordinated directly with the Syrian regime, through Syrian intelligence agents named Moaz Safouk and his cousin Ziad Safouk, both of whom were prior acquaintances of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Hajji Bakr and Al-Bilawi met with several intelligence officers including Hossein Al-Khedr (an official in Syrian intelligence) and Ali Faramani (an Iranian officer who took over the ISIS file within Iranian intelligence at the end of 2014). Faramani was in contact with al-Baghdadi and provided him with information on the leaders of extremist organizations and factions in Syria, especially the commanders of the Nusra Front.”

- Assad released many ISIS members from prisons and never attacked them.For example, in Raqqa the Assad Regime selectively bombed the ''opposition'' but not ISIS. A journalist from new york times said ISIS members are not target for the Assad regime, in a news on washinton times ,A non-jihadist Syrian oppostion said ISIS is created by Iran.

- The US dep. of threasury claimed MOIS(Iranian Intel.) supported Al-qaeda with money and weapons, later(in 14 months) they became ISIS.

-Abu Ayyub said they got funds and explosives from Iran, also Iran helped them take over Mosul in 2014, in return Iran got revenur of oil trade. Haji Bakr was making the connection between Syria(Iran) with Assad intel members Moaz Saffok and his cousin.

- Abu Ayyub said Families of Al-qaeda(ISIS) still live in Iran, including Bin Laden family, some letters of Bin Laden give some detail between Al-Qaeda and Iran.

-Iranian genereal Hasan Salami is mastermind of ISIS military activities via Ali Farmani who planned and helped massive escape of convicts from Abu Gharib in Iraq.

- A meeting between Syrian intel member Khidr, Iranian intel member Ali Farman and Saffock, Haji Bakr from ISIS side in Syria in 2013.

-Abu Ayyub said Farmani explained him how Iran helped and planned escape of Abu Gharib prisoner, in return, Iran got oil trade revenue, and also export oil to Iran at very cheap price.

- 9/11 commision report reveals that Iran faciliated transit of Al-Qaeda member in-out of Afghanistan right before 9/11, and tried to conceal any evidences showing the co-operation with Al-Qaeda terrorists.

- An USB captured in Iraq reveals that ISIS members are sent by Assad to fight against USA army in Iraq.

- An ISIS defector, Abu Ammara, said many ISIS suiciders believed that they attacked Syrian Army positions, but in reality they were suicide-bombing Syrian oppositions. Also he said they could have taken over many locations from Syrian Army, but ordered to retreat.

- Some 500 terrorists were released from Assad and Maliki prisons, and they later fought for expansion of ISIS in the region.

- Among those 500 terrorists was Abu Mus’ab Al Souri, who was theoretician of Al-Qaeda and at the top of USA's most wanted list.

- Another one released by Assad was Abu Lukman in order to reinforce ISIS ranks against Syrian oppositions.

- Sayyed Qutb theoretically inspired Jihadists, therefore ISIS; However, the same man inspired Mullahs and their proxies, Islamic revolutionary guard corps and Hezbollah.

- IRGC and Hezbollah were established on the idea of Dynamic Islam, which is put forward by Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah, this guy wrote 2 books, “The Islamic Dynamism” (Al Harikiyya Al Islamiyya), and “Islam and the Logic of Power” (Al Islam Wa Mantiq Al Quwwa), these 2 books are simply copy of Sayyed Qutb. But with a difference they were re-written by Shiite understanding.

- With the book of Sayyed Qutb, Jihadists were born; however, The same book re-written for Shiite understanding let Hezbollah, IRGC, Kassam Suleimani, Hasan Abbasi like groups and people.

- Jihadits and Shiites with proxies are the sons of the same father from different mothers, and similarly they bring chaos, death, shame and most importantly hate for Islam.
Of course without Assad and Iran ISIS would never grow that much even 1% not. This is Syria map prior ISIS:

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Asad was literally falling apart. And ISIS saved him.
 
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Of course without Assad and Iran ISIS would never grow that much even 1% not. This is Syria map prior ISIS:

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Asad was literally falling apart. And ISIS saved him.

There is no ifs and buts in history. You might as well say Nazis would have killed every Jew if Japan didn't attack America. If you don't like what happened in this universe, you are welcome to go a parallel universe where things turned out the way you liked it.

 
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BS story, every body knows ISIS members from which country come to Syria and sold their oil to which country also ISIS never had same border with Iran while they had borders with Israel and Turkey and got money and weapons as well as new solders from this borders maybe you think Iranian control your Turkey Intelligence.
Iran was and is only country which fight with ISIS from first day till now.

Iraq has fought ISIS from day 1, and they are the ones that has defeated ISIS, with major help from coalition Air Power and the Kurds. Iran has concentrated on defeating the democratic opposition in Syria, with minor efforts on defeating ISIS. The democratic opposition withered away within a few years of the start if the insurgency and was replaced by other islamists supported by Sunni states.
Tracing the origins of the ISIS Toyota trucks showed that they were almost exclusively bought in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, but not by the states directly.
ISIS soldiers are (were) recruited in Muslim communities all over the world predominantly in North Africa and a significant number from Europe.
Turkish journalists, investigating any alledged role of Turkey have been arrested for revealing state secrets, which is kinda proof of Turkeys involvement.

There's no such a thing as Israeli airspace, Even Jewish funded Google company uses dashed line for Israel in Google Maps, Even Jews acknowledge this fact.
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Useless argument.
Israel has annexed the Golan Heights, so for them it is is Israeli Air Space.
No other country has recognized the annexation, so for them it is occupied territory.
Israel and Syria are at war, so legally it does not matter if the aircraft is in Israeli, Syrian or disputed air space. The Syrians shot down an F-16 over Israel in February, which means that the gloves are off.
 
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Iraq has fought ISIS from day 1, and they are the ones that has defeated ISIS, with major help from coalition Air Power and the Kurds. Iran has concentrated on defeating the democratic opposition in Syria, with minor efforts on defeating ISIS. The democratic opposition withered away within a few years of the start if the insurgency and was replaced by other islamists supported by Sunni states.
Tracing the origins of the ISIS Toyota trucks showed that they were almost exclusively bought in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, but not by the states directly.
ISIS soldiers are (were) recruited in Muslim communities all over the world predominantly in North Africa and a significant number from Europe.
Turkish journalists, investigating any alledged role of Turkey have been arrested for revealing state secrets, which is kinda proof of Turkeys involvement.

I don't object to your post but can you please show me the "proof" of some Toyotas being bought by private individuals in KSA later to be "sent" to ISIS? I hope you realize that Toyotas are found in abundance in Iraq and that you don't need to import them from KSA, lol.

Likewise KSA and ISIS never shared direct borders with each other not to mention that that Saudi Arabian-Iraqi border has had the largest and most sophisticated security fence in the Middle East installed since almost 10 years ago initially and that the terrain is mostly lowland/hilly/desert and not too many places of habitations are found directly across the border.

The most modern barrier was built in early 2014. Long before Daesh conquered most of Western and Northern Iraq.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq–Saudi_Arabia_border

I am curious how those cars were transported to Daesh some 200-300 km to the nearest Daesh controlled city through mostly lowland/desert/hilly territory without anyone spotting each when KSA was part of the international coalition against the same Daesh and the US monitored the airspace closely along with others.

Do you mind?...

The ISIS terrorism in world with support of Iran:

Why is Iran in Syria?

- To support a revolutionary shia movement based on public(?), BUT Assad regime killed hundreds of thousands of Syrian citizens, leaving more as wounded, and the rest fled for other countries not to be killed by Assad. That means Iran is actually supporting a Puppet to keep the throne at the expense of killing Syrian public. A war crime and no relation to Islam.

- Hezbollah once was seen heroic in Muslim world, but now seen as Iranian proxy to protect ''ideology'' of the regime in Iran after Hezbollah involvement in Syria to protect the Puppet.

Is Iran(Assad) and ISIS DAESH relation true?

-Abu Ayyub(Abu Ayyub was a Brigadier General in the Iraqi Army under Saddam Hussein’s regime. More recently, he joined ISIS, acting as a military adviser.) went on to say that “Hajji Bakr(one of ISIS’s most powerful and influential operatives) made constant visits throughout Syria and coordinated directly with the Syrian regime, through Syrian intelligence agents named Moaz Safouk and his cousin Ziad Safouk, both of whom were prior acquaintances of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Hajji Bakr and Al-Bilawi met with several intelligence officers including Hossein Al-Khedr (an official in Syrian intelligence) and Ali Faramani (an Iranian officer who took over the ISIS file within Iranian intelligence at the end of 2014). Faramani was in contact with al-Baghdadi and provided him with information on the leaders of extremist organizations and factions in Syria, especially the commanders of the Nusra Front.”

- Assad released many ISIS members from prisons and never attacked them.For example, in Raqqa the Assad Regime selectively bombed the ''opposition'' but not ISIS. A journalist from new york times said ISIS members are not target for the Assad regime, in a news on washinton times ,A non-jihadist Syrian oppostion said ISIS is created by Iran.

- The US dep. of threasury claimed MOIS(Iranian Intel.) supported Al-qaeda with money and weapons, later(in 14 months) they became ISIS.

-Abu Ayyub said they got funds and explosives from Iran, also Iran helped them take over Mosul in 2014, in return Iran got revenur of oil trade. Haji Bakr was making the connection between Syria(Iran) with Assad intel members Moaz Saffok and his cousin.

- Abu Ayyub said Families of Al-qaeda(ISIS) still live in Iran, including Bin Laden family, some letters of Bin Laden give some detail between Al-Qaeda and Iran.

-Iranian genereal Hasan Salami is mastermind of ISIS military activities via Ali Farmani who planned and helped massive escape of convicts from Abu Gharib in Iraq.

- A meeting between Syrian intel member Khidr, Iranian intel member Ali Farman and Saffock, Haji Bakr from ISIS side in Syria in 2013.

-Abu Ayyub said Farmani explained him how Iran helped and planned escape of Abu Gharib prisoner, in return, Iran got oil trade revenue, and also export oil to Iran at very cheap price.

- 9/11 commision report reveals that Iran faciliated transit of Al-Qaeda member in-out of Afghanistan right before 9/11, and tried to conceal any evidences showing the co-operation with Al-Qaeda terrorists.

- An USB captured in Iraq reveals that ISIS members are sent by Assad to fight against USA army in Iraq.

- An ISIS defector, Abu Ammara, said many ISIS suiciders believed that they attacked Syrian Army positions, but in reality they were suicide-bombing Syrian oppositions. Also he said they could have taken over many locations from Syrian Army, but ordered to retreat.

- Some 500 terrorists were released from Assad and Maliki prisons, and they later fought for expansion of ISIS in the region.

- Among those 500 terrorists was Abu Mus’ab Al Souri, who was theoretician of Al-Qaeda and at the top of USA's most wanted list.

- Another one released by Assad was Abu Lukman in order to reinforce ISIS ranks against Syrian oppositions.

- Sayyed Qutb theoretically inspired Jihadists, therefore ISIS; However, the same man inspired Mullahs and their proxies, Islamic revolutionary guard corps and Hezbollah.

- IRGC and Hezbollah were established on the idea of Dynamic Islam, which is put forward by Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah, this guy wrote 2 books, “The Islamic Dynamism” (Al Harikiyya Al Islamiyya), and “Islam and the Logic of Power” (Al Islam Wa Mantiq Al Quwwa), these 2 books are simply copy of Sayyed Qutb. But with a difference they were re-written by Shiite understanding.

- With the book of Sayyed Qutb, Jihadists were born; however, The same book re-written for Shiite understanding let Hezbollah, IRGC, Kassam Suleimani, Hasan Abbasi like groups and people.

- Jihadits and Shiites with proxies are the sons of the same father from different mothers, and similarly they bring chaos, death, shame and most importantly hate for Islam.

Spot on. The facts mentioned above have long been well-known. Even more so after OBL's private diaries were published which showed the extensive ties between Al-Qaeda and Iran. Iran is the only country on the planet that willingly hosts wanted Al-Qaeda members. Everywhere else (Afghanistan and Pakistan) they are usually not protected by the establishment and roaming around in lawless areas.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cias-bin-laden-files-shed-new-light-on-qaeda-iran-ties-1509659871

This is not some made up bullshit that Iranian Mullah supporters will scream about. Those are factual statements. Evidenced (the most clear evidence) that the same Iran hosted internationally wanted Al-Qaeda members for years (and still do to this day).

Their entire existence depends on terrorism. Without their proxies (mostly braindead Arabs that deserve a bullet to their head for treason against their own countries, citizens, interests etc.), their regime would be worth nothing. Look at their outdated military. Aside from some missiles (not battle-proven), it's largely a joke.

An example of 3 imbeciles;


Which regime is this dependent on terrorist proxies? All their allies in Lebanon, Iraq, Syria and Yemen (Houthis) are terrorist proxies/cults. Installed in order to weaken the national armies of those countries and institutions in order to impose an "Iranian Mullah" (Wilayat al-Faqih) agenda. A shadow state within the state. Hezbollah is the best example of this. Certain proxies in Iraq another.

Luckily in Syria (most locals, including Al-Assad fanboys have no love for Iran), there is Russia and Al-Assad is strong (due to Ba'athi heritage) so Iranians are just useful idiots that the Al-Assad regime can exploit. Russia calls the shots though.

BTW, no doubt that there were some ISIS supporters/financiers in KSA but there can't have been many due to effective laws against money laundering. 99% of the income of Daesh derived from oil/gas/extortion/taxes by conquered populations. Financial support from abroad was/is negligible as per all reports.
 
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Either by mistake, or the pilots went rogue and decided to attack Israel. They crossed 2km into Israeli airspace and were dealt with like any other country would deal with the intrusion from an enemy state.

And yet Israel routinely carries out attacks in other countries.
 
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I don't object to your post but can you please show me the "proof" of some Toyotas being bought by private individuals in KSA later to be "sent" to ISIS? I hope you realize that Toyotas are found in abundance in Iraq and that you don't need to export them from KSA, lol.

Likewise KSA and ISIS never shared direct borders with each other not to mention that that Saudi Arabian-Iraqi border has had the largest fence in the Middle East installed since almost 10 years ago and that the terrain is mostly lowland/hilly/desert and not too many places of habitations are found directly across the border.

I am curious how those cars were transported to Daesh some 200-300 km to the nearest Daesh controlled city through mostly lowland/desert/hilly territory without anyone spotting each when KSA was part of the international coalition against the same Daesh and the US monitored the airspace closely along with others.



Spot on. The facts mentioned above have long been well-known. Even more so after OBL's private diaries were published which showed the extensive ties between Al-Qaeda and Iran. Iran is the only country on the planet that willingly hosts wanted Al-Qaeda members. Everywhere else (Afghanistan and Pakistan) they are usually not protected by the establishment and roaming around in lawless areas.

Information from Toyota:
Other sources shows that the US and U.K. shipped 50-100 Toyotas to FSA early on.
This numbers is dwarfed by the 60,000 Toyotas shipped from the Sunnis.

http://alwaght.com/en/News/71854/Toyota-List-Implicates-Arab-States-in-ISIS-Funding

Toyota List Implicates Arab States in ISIS Funding

ISIS Toyota mystery solved.
Alwaght- Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE and Jordan have purchased over 60,000 pickup trucks from Toyota Motor Corporation, according to a list of Middle East customers provided by the Japanese manufacturer. These vehicles have been delivered to ISIS terrorists in Syria and Iraq, proving once again these Arab states’ involvement in the sustenance of the terrorist group.

Videos and photos featuring hundreds of Toyota pickups being driven by ISIS terrorists have been circulated, raising questions as to how the terrorist organization got a hold of the four-wheel drives.

Toyota has a “strict policy to not sell vehicles to potential purchasers who may use or modify them for paramilitary or terrorist activities.” It does sell to customers in the west Asia but said last year that the company has procedure “place to protect supply chain integrity.”

After photos of hundreds of these pickups that were either seized or targeted by the Syrian army were sent to Toyota, the company decided to reveal a list of its main Middle East customers that have bought the vehicles.

A Saudi firm has purchased a sum of 22,500 trucks, Qatar 32,000, the UAE 11,650 and the Jordanian Army 4,500 vehicles from Toyota, the list shows.

A significant number of these vehicles have already reached the hands of ISIS terrorists in Syria and Iraq. Sources place the number of Toyota vehicles over 60,000.

This only confirms what has already been established, that some Arab states are funding and supporting terrorist groups in the region. However, instead of being prosecuted and held accountable for endorsing terrorism, world powers and organizations are turning a blind eye to this fact.

The situation is indeed sardonic as the same states that have planted and are nourishing the roots of terrorism are allegedly taking part in the operations to pluck them from Syrian and Iraqi territories.

The Iraqi and Syrian governments have launched operations to eradicate ISIS from their countries. Several other states have joined this task in an attempt to prevent the terrorist organization from further expanding in the region, or so it seems.

For regimes like Saudi Arabia and Turkey, good will is a long shot. Toyota’s customer list serves as evidence to Riyadh’s and three other states’ involvement with ISIS. In fact, it clearly shows that they are providing logistical support for the militants.

At the same time, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE and Jordan have joined the anti-ISIS coalition in Syria, supposedly taking part in airstrikes against militant positions.

Yet this is a smokescreen that aims to cover up the real role these countries are playing in the war on Syria. Simply put, these countries are on ISIS’s side.

Providing highly efficient Toyota trucks is only one way these states are helping ISIS maintain its presence in Syria and Iraq.

The Washington Institute has published a report, denying Saudi state-sponsored terrorism but acknowledged that funds are being transferred from the country to militant groups.

“Arab Gulf donors as a whole -- of which Saudis are believed to be the most charitable -- have funneled hundreds of millions of dollars to Syria in recent years, including to ISIS and other groups. There is support for ISIS in Saudi Arabia, and the group directly targets Saudis with fundraising campaigns, so Riyadh could do much more to limit private funding,” the report states.

In October, an email US Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton to her campaign chairman John Podesta in 2014 was leaked.

The email mentioned that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are both giving financial and logistical support to the ISIS and other extremist groups, according to a recent Wikileaks release.

“While this military/para-military operation is moving forward, we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region,” Clinton wrote.

In 2009, when Clinton was US secretary of state, she signed a memo that described Saudi Arabia as the world's largest source of funds for Islamist militant groups.

Three other Arab countries are listed as sources of militant money: Qatar, Kuwait and the UAE.

Clinton, however, is not the only US official who has revealed this fact. During a speech at Harvard University in 2014, US Vice President Joe Biden suggested that Turkey, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates had extended "billions of dollars and tens of thousands of tons of weapons" to Sunni fighters trying to oust Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. However, he was later forced to make an apology to appease the US allies.

Turkey is no stranger to this group of suppliers who are backing militant groups in Syria and Iraq. In fact, Ankara came under the limelight when the Russian General Staff said Turkey was delivering the al-Qaeda linked al-Nusra Front terrorist group with arms shipments across the border on a daily basis. Turkey is also responsible for the infiltration of militants to Syria through its border.

The list can go on. But for now, the Toyota list must suffice to implicate Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE and Jordan in the killing of the Syrian people at the hands of ISIS. By supporting and funding such a group for whatever political agendas they may have, these foreign sponsors are guilty of bloodshed in war-torn Syria and Iraq as it is obvious that terrorists could never sustain their activities without unyielding support from regional and international powers.
 
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Information from Toyota:
Other sources shows that the US and U.K. shipped 50-100 Toyotas to FSA early on.
This numbers is dwarfed by the 60,000 Toyotas shipped from the Sunnis.

http://alwaght.com/en/News/71854/Toyota-List-Implicates-Arab-States-in-ISIS-Funding

Toyota List Implicates Arab States in ISIS Funding

ISIS Toyota mystery solved.
Alwaght- Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE and Jordan have purchased over 60,000 pickup trucks from Toyota Motor Corporation, according to a list of Middle East customers provided by the Japanese manufacturer. These vehicles have been delivered to ISIS terrorists in Syria and Iraq, proving once again these Arab states’ involvement in the sustenance of the terrorist group.

Videos and photos featuring hundreds of Toyota pickups being driven by ISIS terrorists have been circulated, raising questions as to how the terrorist organization got a hold of the four-wheel drives.

Toyota has a “strict policy to not sell vehicles to potential purchasers who may use or modify them for paramilitary or terrorist activities.” It does sell to customers in the west Asia but said last year that the company has procedure “place to protect supply chain integrity.”

After photos of hundreds of these pickups that were either seized or targeted by the Syrian army were sent to Toyota, the company decided to reveal a list of its main Middle East customers that have bought the vehicles.

A Saudi firm has purchased a sum of 22,500 trucks, Qatar 32,000, the UAE 11,650 and the Jordanian Army 4,500 vehicles from Toyota, the list shows.

A significant number of these vehicles have already reached the hands of ISIS terrorists in Syria and Iraq. Sources place the number of Toyota vehicles over 60,000.

This only confirms what has already been established, that some Arab states are funding and supporting terrorist groups in the region. However, instead of being prosecuted and held accountable for endorsing terrorism, world powers and organizations are turning a blind eye to this fact.

The situation is indeed sardonic as the same states that have planted and are nourishing the roots of terrorism are allegedly taking part in the operations to pluck them from Syrian and Iraqi territories.

The Iraqi and Syrian governments have launched operations to eradicate ISIS from their countries. Several other states have joined this task in an attempt to prevent the terrorist organization from further expanding in the region, or so it seems.

For regimes like Saudi Arabia and Turkey, good will is a long shot. Toyota’s customer list serves as evidence to Riyadh’s and three other states’ involvement with ISIS. In fact, it clearly shows that they are providing logistical support for the militants.

At the same time, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE and Jordan have joined the anti-ISIS coalition in Syria, supposedly taking part in airstrikes against militant positions.

Yet this is a smokescreen that aims to cover up the real role these countries are playing in the war on Syria. Simply put, these countries are on ISIS’s side.

Providing highly efficient Toyota trucks is only one way these states are helping ISIS maintain its presence in Syria and Iraq.

The Washington Institute has published a report, denying Saudi state-sponsored terrorism but acknowledged that funds are being transferred from the country to militant groups.

“Arab Gulf donors as a whole -- of which Saudis are believed to be the most charitable -- have funneled hundreds of millions of dollars to Syria in recent years, including to ISIS and other groups. There is support for ISIS in Saudi Arabia, and the group directly targets Saudis with fundraising campaigns, so Riyadh could do much more to limit private funding,” the report states.

In October, an email US Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton to her campaign chairman John Podesta in 2014 was leaked.

The email mentioned that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are both giving financial and logistical support to the ISIS and other extremist groups, according to a recent Wikileaks release.

“While this military/para-military operation is moving forward, we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region,” Clinton wrote.

In 2009, when Clinton was US secretary of state, she signed a memo that described Saudi Arabia as the world's largest source of funds for Islamist militant groups.

Three other Arab countries are listed as sources of militant money: Qatar, Kuwait and the UAE.

Clinton, however, is not the only US official who has revealed this fact. During a speech at Harvard University in 2014, US Vice President Joe Biden suggested that Turkey, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates had extended "billions of dollars and tens of thousands of tons of weapons" to Sunni fighters trying to oust Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. However, he was later forced to make an apology to appease the US allies.

Turkey is no stranger to this group of suppliers who are backing militant groups in Syria and Iraq. In fact, Ankara came under the limelight when the Russian General Staff said Turkey was delivering the al-Qaeda linked al-Nusra Front terrorist group with arms shipments across the border on a daily basis. Turkey is also responsible for the infiltration of militants to Syria through its border.

The list can go on. But for now, the Toyota list must suffice to implicate Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE and Jordan in the killing of the Syrian people at the hands of ISIS. By supporting and funding such a group for whatever political agendas they may have, these foreign sponsors are guilty of bloodshed in war-torn Syria and Iraq as it is obvious that terrorists could never sustain their activities without unyielding support from regional and international powers.

Where can this supposed Toyota purchase list be found? Can you publish a source directly from Toyota that proofs this accusation?

Where is the proof of those Toyotas being given to Daesh and how did that occur? Many questions, no answers.

Al-Waqt is a Bahraini opposition paper (written outside of Bahrain) that is mostly anti-government and composed of Bahraini Shia Arab opposition. Maligning Western-allied Arab states (Jordan, UAE, Qatar, KSA and others) suits their agenda.

Until I see actual proof of this supposed list directly from the mouth of Toyota, I will believe it. I am not going to believe some Middle Eastern media with obvious biases.

Anyway a simple logistical question remains unanswered.

How did 22.000 (in the case of KSA apparently) out of 60.000 Toyota pickups (not exactly the smallest car) enter Iraq without being spotted when the geography of the KSA-Iraq border is as it is and the KSA-Iraq barrier having existed long before ISIS emerged?



The only option is that they were flown in by plane which I doubt was a possibility without being spotted even once. 22.000 cars being transported by planes (even the largest transport planes) would need a hell lot of flights.
 
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Well it clearly isn't if you can't fly over it without getting shot down
Su-22 infiltrated the Israeli airspace, a missile was sent against is as soon as it entered, followed it to Syria.

Slight correction, the missile wasn't fired as soon as it entered Israeli air space, time was taken to contact the Russians as per the protocols and confirm it was not a Russian air force plane before missiles were fired
 
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