Israel Endorsed Kurdish Independence

[Khagan1923]

Israel outplayed themselves in this matter like morons. Netanyahu is a moron to think that supporting such things would lead to a stronger Israel. You try to do this to Turkey,Iran,Iraq and Syria and they will just turn around and do the same by supporting Israeli arabs to carve their own piece of Israel, mind I'm not talking about Gaza but Arabs who live in Israel. The Kurds stand no chance in Turkey and Iran and the only reason why they even have achieved something in Iraq and Syria lies in ISIS who was the main enemy for Iraq and the rebels/ISIS for Syria. What is Israel gonna do if Turkey should decide to bring in weapons with its Navy to Gaza? ATGMs, Manpads? Israel would lose dozen of soldiers every hour. These countries only need to close their borders and airspace to everyone trying to reach this dream of a country and lets see how long until the kurds start eating eachother. They would kill each other without a second thought.

Some people seem to think some countries will just take what is happening against them as a fact and not attack back. Looks like the west hasn't learned any lessons from WW1 and Cyprus. Nobody fucks with Turkey and doesn't gets it whole arm chopped off in the act.

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Who are you to come Turkish section and having a face to talk about shaping the borders/sovereign of Turkish Republic in acxordance to your littile brain without showing any logical way to achieve/support your wet dreams ?

Banned!

Can you also delete the trollls comments and wet fantasy maps please.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

ISIS didn't exist 10 years ago. It was created by the CIA et al to give the Kurds the legitimacy to carve out a piece of Iraq and Syria --and later Iran and Turkey if the conditions then allow-- in order to serve as a satellite state of the US and/or Israel and help them control the Middle East as they pleased.

Russia is currently betting on Assad being enough to counter this. They also think Turkey and Iran will pose a significant handicap for the US/Israeli designs. And finally, they think maybe, as a very remote possibility, they themselves will be able to use Kurdistan to pull some strings around the Middle East to get both Turkey and Iran in line with the Russian agenda. This line of thinking explains the Russian response to the KRG referendum.

Turkey had to cozy up with Barzani in the past for the same reason. But he chose the US/Israel. Why? I don't know for sure but there's only two possibilities: They either paid him more, or threatened him.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

A wise Türk from Bitlis (mother Kurd/ father Türk ) once said to me :
" Yakana Bit kapina Kürt yaklastirma"!

So this person wouldn't allow his own mother near his house? Is that what you're telling us?

Look. There are bad apples with every ethnicity. It's all about upbringing, education and income. Racism is dumb and has been scientifically debunked over and over.

 

[cabatli_53]

@Attila the Hun Warning issued for racism !
@Vord Warning issued for insulting the member !
@ATALAY Warning issued for racism !

Posts are deleted ! Have a good discussion !

 

[Pax Ottomana]

I'm sorry I'm an old member but I haven't posted in a long time so I'm not very familiar with forum rules. And they might've changed over the years. Are we not allowed to respond to a personal insult in kind? @cabatli_53

Yani hem irkcilik yapip halki acik acik ic savasa tesvik eden hem de bana hakaret eden adama hakaret etmeyecem de kime edecem?

 

[Adıvar]

Biji biji

https://twitter.com/x/status/913174769641639936

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Biji biji

https://twitter.com/x/status/913174769641639936

Lol fosik t.c bize komplo kuri vallah

 

[Pax Ottomana]

There is no alternative to living side by side with the Kurds. There are at least 15 million in Turkey alone and about that many in Syria, Iraq and Iran combined. We share the same geography. I'm sorry but that's just the reality of our region. We will do whatever is necessary to reduce risk to our borders. We will continue to fight terrorism. But if you're expecting Turkey to genocide millions of Kurds en masse, you're delusional.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Tillerson: US does not recognize KRG referendum

US does not recognize Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) unilateral independence referendum, Secretary of State Tillerson said Friday.

"The United States does not recognize the Kurdistan Regional Government's unilateral referendum held on Monday. The vote and the results lack legitimacy and we continue to support a united, federal, democratic and prosperous Iraq," Tillerson said.

"We remain concerned about the potential negative consequences of this unilateral step. Prior to the vote, we worked with both the KRG and the central government in Baghdad to pursue a more productive framework and to promote stability and prosperity for the people ‎of the Kurdistan region. These aspirations, ultimately, cannot be advanced through unilateral measures such as this referendum," the secretary added.

Tillerson also said that the fight against Daesh terrorist group, who seeks to exploit instability and discord, was not over, urging "Iraqi partners to remain focused on defeating Daesh."

The top U.S. diplomat also urged "calm and an end to vocal recriminations and threats of reciprocal actions."

The KRG held a controversial independence referendum Monday, which was criticized by most of the international community.

Monday's illegitimate referendum saw Iraqis in KRG-controlled areas — and in a handful of territories disputed between Irbil and Baghdad, including ethnically mixed Kirkuk and Mosul — vote on whether or not to declare independence from Iraq's central government.

Official preliminary results revealed that 93 percent of voters backed Kurdish independence.

Along with Iraq's central government, Turkey, the U.S., Eu, Iran, and the U.N. had spoken out against the illegitimate poll, warning it would distract from the ongoing fight against Daesh and further destabilize the region.

https://www.dailysabah.com/mideast/2017/09/29/us-does-not-recognize-krg-referendum-tillerson-says


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Well, thanks Rex! This pretty much settles/proves it that the US is behind Barzani's decision to push for the referendum. There's now no doubt about it.

 

[kartal1]

You can shut the voice on this forum but what can you do in the real world?

With your statements on this matter you are supporting a terrorist organization that is in the list of terrorist organizations of your government also (US). Dont you dare speak to him like that. Fvcking hypocrite. I dont care what you support or not. If you are daring to support the rats that are killing my soldiers not only your voice would be shut. I dont care human rights and I am not green peace. If you are so curious of what a Turk can do to you in real world I am telling you go to Turkey and say on public place some of the things that you are saying on the forum in a way that people can understand you and then I can assure you that your imaginations of terror would be completely changed and ISIS-PKK will be angels in front of angered Turk. If you can run faster than the bullet I am challenging you to go to Turkey and face the real world that you are talking about. Terrorist supporter.

 

[Bismarck]

You can shut the voice on this forum but what can you do in the real world?

His real life is unimportant here.

 

[MuhammedAli]

Only a Muslim could be so stupid and foolish ... get the pigs fat before sending them to slaughter ... enemy is fattening the Kurds before they are sent to slaughter on Israels behalf and get slaughtered ... useless people with no insight and no idea of what is happening around them. World is preparing to choke every bit of Islam out of them ... and they are are consorting with their own destroyers ... one would think after 400 years of THE GREAT GAME MUSLIMS WOULD Be WISER AND WELL PREPARED TO COUNTER IT. No they are fucking dumb asses like ever.

 

[TheBlackCoat]

Only a Muslim could be so stupid and foolish ... get the pigs fat before sending them to slaughter ... enemy is fattening the Kurds before they are sent to slaughter on Israels behalf and get slaughtered ... useless people with no insight and no idea of what is happening around them. World is preparing to choke every bit of Islam out of them ... and they are are consorting with their own destroyers ... one would think after 400 years of THE GREAT GAME MUSLIMS WOULD Be WISER AND WELL PREPARED TO COUNTER IT. No they are fucking dumb asses like ever.

What did Turkey do for Islam? You cannot use religious card when it suits you. Other nations also have their interests. Rise of Kurdish nation is imminent now.

 

[Bismarck]

What did Turkey do for Islam? You cannot use religious card when it suits you. Other nations also have their interests. Rise of Kurdish nation is imminent now.

For whom and on which way?