Israel Endorsed Kurdish Independence

[MuhammedAli]

What did Turkey do for Islam? You cannot use religious card when it suits you. Other nations also have their interests. Rise of Kurdish nation is imminent now.

No one needs to do anything for Islam. Its not what I, We, You, Us, did about Islam. Its about what Muslims do for themselves. I cannot recall which Zionist president of Israel it was but it goes like this -: Jews were fighting for Israel and after their victory. Central government was established. A certain president to be was leading a bunch of Jews in fight against Arabs even after calls to cease hostilities. Israel sent its army to make them surrender or fight em ... the president to be ... fully armed, stocked and numbering 15'000 men under his belt, opposing force 4'000 from central government, surrendered to government solders without firing a single shot. Why? Why? Why? He could have been president if he didn't surrender. He surrendered because he thought it will weaken the Zionists against Arabs. Too much testostrone in Muslims, their bullocks produce too much of it. If they have to destroy entire Syria, or Iraq, or Pakistan, or decapitate every single living soul including suckling babies with fishing cord for their own presidency and rule, its fine, because I am worth it, Loriel. They will never realize the bigger picture, the greater good, the bigger agenda because the animals ave animal instincts and ME FIRST lives in all of them.

 

[HannibalBarca]

I love how ppl want to predict the future... here a hint...today story is not unique... open a geopolitical history during the crusades and u will be suprised how EVERYTHING happening right now is the same... and God gave u even the possibility to grasp the End... and yet ppl still dreaming...

Enjoy.

 

[Khagan1923]

The kurds are gonna rise just as syria became a democratic country, assad got jailed, russia is losing against the US, China is not gaining more and more on the US everyday, Iraq is a peaceful and stable american puppet, libya is a peaceful and stable country thanks to the US and also a american puppet. Oh wait all of these things never happened and aren't happening.

For a country whichs foreign policy has been a failure after WW2 the americans love to think they are gonna start winning any minute now. You have no buisness anymore in the ME and your pathetic attempt to stir up the kurds to destroy themselves in the hopes to have a little bit of influence left won't work.

Israel is shooting not even in its own foot but has the gun lined up against its tempel and slowly pulling the trigger, the US is laying besides its with a shotgun in its hand and its brain all over the floor.

 

[TheBlackCoat]

For whom and on which way?

Please elaborate.

Turkish support for Islam or Formation of Kurdistan?

No one needs to do anything for Islam. Its not what I, We, You, Us, did about Islam. Its about what Muslims do for themselves. I cannot recall which Zionist president of Israel it was but it goes like this -: Jews were fighting for Israel and after their victory. Central government was established. A certain president to be was leading a bunch of Jews in fight against Arabs even after calls to cease hostilities. Israel sent its army to make them surrender or fight em ... the president to be ... fully armed, stocked and numbering 15'000 men under his belt, opposing force 4'000 from central government, surrendered to government solders without firing a single shot. Why? Why? Why? He could have been president if he didn't surrender. He surrendered because he thought it will weaken the Zionists against Arabs. Too much testostrone in Muslims, their bullocks produce too much of it. If they have to destroy entire Syria, or Iraq, or Pakistan, or decapitate every single living soul including suckling babies with fishing cord for their own presidency and rule, its fine, because I am worth it, Loriel. They will never realize the bigger picture, the greater good, the bigger agenda because the animals ave animal instincts and ME FIRST lives in all of them.

Neither the Arabs nor the Turks nor the Persians care about Islam. Why should Kurds take that burden?

Kurdistan is the aspiration of the Kurdish people and nothing can stop it.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Neither the Arabs nor the Turks nor the Persians care about Islam. Why should Kurds take that burden?

Kurdistan is the aspiration of the Kurdish people and nothing can stop it.

First statement is wrong and the second is (half) wrong too

 

[kartal1]

Please elaborate.

Turkish support for Islam or Formation of Kurdistan?
Do you support PKK?



Neither the Arabs nor the Turks nor the Persians care about Islam. Why should Kurds take that burden?

Kurdistan is the aspiration of the Kurdish people and nothing can stop it.

Please elaborate.

Turkish support for Islam or Formation of Kurdistan?



Neither the Arabs nor the Turks nor the Persians care about Islam. Why should Kurds take that burden?

Kurdistan is the aspiration of the Kurdish people and nothing can stop it.

Do you support PKK?

 

[Bismarck]

Please elaborate.

Turkish support for Islam or Formation of Kurdistan?

"Rise of Kurdish nation is imminent now."

For the kurds of course, but whom else?

Neither the Arabs nor the Turks nor the Persians care about Islam. Why should Kurds take that burden?

You said that about Arabs, Turks or Persians? And why you think anyone wants kurds to take that burden?

Kurdistan is the aspiration of the Kurdish people and nothing can stop it.

Of which kurdish people? All of them? Most of them? Maybe a minority? As we can seen in Syria, everybody can be stopped.

 

[TheBlackCoat]

"Rise of Kurdish nation is imminent now."

For the kurds of course, but whom else?

Why should Kurds care about others when others do not care about Kurds?

Of which kurdish people? All of them? Most of them? Maybe a minority? As we can seen in Syria, everybody can be stopped.

Don't worry. The policy of dividing and ruling the Kurds will end soon.

Do you support PKK?

Do you support persecution of Kurds by Turkish government?

During Turkey's war for independence, Turkish leaders, promised Kurds a Turkish-Kurdish federated state in return for their assistance in the war. After independence was achieved, however, they ignored the bargain they had made.

Since 1924 Turkey forbade Kurdish schools, organizations and publications. Even the words "Kurd" and "Kurdistan" were outlawed, making any written or spoken acknowledgement of their existence illegal.

It is illegal for parents to give children Kurdish names; they must select Turkish names or face punishment.

Between 1925 and 1939, 1.5 million Kurds, a third of the population, were deported and massacred.

In 1930 the Turkish Minister of Justice declared, I won't hide my feelings. The Turk is the only lord, the only master of this country. Those who are not of pure Turkish origin will have only one right in Turkey: the right to be servants and slaves.

Turkey deliberately and consistently underdeveloped Kurdish provinces. From 1968 to 1975, 10.7 billion lira were invested in East Anatolia and the Southeast, areas densely populated by Kurds. This represents 2.4 percent of national investment compared to 31.1 percent in Marmara, 20.8 percent in the Agean region and 16.4 percent in the Mediterranean area.

Turkey is not content to persecute Kurds within its borders. In 1980 the Turkish Embassy in Denmark ordered the Union of Workers from Turkey to discontinue a Kurdish language course organized by the Copenhagen Evening School. The course was aimed at incorporating Kurdish in the home language teaching program in Danish, Norwegian, Swedish and West-German schools. The Embassy Councillor asked, "Are you not Turkish citizens? You must not teach Kurdish to Kurdish children."

 

[gangsta_rap]

Don't worry. The policy of dividing and ruling the Kurds will end soon.

If you look at how thing were since th 1980s, the policy of dividing Kurds has been something that the Kurds introduced themselves.Political divisions..sectarian divisions. An independent Kurdish state in Syria would be worlds apart from an independent Kurdish state in Iraq. Suppose tomorrow that happens, Rojava and Iraqi Kurdistan become free. They'll immediately turn into rivals

 

[TheBlackCoat]

If you look at how thing were since th 1980s, the policy of dividing Kurds has been something that the Kurds introduced themselves.Political divisions..sectarian divisions. An independent Kurdish state in Syria would be worlds apart from an independent Kurdish state in Iraq. Suppose tomorrow that happens, Rojava and Iraqi Kurdistan become free. They'll immediately turn into rivals

It will start with Iraq but Syrian and Turkish regions would join. The Iraq referendum provides the momentum. Even Europeans were fighting earlier but ended up with EU.

 

[gangsta_rap]

Syrian and Turkish regions would join

Why and how lol?
Look man, I know alt-right fashy heads like you are very infatuated with Kurds, but the reality is that they are divided to such a level that nothing sustainable will ever pop up. You need some reading up to do-big time.

Iraqi Kurdistan is governed by the KDP party, a somewhat conservative political dynasty.
Syria and Turkey have PUK party which is marxist and is based on Abdullah Ocalan's writings.
These two movements have visions of a Kurdish destiny that are worlds apart. No way in hell will they accept the other as the dominant. Hell we haven't even heard of a proper endorsement or advocacy of the referendum from PUK/YPG/PKK elements.

Its a lost cause for Kurds. They gained momentum because of ISIS' rampage but it wasn't enough for them to justify self determination.

 

[kartal1]

Why should Kurds care about others when others do not care about Kurds?



Don't worry. The policy of dividing and ruling the Kurds will end soon.



Do you support persecution of Kurds by Turkish government?

During Turkey's war for independence, Turkish leaders, promised Kurds a Turkish-Kurdish federated state in return for their assistance in the war. After independence was achieved, however, they ignored the bargain they had made.

Since 1924 Turkey forbade Kurdish schools, organizations and publications. Even the words "Kurd" and "Kurdistan" were outlawed, making any written or spoken acknowledgement of their existence illegal.

It is illegal for parents to give children Kurdish names; they must select Turkish names or face punishment.

Between 1925 and 1939, 1.5 million Kurds, a third of the population, were deported and massacred.

In 1930 the Turkish Minister of Justice declared, I won't hide my feelings. The Turk is the only lord, the only master of this country. Those who are not of pure Turkish origin will have only one right in Turkey: the right to be servants and slaves.

Turkey deliberately and consistently underdeveloped Kurdish provinces. From 1968 to 1975, 10.7 billion lira were invested in East Anatolia and the Southeast, areas densely populated by Kurds. This represents 2.4 percent of national investment compared to 31.1 percent in Marmara, 20.8 percent in the Agean region and 16.4 percent in the Mediterranean area.

Turkey is not content to persecute Kurds within its borders. In 1980 the Turkish Embassy in Denmark ordered the Union of Workers from Turkey to discontinue a Kurdish language course organized by the Copenhagen Evening School. The course was aimed at incorporating Kurdish in the home language teaching program in Danish, Norwegian, Swedish and West-German schools. The Embassy Councillor asked, "Are you not Turkish citizens? You must not teach Kurdish to Kurdish children."

Tell me yes or no. I am understanding that you support the Kurds but do you support PKK?

 

[Otonom Piyade]

Why should Kurds care about others when others do not care about Kurds?



Don't worry. The policy of dividing and ruling the Kurds will end soon.



Do you support persecution of Kurds by Turkish government?

During Turkey's war for independence, Turkish leaders, promised Kurds a Turkish-Kurdish federated state in return for their assistance in the war. After independence was achieved, however, they ignored the bargain they had made.

Since 1924 Turkey forbade Kurdish schools, organizations and publications. Even the words "Kurd" and "Kurdistan" were outlawed, making any written or spoken acknowledgement of their existence illegal.

It is illegal for parents to give children Kurdish names; they must select Turkish names or face punishment.

Between 1925 and 1939, 1.5 million Kurds, a third of the population, were deported and massacred.

In 1930 the Turkish Minister of Justice declared, I won't hide my feelings. The Turk is the only lord, the only master of this country. Those who are not of pure Turkish origin will have only one right in Turkey: the right to be servants and slaves.

Turkey deliberately and consistently underdeveloped Kurdish provinces. From 1968 to 1975, 10.7 billion lira were invested in East Anatolia and the Southeast, areas densely populated by Kurds. This represents 2.4 percent of national investment compared to 31.1 percent in Marmara, 20.8 percent in the Agean region and 16.4 percent in the Mediterranean area.

Turkey is not content to persecute Kurds within its borders. In 1980 the Turkish Embassy in Denmark ordered the Union of Workers from Turkey to discontinue a Kurdish language course organized by the Copenhagen Evening School. The course was aimed at incorporating Kurdish in the home language teaching program in Danish, Norwegian, Swedish and West-German schools. The Embassy Councillor asked, "Are you not Turkish citizens? You must not teach Kurdish to Kurdish children."

It's best Americans leave this particular region to regional powers who all agree on one thing only, keeping region in tact and free from further division. We know you're still keen as hell to continue your hegemony in ME but don't you think it's best US mind it's own business at the moment when you already have a handful with keeping your debt ridden economy in tact and trying to curb the economically and politically growing Chinese power in the east?

 

[kartal1]

@cabatli_53 he is still talking for the partition of Turkey.

 

[Bismarck]

It will start with Iraq but Syrian and Turkish regions would join. The Iraq referendum provides the momentum. Even Europeans were fighting earlier but ended up with EU.

As you can see in GB and in Spain they are as united as you think, and btw Catalonia wants part of France also.

Why should Kurds care about others when others do not care about Kurds?



Don't worry. The policy of dividing and ruling the Kurds will end soon.



Do you support persecution of Kurds by Turkish government?

During Turkey's war for independence, Turkish leaders, promised Kurds a Turkish-Kurdish federated state in return for their assistance in the war. After independence was achieved, however, they ignored the bargain they had made.

Since 1924 Turkey forbade Kurdish schools, organizations and publications. Even the words "Kurd" and "Kurdistan" were outlawed, making any written or spoken acknowledgement of their existence illegal.

It is illegal for parents to give children Kurdish names; they must select Turkish names or face punishment.

Between 1925 and 1939, 1.5 million Kurds, a third of the population, were deported and massacred.

In 1930 the Turkish Minister of Justice declared, I won't hide my feelings. The Turk is the only lord, the only master of this country. Those who are not of pure Turkish origin will have only one right in Turkey: the right to be servants and slaves.

Turkey deliberately and consistently underdeveloped Kurdish provinces. From 1968 to 1975, 10.7 billion lira were invested in East Anatolia and the Southeast, areas densely populated by Kurds. This represents 2.4 percent of national investment compared to 31.1 percent in Marmara, 20.8 percent in the Agean region and 16.4 percent in the Mediterranean area.

Turkey is not content to persecute Kurds within its borders. In 1980 the Turkish Embassy in Denmark ordered the Union of Workers from Turkey to discontinue a Kurdish language course organized by the Copenhagen Evening School. The course was aimed at incorporating Kurdish in the home language teaching program in Danish, Norwegian, Swedish and West-German schools. The Embassy Councillor asked, "Are you not Turkish citizens? You must not teach Kurdish to Kurdish children."

You get me wrong. Again, expect from the Kurds who wants a free Kurdistan and why? And of course every nation or ethic can be divided or is divided.