Israel seeking to rebuild full diplomatic ties with Turkey

[Aspen]

Turkey is the most interesting country in the world. Never a dull day in Anatolian politics. The only people who love controversy more than Pakistanis are Turks.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Israel lobby blocked F-16 and F-35 sale to Turkey. Turkey must be friendly to Israel if Turkey wants buy these planes ever again.

 

[Trango Towers]

F16?

Israel lobby blocked F-16 and F-35 sale to Turkey. Turkey must be friendly to Israel if Turkey wants buy these planes ever again.

 

[damm1t]

F16?

Don't mind him. He sometimes show up with stupid posts. We are used to it.

On topic...

Erdoğan won't give a go for normalisation unless Israel;

1- Back off from claiming "Kudüs" as capital.
2- Stop illegal settlements,
3- Cut off ties with PKK.
4- Retreat from occupied Palestine lands,
5- Stop Gaza blockade.
.........
.........
.........
99- Stop using Jewish lobby against Turkey.
100- Stop claiming its neighbors' lands.


Shortly, it seems close to impossible.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Israel lobby blocked F-16 and F-35 sale to Turkey. Turkey must be friendly to Israel if Turkey wants buy these planes ever again.

Says the expert... You are known for acting like a troll, don't you realize that nobody ever takes you seriously?
When it comes to the F-35s; even Greece, Poland, Belgium and such others are planning to buy them until 2024; with that in mind, do you really think the F-35 deal for Turkey is over? We may lose our industrial participation, we may not get them in a short term but we will get them eventually before 2025. Do you really think this is the only time Turkish-American relations were bad? This is the nature of our relations. We don't get along at first, but there are mutual benefits for both countries and eventually they learn to get along in time. We will get them before 2025 at the worst case, trust me

 

[Trango Towers]

Says the expert... You are known for acting like a troll, don't you realize that nobody ever takes you seriously?
When it comes to the F-35s; even Greece, Poland, Belgium and such others are planning to buy them until 2024; with that in mind, do you really think the F-35 deal for Turkey is over? We may lose our industrial participation, we may not get them in a short term but we will get them eventually before 2025. Do you really think this is the only time Turkish-American relations were bad? This is the nature of our relationship. We don't get along at first, but there are mutual benefits for both countries and eventually they learn to get along in time. We will get them before 2025, trust me

I think it's best not to have them. With so many actors buying the same planes you enemies will have access to the same tech as you. They will knkw its strengths and weaknesses. TFX all the way for me and make it better than F35

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

I think it's best not to have them. With so many actors buying the same planes you enemies will have access to the same tech as you. They will knkw its strengths and weaknesses. TFX all the way for me and make it better than F35

So will we. Remember, the TF-X/MMU is 10 years away at best shot and we have never built an own fighter let alone a 5th gen stealth one. So, how do you expect us to just sit and watch while every other airforce in the region tries to improve their capabilities? Our infrastructure was built to have the F-35s and we've spent billions just to have the most advanced fighter jet ever built, and I'm not even talking about the decades long planning. Our industry has tens of billions of dollars worth industrial participation, do you really expect us to watch all of these slip away from our hands? With the F-35, we'd also have something to put on the TCG Anadolu LHD as the way it was planned to be from the very beginning, and this would improve our power projection capabilities by a lot.

 

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As long as they accept Turkey is the big daddy of the region, I don't much care.

 

[JackTheRipper]

Have you ever heard of Erdogan?

Yeah, He is only b@rk1ng D0g,,,
He is puppet of US,
His speeches are only Drama

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

We may lose our industrial participation, we may not get them in a short term but we will get them eventually before 2025. Do you really think this is the only time Turkish-American relations were bad? This is the nature of our relations. We don't get along at first, but there are mutual benefits for both countries and eventually they learn to get along in time. We will get them before 2025 at the worst case, trust me

And, with the Turkish codes downloaded for the critical functions...

 

[-SINAN-]

Delimitation deal is the key word.

That word is the reason why Turkey is in Libya, why Turkey acquired 3 drill ships, why Turkey introduced Mavi Vatan doctrine.

I have listened to ex-Admirals saying that we need to sign a delimitation deal with Israel after Libya.

 

[MMM-E]

Israel at a glance:

• Supporting PKK/YPG
• Cooperating with Greece and Greek Cyprus in East Med
• Training with Greeks in the Aegean, practicing scenarios where they jointly fight Turkey
  
• Supporting warlords Sisi and Hafter
• Recognized Armenian Genocide
• Sponsoring almost ALL anti-Turkey bills in the US Congress
• Routinely get involved in forex operations against Turkish Economy via Jews in London
• etc.

There's no way Turkey can consider working with a country that constantly acts like a sworn enemy.

what about our so-callled NATO allies such as France Germany ?
what about our so-callled muslim countries such as Egypt , KSA and the Uae ?

now all of them attack Turkey everywhere from Qatar to Libya and from Somalia to the Eastern Mediterranean
all of them support PKK/YPG against Turkey , all of them support warlord Haftar , Germany France recognized so-called Armenian Genocide and they cooperating with Greece and Greek Cyprus in East Med ,

even Palestine betrayed Turkey during the peace spring operation in Syria
even the Uae,Egypt,KSA,Jordan,Bahreyn,etc support Israel against Arabs in Palestine


We Turks almost fighting 2 superpowers ( the US/Russia ) + 1 UNSC Member ( France ) + 2 regional powers ( Israel and Iran ) + ASSAD , HAFTAR , SISI , KSA , The Uae , FETO , PKK/YPG in Qatar,Somali,Iraq,Syria,Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean

and Israel organized almost all of them against Turkey



in Europe and in The US , anti Erdogan/Turkey propaganda has began with DAVOS-2009 summit Turkey's Erdogan and Israel's Peres clash over Gaza , the Israeli air strikes and invasion of the Palestinian territory

why Turkey is against Israel ? because of Arabs in Palestine ... nothing else
since 2010 Israel/the US attacks Turkey to destroy ERDOGAN ... and Turkish Economy lost over $500 billion since 2013 .... still Turkish economy under attack

btw the US/Israel always made military coups in 1960,1971,1980,1997 and last one coup attempt in 2016 to control Turkey

Israel is not only Israel and Israel is more than an enemy
I voted YES for Turkey and Israel can be friends again. at least let's not be the enemy

 

[Beny Karachun]

Israel is responsible for turkish F35 issues

Turkey bought the S-400, it wasn't Israel that forced it to.

 

[Trango Towers]

Turkey bought the S-400, it wasn't Israel that forced it to.

we both know what had been happening.... you Israelis attacking unarmed Turkish ship and the concentration camps you have set up for the natives of the land of Palestine.
never forget your children their children and their children after will pay a heavy price for your cruelty. you deserve no sympathy or mercy. your time will come. be patient

 

[Beny Karachun]

Don't mind him. He sometimes show up with stupid posts. We are used to it.

On topic...

Erdoğan won't give a go for normalisation unless Israel;

1- Back off from claiming "Kudüs" as capital.
2- Stop illegal settlements,
3- Cut off ties with PKK.
4- Retreat from occupied Palestine lands,
5- Stop Gaza blockade.
.........
.........
.........
99- Stop using Jewish lobby against Turkey.
100- Stop claiming its neighbors' lands.


Shortly, it seems close to impossible.

None of these will happen except 3 which currently doesn't exist, PKK is a terrorist organization and we have no ties with it. Unlike Turkey and Hamas.

Both our countries have shared interests, and have things to gain. We were friends in the past, up until you betrayed us for Palestinians that you owe absolutely nothing to and gained nothing from.
Remember Israeli tourists in Turkey were a huge contribution to your economy. Remember when you had earthquakes Israel immediately sent help. Remember 669 unit saved Turkish sailors.

You are not some mortal enemy of ours, and Turkish and Israeli soldiers have not fought yet, and all grudges you have against Israel come from Palestinians that gave you nothing, never helped you, and that view you and every Muslim nation that recognizes Israel as traitors because you don't risk your own Turkish soldiers which have mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers, and make those soldiers fight against Israel.